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On April 01 2013 06:35 sinani206 wrote:
I thought we always go by tl time? because I thought night ends at 0700.
Anyway, I don't see why you would give a confirmed scum a vig shot. Or even risk that happening. Not worth possibly killing him half a day earlier.
Full role claim. Go.
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On April 01 2013 05:35 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 01 2013 03:57 Keirathi wrote:On April 01 2013 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:I'm feeling a bit better about Rayn now that he's decided to talk more about his role. His shots make me want to yell at him though, but I'm not sure if I want to lynch him for it yet. You srsly think there is a possibility that i am scum and shot my teammate? To be fair, I think there is a *possibility* that you did. However, I don't find it *likely* that you did. But Acro was dead either way. If you are scum, you might as well shoot him and get town cred to ride to the easy win. The question really comes down to "Does scum rayn have the balls to pull it off?" I can tell you that scum!rayn would have the balls to do stuff like that. Don't you think it would be a bit OP for mafia to have an incredibly powerful vote-rigger (given that Palmar had the double lynch power) and a multi-shot anonymous vigi? lol yes, I think you would definitely have the balls for it too. And yes, the fact you shot Grack makes it likely you're town, given we had 2 KP from mafia night 1. Usually in a game this size, mafia might be given one KP but then additional roles like a scumvig. It seems unlikely that mafia would get 2 KP *and* a multi-shot vigi. In addition your explanation was more than I was hoping for, so that's good.
So, prplhz's role explains the kill on Palmar night one.
We don't actually know if scum have 2 KP or not. My mind is kind of hurting from thinking about this game, but update how you feel about this and prplhz please.
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On April 01 2013 06:42 prplhz wrote:
kei if you believe my role and you think i'm scum then explain my night actions
Shooting Palmar. That has obvious scum benefit. Of course, if he's not VT then you put a gun in his hand, but we can't even confirm that that is part of your role. Maybe you just kill anyone if they happen to have powers and the vig thing is just bullshit you're making up.
Smurf: Meh. You claim you used your power on him, but how do we know that you're not lying? Smurf is obviously scum and we're going to lynch him today, so you claiming you "checked" him and gave him a gun is safe because he'll never get to shoot to verify your story.
But you're right, it doesn't make much sense that you, as scum, wouldn't have used your power on one of the confirmed townies trying to kill them. Maybe you used it on Hapa and he's a VT?
Speculation, ofc.
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On April 01 2013 06:57 prplhz wrote:
and then i claimed and now i'm just hoping hapa isn't going to tell the thread that he suddenly has a gun?
FINGAS X'ED
On April 01 2013 06:50 Keirathi wrote:
Maybe you just kill anyone if they happen to have powers and the vig thing is just bullshit you're making up.
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Anyways, we're not lynching you today.
You should use your role on one of Oats or Sinani during the night. Anyone else is unacceptable (Unless Hapa is a VT and he tells you to use it on him.)
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On April 01 2013 07:01 strongandbig wrote:
So this implies that mafia only have one factional KP. In that case, they most likely have a vig. This vig is most likely prplhz. Using prplhz's power as claimed makes little to no sense on palmar - he didn't give any indication that he was a VT. It makes a ton of sense for scum.
Alternate possibility: scum KP is 2 until one member dies, so when acro died their KP went down to 1.
Prplhz, why did you use your power for a non-confirmed only-sort-of check on scum instead of to give town a gun? Marv and I have both claimed that we are vanilla townies, did you ask kurumi what would happen if our role claims are correct and you target us?
You're not a vanilla townie, are you?
I thought you were a 1-shot Medic?
And marv just claimed that he was a roleblocker.
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On April 01 2013 07:04 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 07:03 Keirathi wrote:On April 01 2013 07:01 strongandbig wrote:
So this implies that mafia only have one factional KP. In that case, they most likely have a vig. This vig is most likely prplhz. Using prplhz's power as claimed makes little to no sense on palmar - he didn't give any indication that he was a VT. It makes a ton of sense for scum.
Alternate possibility: scum KP is 2 until one member dies, so when acro died their KP went down to 1.
Prplhz, why did you use your power for a non-confirmed only-sort-of check on scum instead of to give town a gun? Marv and I have both claimed that we are vanilla townies, did you ask kurumi what would happen if our role claims are correct and you target us? You're not a vanilla townie, are you? I thought you were a 1-shot Medic? And marv just claimed that he was a roleblocker. I'm a vanilla townie but a one-shot roleblocker, much the same as s&b was with medic.
Oh god, that is so confusing.
Having a power implies NOT Vanilla.
Silly Kurumi! <3
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On April 01 2013 07:07 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 07:06 Keirathi wrote:On April 01 2013 07:04 marvellosity wrote:On April 01 2013 07:03 Keirathi wrote:On April 01 2013 07:01 strongandbig wrote:
So this implies that mafia only have one factional KP. In that case, they most likely have a vig. This vig is most likely prplhz. Using prplhz's power as claimed makes little to no sense on palmar - he didn't give any indication that he was a VT. It makes a ton of sense for scum.
Alternate possibility: scum KP is 2 until one member dies, so when acro died their KP went down to 1.
Prplhz, why did you use your power for a non-confirmed only-sort-of check on scum instead of to give town a gun? Marv and I have both claimed that we are vanilla townies, did you ask kurumi what would happen if our role claims are correct and you target us? You're not a vanilla townie, are you? I thought you were a 1-shot Medic? And marv just claimed that he was a roleblocker. I'm a vanilla townie but a one-shot roleblocker, much the same as s&b was with medic. Oh god, that is so confusing. Having a power implies NOT Vanilla. Silly Kurumi! <3 It also implies that prplhz is at least telling the truth about how his role functions, because it seems specifically designed for that role.
True. I wasn't aware that your role specifically called you a VT.
Anyways: Sinani, Oats ---- ROLECLAIM ASAP.
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Oh wait, Oats already claimed VT, right?
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On April 01 2013 07:11 prplhz wrote:
you taking notes kei?
Totes.
Also, even if you are scum, that doesn't mean your role can't be Santa 
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Anyways.
After Smurf flips scum, we'll (likely) be at 7 town, 2 scum. Assuming scum drop KP at 2 (or only had 1 to start with), we have more than enough lynches to lynch Oats -> Sinani -> prplhz.
That should be GG, barring something unforeseen.
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On April 01 2013 07:28 prplhz wrote:
sinani first
Why?
To you, it literally shouldn't matter a single bit.
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On April 01 2013 07:34 prplhz wrote:
because we have a check on him
Err what?
I guess I'm missing something?
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Addendum:
On March 31 2013 15:46 Oatsmaster wrote:Cause for once I dont have a blue role 
On April 01 2013 01:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Honestly a themed game.
And I get VT.
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On April 01 2013 08:01 prplhz wrote:
that's a dumb plan. i give the gun to sinani and if he's not dead tomorrow we lynch him.
Yes, this is a better plan.
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On April 01 2013 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look at it this way:
If prplhz is town he knows there are three scum in me/Oats/Smurf(almost confirmed)/sinani. Smurf hangs anyway today. If he guns sinani he either flips red, flips green or lives. He can kill sinani on N3. If he flips red good, if he flips green prplhz knows me and Oats are scum. Hell he can even kill me by gunning me the next night.
His logic in giving Smurf a gun makes no sense.
I dunno what his actual logic was, but he made the right choice in giving it to Smurf, assuming he actually is town, for the same reason that I'm advocating him "checking" sinani tonight even though we are going to lynch sinani tomorrow: we don't want scum to actually have a chance to use the gun if they are vanilla scum.
Lets say he did give sinani a gun last night and sinani doesn't die. He gives him another gun tomprrow night to kill him, but it's a night action that resolves at the end of the phase *NOT* an instant vig. So sinani still has the gun from the first night, and can use it to shoot someone.
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I honestly have no idea. But I don't think it matters, either.
You check prplhz tonight. Prplhz gives a gun to sinani.
We have a mislynch to give anyways. Lynch Sinani -> Oatsmaster -> prplhz and we win.
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On April 01 2013 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 08:50 prplhz wrote:
also i'm sure you can find something more scummy about killing a townie blue palmar n1 than "why didn't you try to repeat it n2" But the point is if sinani flipped blue by now you would know who the rest of the scumteam is!!
And if he doesn't flip blue, then (potentially) scum has an extra KP.
That would be terrible.
Playing it safe was the right move, like I said earlier.
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