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On April 03 2013 10:39 prplhz wrote:
he doesn't have 3kp because that's fucking bullshit.
He already insta-killed Grack and Acro. Which means we know for a fact that he could still insta-kill Hapa (unless it was 2 shot only, which seems like a stretch because why would he have wasted his last bullet on Acro instead of Hapa if he is scum).
And he already proved that he can shotcheck someone and insta-kill someone in the same night. (He shot Acro at the start of night 2, and then shot Oats at the end. Oats confirmed that he got a message about it).
And of course there is factional KP.
So why do you not believe that he has 3 KP if he is scum?
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On April 03 2013 10:49 prplhz wrote:
why will you die and not sinani
i don't see this
Because we don't know that sinani has a power. If you are town, you can't know whether sinani will die or not.
Rayn has already proven that he has a role.
Honestly I'm tired of arguing the exact same thing over and over and over again, and I'm tired of thinking about this game.
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On April 03 2013 10:56 prplhz wrote:
yea okay if scum team isn't sinani/rayn then screw it.
On April 03 2013 10:59 prplhz wrote:
just rayn's claim and actions seem weird if he's scum.
These two things don't make ANY FUCKING SENSE TOGETHER. In the first quote, you obviously think rayn has to be scum. Then in the second, you don't think he is scum?
So which is it, do you think he is scum or do you not?
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Okay so you're giving a bunch of reasons why rayn isn't scum.
Do they outweigh the reasons why me+Cora+Hapa+S&B+marv aren't scum?
Because those are your only other choices.
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On April 03 2013 11:13 prplhz wrote:
i realize that in the very first line of my reasoning up there
the one where i say
"i don't know who else should be scum"
Yes, you said that.
But that doesn't show me that you're trying to figure it out.
Words are wind.
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We've already made all of these points before.
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Wait wait wait wait.
Hapa: paraphrase your hit message from night 1.
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On April 03 2013 12:34 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 11:25 Keirathi wrote:
Wait wait wait wait.
Hapa: paraphrase your hit message from night 1. Along the lines of... You were shot then healed.
Okay.
So yea, we follow my plan from earlier.
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EBWOP: and Core re-proposed :p
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Alright so I couldn't fall asleep last night because I couldn't quit running through this game in my head, and I came to a realization:
I honestly think we are in a 3 scum setup
I'm 99.99999% sure that all of our "confirmed townies" are actually town. I'm 99% sure that sinani is scum.
But what about rayn and prplhz?
I'm not going to lie, I could sit down and almost certainly write a solid case about why either of them could be scum. But, gods honest simple truth of the matter is that I have a town read on both of them. Rather large town reads, all truth be told. Because as much as I could nitpick at little things they've SAID, their ACTIONS all point to townie. If either of them are scum they're just playing the silliest scum game of all time. Everything they've done points towards town.
So what does that mean, Keir?
It means we have 2 options.
We can 99.9999% guarantee our chance to win by following my plan from earlier. Prplhz kills rayn, rayn shotchecks sinani. Then we lynch prplhz/sinani in order and win the game.
Second option, assuming I'm right about 3 player scum team, is prplhz and rayn both gun for sinani tonight. Either game over tonight, or we lynch sinani tomorrow and game over then. The obvious downside to this approach is that if I AM wrong about only 3 scum, then we probably lose.
It's up to you guys, really. But I figured I would throw it out there for people to think about, because this game is draining my sanity and I want to see it finished.
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Well, I agree in that the smart play should be option 1.
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But, that requires every single person in the game to commit to the plan and not back down from it. For two extra full days because someone isn't voting for instant majority.
If prplhz does kill rayn tonight, then we HAVE to lynch prplhz tomorrow because prplhz is the one with extra KP, and we won't be able to afford for scum to have 2KP again tomorrow night if prplhz is scum, and then lynch sinani on the last day. Which means another 5+ IRL days before this game ever ends.
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That doesn't work because of the same restriction that I told you about the other day but still can't elaborate on.
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On April 04 2013 01:35 marvellosity wrote:
Fine, then we lynch prplhz first, whatever
stop looking at the game if it's a problem, I'm not gambling the game away because you're too crazy to go do something else for a few days
But it's so hard! My mind keeps pulling me back here when I try to go do something else!
In all seriousness, I absolutely agree with you. I would play the "smart" way every single time.
Not even sure why I brought it up, really. Just because I think I'm right I guess. It just makes more sense to play to 4 scum and then be happy when the game ends at 3 than it does to play to 3 scum and lose afterwards.
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Yea how does town with a win-con of "Kill every mason regardless of their alignment" even make sense?
:o
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Fuck this game so fucking hard.
Basically town is almost guaranteed to lose now if you shoot.
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On April 04 2013 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 03:13 Keirathi wrote:
Fuck this game so fucking hard.
Basically town is almost guaranteed to lose now if you shoot. No it isn't.
Yes. It is.
Because you don't know what I know, but I can't say it because it does 100% guarantee that town loses.
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On April 04 2013 03:15 marvellosity wrote:
shut up already Kei
Fine.
I'm going to play terraria. I'll be back at deadline to see what happens.
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No, it's just us.
Remember me wanting to lynch s&b? Lol
Anyways voting sinani.
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On April 04 2013 06:49 marvellosity wrote:
Are you lovers with Corazon, Kei?
Oh, I misunderstood.
I thought you were asking S&B if he was lovers with Cora and I.
Yes, Cora and I are lovers.
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