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On April 03 2013 06:34 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 06:31 Hapahauli wrote:
No. We shouldn't have rayn shoot prplhz or vice versa or whatever the crap. We should arrange it so that Sinani gets shot. That way we don't waste a day, and in the mind-boggling event that Sinani flips town, we have 48 hours to work through things. We have no way to guarantee that sinani dies. He would *PROBABLY* die if prplhz targetted him, just because if he is scum, then the setup seems a bit weak with 2 scum goons. But we don't actually know that he has a power, and there haven't been any unaccounted for night actions (that I know of).
Not sure it does seem that weak with 2 goons, remember Acro's role wasn't just a 2 scum -> 2 townie swing, the time it takes to lynch those mafia we would have lynched allows nightkills too. It's actually 2 scum 1 townie dead night 2 exchanged for potentially 3 dead townies through NKs, and 2 dead townies through lynch :/
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But the fact is prplhz and sinani are scum. And we have no way of knowing what their powers are.
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On April 03 2013 06:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 06:34 Keirathi wrote:On April 03 2013 06:31 Hapahauli wrote:
No. We shouldn't have rayn shoot prplhz or vice versa or whatever the crap. We should arrange it so that Sinani gets shot. That way we don't waste a day, and in the mind-boggling event that Sinani flips town, we have 48 hours to work through things. We have no way to guarantee that sinani dies. He would *PROBABLY* die if prplhz targetted him, just because if he is scum, then the setup seems a bit weak with 2 scum goons. But we don't actually know that he has a power, and there haven't been any unaccounted for night actions (that I know of). Not sure it does seem that weak with 2 goons, remember Acro's role wasn't just a 2 scum -> 2 townie swing, the time it takes to lynch those mafia we would have lynched allows nightkills too. It's actually 2 scum 1 townie dead night 2 exchanged for potentially 3 dead townies through NKs, and 2 dead townies through lynch :/
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Kurumi didn't think through those implications when he gave the double lynch power and vote-rigger to separate people.
But I do see your point.
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Kei, just to confirm - it says explicitly in your role PM somewhere that Cora is a town mason right?
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On April 03 2013 06:40 Hapahauli wrote:
Kei, just to confirm - it says explicitly in your role PM somewhere that Cora is a town mason right?
Yes. 100%.
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Please edit that post out.
Keirathi, yours too. Remove the quote.
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If prplhz isn't lying about his role and gave a gun to sinani this/last night we have just lost the game after tonight i'm saying...
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On April 03 2013 06:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If prplhz isn't lying about his role and gave a gun to sinani this/last night we have just lost the game after tonight i'm saying...
Scum do not have 2KP. Where are you getting this from?
They've only shot one player the last two nights. Unless they've been withholding it for some reason, which is nonsensical.
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I'll draw up some scenarios in notepad later.
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On April 03 2013 06:44 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 06:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If prplhz isn't lying about his role and gave a gun to sinani this/last night we have just lost the game after tonight i'm saying... Scum do not have 2KP. Where are you getting this from? They've only shot one player the last two nights. Unless they've been withholding it for some reason, which is nonsensical.
So Palmar was not double stacked? Y U so sure about that? Or that prplhz didn't kill Palmar and is scum?
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There was no KP last night, doesn't seem like mafia have a tonne of KP lying around.
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On April 03 2013 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 06:44 Hapahauli wrote:On April 03 2013 06:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If prplhz isn't lying about his role and gave a gun to sinani this/last night we have just lost the game after tonight i'm saying... Scum do not have 2KP. Where are you getting this from? They've only shot one player the last two nights. Unless they've been withholding it for some reason, which is nonsensical. So Palmar was not double stacked? Y U so sure about that? Or that prplhz didn't kill Palmar and is scum?
Palmar wasn't double-stacked 'cause I got shot and saved N1.
It is no doubt possible that prplhz killed Palmar, hence the plans being speculated in-thread right now.
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On April 03 2013 06:48 marvellosity wrote:
There was no KP last night, doesn't seem like mafia have a tonne of KP lying around.
Unless sinani sent in both. You explained it earlier. Idk how it usually works, but is this not possible?
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On April 03 2013 06:49 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 03 2013 06:44 Hapahauli wrote:On April 03 2013 06:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If prplhz isn't lying about his role and gave a gun to sinani this/last night we have just lost the game after tonight i'm saying... Scum do not have 2KP. Where are you getting this from? They've only shot one player the last two nights. Unless they've been withholding it for some reason, which is nonsensical. So Palmar was not double stacked? Y U so sure about that? Or that prplhz didn't kill Palmar and is scum? Palmar wasn't double-stacked 'cause I got shot and saved N1. It is no doubt possible that prplhz killed Palmar, hence the plans being speculated in-thread right now.
So scum has 2 KP somehow then. Because i am not scum, this means prphz/sinani must be mafia.
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On April 03 2013 06:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 06:49 Hapahauli wrote:On April 03 2013 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 03 2013 06:44 Hapahauli wrote:On April 03 2013 06:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If prplhz isn't lying about his role and gave a gun to sinani this/last night we have just lost the game after tonight i'm saying... Scum do not have 2KP. Where are you getting this from? They've only shot one player the last two nights. Unless they've been withholding it for some reason, which is nonsensical. So Palmar was not double stacked? Y U so sure about that? Or that prplhz didn't kill Palmar and is scum? Palmar wasn't double-stacked 'cause I got shot and saved N1. It is no doubt possible that prplhz killed Palmar, hence the plans being speculated in-thread right now. So scum has 2 KP somehow then. Because i am not scum, this means prphz/sinani must be mafia.
I see your point, but I doubt it's 2 global KP. Might be a 1-shot vigi or something.
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Okay, rayn does have a point.
IF prplhz is scum, AND he's telling the truth about how his role works, BUT he lied about his target from last night and gave a gun to sinani instead of Smurf, then scum could possibly kill 3 people tonight.
But if they do, then that means we lynch prplhz tomorrow instead of sinani (so that prplhz doesn't get ANOTHER blue snipe shot off), because we know that sinani is in fact a vanilla scum.
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TL;DR:
Follow my plan. It is our only chance of winning.
rayn: you HAVE to pick one of sinani/prplhz and hope against all hope that one of them is an eavesdropper mason.
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On April 03 2013 06:08 prplhz wrote:
snb if you use your oneshot doc on someone who isn't hit, is it refunded?
no it doesn't
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EPT
