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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 03:42 GMT
#1681
Okay, well are you going to bother to scum-hunt and provide us with reads today?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 03:43 GMT
#1682
What is it exactly that you want from me that will get you to put :effort: into the game?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 03:45 GMT
#1684
I mean effort this cycle marv. You said you're not going to fight the lynch. Okay. So are you going to hunt mafia today?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 03:51 GMT
#1688
On March 29 2013 12:49 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 29 2013 12:45 Hapahauli wrote:
I mean effort this cycle marv. You said you're not going to fight the lynch. Okay. So are you going to hunt mafia today?


Yes, of course I will try to find the two I think should be lynched. I really need to look again at Smurf and maybe talk to him at some point. Probably sinani and s&b are my top 2 right now.


Alrighty, well ball's in your court then. Look forward to seeing what you come up with.

Have a goodnight, and Happy Birthday :3
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 03:53 GMT
#1690
On March 29 2013 12:51 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 29 2013 12:48 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, this is a silly argument. So moving on:

On March 29 2013 12:21 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe. prplhz should explain his vote, though. It's enough for me to fully rescind my townread on him, especially given he's basically defended s&b and Smurf. The problem with a prplhz-mafia idea is that it would mean a Smurf-mafia hard-defended him on meta, which seems really unlikely.

I'm not even particularly sure Smurf is mafia anymore.

Why do you not think Smurf is mafia anymore?

Like I mentioned earlier, you had him town as you top (or one of your top) scumreads like 3-4 times during the first day, but just in passing comments. No actual comments on him until the middle of night 1.


Palmar flipped town and for some reason didn't think Smurf was mafia. And he seems genuinely angry at stages.

The sticking point is how he pushed Nisani, and also the fact that yamato is pretty known for *not* going after lurkers, in fact quite the opposite.


Last word - isn't Yamato like always angry? He was pretty rage-y in British Mini I as scum.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 03:55 GMT
#1692
Last-last word:

On March 28 2013 07:09 Palmar wrote:
marv, reyn, sinani, prplhz, smurf and maaaybe strongandbig

3-4 scum in list.


Palmar very clearly thought Yamato was scum. Not sure where you're getting that from.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 06:13 GMT
#1697
This activity is riveting.

Honestly I'd like someone who's not all-but-confirmed town to lead discussion.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 15:19 GMT
#1726
Prplhz. Why are you going after the claimed mason?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 15:21 GMT
#1728
Like do you doubt his claim? Do you think he's suspicious? Because his claim (combined with Kei's general townieness) makes this whole line of questioning worthless.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 15:23 GMT
#1730
On March 30 2013 00:22 prplhz wrote:
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On March 30 2013 00:21 Hapahauli wrote:
Like do you doubt his claim? Do you think he's suspicious? Because his claim (combined with Kei's general townieness) makes this whole line of questioning worthless.

I doubt his alignment. Yes I think he's suspicious. I don't know about Keirathi's general townieness, didn't they claim because he was about to get lynched yesterday?


Yah. And did you read anything from Kei since then?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 15:36 GMT
#1734
On March 30 2013 00:26 prplhz wrote:
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On March 30 2013 00:23 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 30 2013 00:22 prplhz wrote:
On March 30 2013 00:21 Hapahauli wrote:
Like do you doubt his claim? Do you think he's suspicious? Because his claim (combined with Kei's general townieness) makes this whole line of questioning worthless.

I doubt his alignment. Yes I think he's suspicious. I don't know about Keirathi's general townieness, didn't they claim because he was about to get lynched yesterday?


Yah. And did you read anything from Kei since then?

Nothing that made me think he's obviously town. What do you think of that post I don't like?


That he's a mason?

I have a strong enough town-read on Kei that I have no reason to doubt Cora right now. And I think Cora's play hasn't been individually scummy enough to dream up an insane conspiracy theory.




On March 30 2013 00:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hapa do you agree with what I said about lynching marv earlier?

Why/why not.

Up for an SnB lynch?


SnB is on the back of my mind. My general annoyance with marv's change in playstyle (while probably irrational) takes forefront for now.

But anyway, I might as well bring this up -
On March 29 2013 07:01 strongandbig wrote:
hapa did you take a hit?


This is a weird quote. I had assumed that scum had 1KP. That's normal in a 16-player game. I find it strange that SnB asked that I got shot after Palmar had flipped. Not only that, but he assumed that it was possible for me to get hit and get notified about it.

1) SnB actually believed that there are 2 scum KP and asked an innocent question. Given his broader assumptions, I find this unlikely
2) SnB is scum and knew I got hit.
3) SnB is some form of medic and saved me
4) SnB is a vig and shot palmar (unlikely, since he wasn't really suspicious of palmar on Day 1).

As far as "OMG HAPA U OUT BLUESSSSS"... no I'm not. If he's not scum, any sane mafia player would have picked up on this.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 15:47 GMT
#1735
And it's stuff like the above (SnB quote) that I would expect town Marv to jump on, especially since he's suspicious of SNB.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 15:54 GMT
#1737
On March 30 2013 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
I saw that, thought it was really scummy, didnt bring it up cause it was so scummy.

Think for a bit, does this change in playstyle relay information about marv's alignment? Or are you just mad that he is fucking useless.


But see that is exactly how you read marv. Town marv is generally aggressive and absurdly pro-town.
He'll pepper everyone with questions, call everyone terrible, and will lead the town for better or for worse (almost always the former).
Scum-marv is much more passive, doesn't push his cases strongly, and "goes with the flow."

As far as what he's doing now, it falls in the category of scum-marv. I'm willing to keep an open mind to it and see if the new meta he's trying to establish is genuine, but I have 36 hours to reach a conclusion about that.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 15:55 GMT
#1738
On March 30 2013 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
I saw that, thought it was really scummy, didnt bring it up cause it was so scummy.

Think for a bit, does this change in playstyle relay information about marv's alignment? Or are you just mad that he is fucking useless.



And... what the fuck?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 16:08 GMT
#1743
On March 30 2013 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On March 30 2013 00:54 Hapahauli wrote:
But see that is exactly how you read marv. Town marv is generally aggressive and absurdly pro-town.
He'll pepper everyone with questions, call everyone terrible, and will lead the town for better or for worse (almost always the former).
Scum-marv is much more passive, doesn't push his cases strongly, and "goes with the flow."

Explain the scum meta part please
Town games:

In MTG AFAIK, he was useless.

In Chrono as far as my memory holds out, he was useless.

Scum games:
Trolled themed, didnt stop my mislynch, generally active and it took a vig shot to kill him.

In Hero, again really active, abrasive, fuckton of useless 1 liners, survived to the end.

I didnt read any of his other scum games, you mind telling me what this meta read comes from?



Mtg was a hydra game. Bad to draw conclusions. And he was far from useless in chrono and got killed first by scum. As far as those scum games go, there are variations in activity but the fundamental read is the same.

As far as SnB goes, that comment isn't necessarily scummy. It does strongly suggest he has extra info, but that's it.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 16:11 GMT
#1745
As for SnB's claim, I have my own thoughts on it but I want to hear what other players (NOT Kei cause u so townie) think of it
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 16:15 GMT
#1749
...and very strong feelings in one way I might add. Correctly state my opinion and rationale and you too could earn townie points.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 16:16 GMT
#1750
On March 30 2013 01:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 01:08 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 30 2013 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 30 2013 00:54 Hapahauli wrote:
But see that is exactly how you read marv. Town marv is generally aggressive and absurdly pro-town.
He'll pepper everyone with questions, call everyone terrible, and will lead the town for better or for worse (almost always the former).
Scum-marv is much more passive, doesn't push his cases strongly, and "goes with the flow."

Explain the scum meta part please
Town games:

In MTG AFAIK, he was useless.

In Chrono as far as my memory holds out, he was useless.

Scum games:
Trolled themed, didnt stop my mislynch, generally active and it took a vig shot to kill him.

In Hero, again really active, abrasive, fuckton of useless 1 liners, survived to the end.

I didnt read any of his other scum games, you mind telling me what this meta read comes from?



That'll take a while. On phone right now, but I'll get back to ya.

Mtg was a hydra game. Bad to draw conclusions. And he was far from useless in chrono and got killed first by scum. As far as those scum games go, there are variations in activity but the fundamental read is the same.

As far as SnB goes, that comment isn't necessarily scummy. It does strongly suggest he has extra info, but that's it.


What.

Tell me more about how scum marv is passive and how he is passive in this game?


Tell me more considering marv claims that if he is suspected day 1(he didnt claim that here though) he is never scum and what that means.

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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 16:17 GMT
#1752
Failpost. On phone. Will get back to ya about Marv, cause it'll take a while
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 29 2013 16:18 GMT
#1753
On March 30 2013 01:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 01:15 Hapahauli wrote:
...and very strong feelings in one way I might add. Correctly state my opinion and rationale and you too could earn townie points.


Can they be exchanged with GreyMist points? If not, I dont want them


I am a well connected man.
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