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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 02 2013 01:20 GMT
#2541
On April 02 2013 10:09 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 28 2013 00:24 cDgCorazon wrote:
Bleh all I know is that this lynch is not going to come easy. Too many scum candidates and too little time.

I do think Palmar's reasoning for why Grack's shot does not make him scum is valid. It really does not make sense to tie yourself to voting for a person and tunneling them, then go on to shoot them. Doesn't make sense.

Acro is a bit of a harder read. I really cannot tell what he is playing right now, so I won't vote for him on D1. Too much confusion to risk a vote there. I'm worried that Marv is his top scum read, yet he only gave superficial reasons as to why Marv is scum. Marv's defense seems in line with him trying to play a better game, plus his stupid mini-tunnel of me feels way too much like Personality for me to be suspicious now.

Smurf still needs to commit himself to actually scum hunting and not bouncing around multiple targets. Right now he's looking most likely to get my vote.

Prp, now that Grack is dead, can you stop beating around the bush and give us actual reasons as to why Acro could be scum? A vote for anything would be nice too.

Interesting. Do you somehow know mafia shot Grack? Because that's how the bolded part reads to me.


I'm particularly having problems with this quote, although there's a bunch of other stuff that's making me queasy.

The state of things before this is, presuming rayn is town:

1) rayn has a townread on Cora
2) rayn shot Grack

Therefore how does this quote even make sense? It can't possibly be trapping because rayn knows 100% that Grack was town-killed. So Cora can't possibly know it was a mafia-shot, because it wasn't. There's literally no way.

This quote makes sense in other scenarios:

1) rayn doesn't know who shot Grack, and is suspicious of Cora for thinking what he apparently thought. Obviously we can count this one out
2) rayn is mafia, and he's either worried or shovelling suspicion. This makes much more sense than the original premise of a town-rayn who shot Grack asking a townread how he knows that Grack was scum-shot.

It's just another way of saying "why do you seem to be so sure mafia shot Grack?".
And me having a town-read on Cora does not mean i won't question him about questionable stuff. It's not that i can't be wrong on my read.
table for two on a tv tray
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 02 2013 01:27 GMT
#2542
That's the entire point.

How could Cora in any way have been sure that the shot was a mafia shot if you were the one that made the shot and you knew you were town? I mean, lets even assume that Cora was scum when you asked it, he would know that one of his teammates didn't make the shot.

Marv is right, the question makes no sense in context of your role, assuming you are town.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 02 2013 01:30 GMT
#2543
The about turn on Grack also feels super-artificial to me.

He's town!
He's a bad lynch!
He isn't scum!
Palmar is going after the wrong people!

Oh... he's actually scum, because I'm "not satisfied with his answers anymore" (???), despite the fact I have at least 3 other scumreads (OO, Oats, Smurf, Nisani), but I need to be able to justify shooting him later.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 02 2013 01:30 GMT
#2544
On April 02 2013 10:27 Keirathi wrote:
That's the entire point.

How could Cora in any way have been sure that the shot was a mafia shot if you were the one that made the shot and you knew you were town? I mean, lets even assume that Cora was scum when you asked it, he would know that one of his teammates didn't make the shot.

Marv is right, the question makes no sense in context of your role, assuming you are town.

The point was to find out if Cora was trying to make people think mafia shot Grack. That could be beneficial if he was mafia because if a town vigi claims the shot later on mafia could have pushed a lynch on the vigi for "fakeclaiming". This is assuming most of the town thought the shot was mafia.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 02 2013 01:30 GMT
#2545
poor rayn
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 02 2013 01:31 GMT
#2546
On April 02 2013 10:30 prplhz wrote:
poor rayn


for once in your life, try commenting on what's being talked about?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 02 2013 01:32 GMT
#2547
On April 02 2013 10:30 marvellosity wrote:
The about turn on Grack also feels super-artificial to me.

He's town!
He's a bad lynch!
He isn't scum!
Palmar is going after the wrong people!

Oh... he's actually scum, because I'm "not satisfied with his answers anymore" (???), despite the fact I have at least 3 other scumreads (OO, Oats, Smurf, Nisani), but I need to be able to justify shooting him later.

Look at the Mason Qt. I even fucking asked Acro & Hapa how sure they were that Grack was mafia. They were not sure but were leaning on him being scum at that time. That made me change my mind on him.
table for two on a tv tray
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 02 2013 01:35 GMT
#2548
i don't really know what's going on
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 02 2013 01:36 GMT
#2549
i can comment tomorrow
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
April 02 2013 02:50 GMT
#2550
K i still think prpl is scum, and these last few pages convince me that Oats is too. Who else could it be? He's really been scumming up the thread. Also, rayn's claim seems really solid to me now.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 02 2013 03:41 GMT
#2551
Sinani. You are confirmed mafia. Thoughts?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
April 02 2013 04:08 GMT
#2552
On April 02 2013 12:41 strongandbig wrote:
Sinani. You are confirmed mafia. Thoughts?


Thoughts: nope
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 02 2013 12:42 GMT
#2553
Is Marv scum then?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 02 2013 13:31 GMT
#2554
Kk
I got notification of being shot at 9.12 TL time.

So therefore Kurumi just caused a whole lotta nonsense;. Thanks buddy <3
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 02 2013 13:52 GMT
#2555
Well that changes things. It means rayn is telling the truth about his role (or rayn and Oats are mafia together, less likely). Kinda a nuts role. Although I guess nothing is nuts compared to making a double mafia lynch into a double town lynch.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 02 2013 14:01 GMT
#2556
On April 02 2013 11:50 sinani206 wrote:
K i still think prpl is scum, and these last few pages convince me that Oats is too. Who else could it be? He's really been scumming up the thread. Also, rayn's claim seems really solid to me now.



lulz
No gg, No skill.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 02 2013 14:02 GMT
#2557
how did you survive getting shot
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 02 2013 14:03 GMT
#2558
On April 02 2013 23:02 prplhz wrote:
how did you survive getting shot


Please read the thread, sweetie.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 02 2013 14:04 GMT
#2559
On April 02 2013 23:02 prplhz wrote:
how did you survive getting shot


Dude.

I die if im in a mason circle thing. Which im not.

So therefore, SUCKS FOR YOU(not really)
No gg, No skill.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 02 2013 14:04 GMT
#2560
i forgot, kindly refresh my memory
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