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I need to re-look at reyn/prplhz/OO I guess, but they're all getting more useful as the game goes on, and not less useful, so I don't know where that will take me. Anyway marv, I'm interested to hear you follow up on this before the deadline. Also, why isn't Oats on that list? I view OO more townie than him right now. | ||
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On March 29 2013 02:25 marvellosity wrote: It's not going to happen, like I mentioned yesterday I have a chess match to complete this evening so the time I'd usually have is munched away. I've had Oats as fairly strongly town all game. In addition, and this is probably a terrible terrible reason, but Palmar said he was very unlikely to be mafia, and if Palmar is town I trust that judgement, and if he's mafia I don't think he'd say such a thing about his scumbuddy. Ange777 in Rockband. | ||
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On March 29 2013 02:29 marvellosity wrote: Do your research, Ange went from null to somewhat scummy. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=60#1195 I played in that game ya know. | ||
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OO has been putting more effort than I'd expect from the scum-version of him. Also his exchange with me towards the end of the lynch deadline felt very townie: On March 28 2013 06:51 ObviousOne wrote: Then you can have your beef and eat it, too. Regarding Marv He feels better. I liked his reads and observations overall. Nothing seems forced, and he brought up a really good point about SnB (Chrono Trigger Mafia) that I hadn't thought of. I'm not convinced he's town namely because of his relative passivity. He seems to have an excuse for it though, so w/e. Keep an eye on him, but definitely not a lynch candidate for tomorrow. @ Yamato We'll likely be a man down by the time you get back to making your cases. Give us your scum suspects and the "cliff-notes" version of your reads. Given your air of confidence, this will probably take you all of 5-10 minutes. | ||
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On March 29 2013 03:28 Keirathi wrote: I was going to save this for deadline, but I'm starting to have some doubts now too, so talk about him with me now. My biggest problem with marv is that he ostensibly had Smurf in his top scum reads for the entirety of day 1 (well, since page 18?ish). But never did anything to push him. At all. He put much more effort into pushing Nisani, but went so far as saying that the lynch should be between Smurf and Nisani (which was before I was #1 guaranteed mafia out of nowhere). But still, he did nothing at all to push Smurf, and only focused on Nisani. Well for the record, marv is null, and mayyyyybe slightly-town to me. The passivity really gets to me, but otherwise his play has been aiiiiight. No one really pushed Smurf yesterday. I mean its certainly points against marv, but that's not a compelling reason to lynch him. Thing with marv right now is that there are three people I want to see dead far before him (Yamato, SnB, Sinani), and I've been pleased by marv's contributions to each of their cases. And the best way to figure out if marv is scum or not is to see some of those guys flip. | ||
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Palmar's a bit of a wild-card for me right now. He did promise to post some reads though, so I wnat to take a look at those before I make a judgement call on him. | ||
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On March 29 2013 03:39 Keirathi wrote: The bolded is irrelevant. We're not talking about everyone, we're talking about marv. He said multiple times that Smurf was one of his top scum read and never pushed to get him lynched, even in the slightest. Does that jive with what you know about how marv plays? Hence why I'm not convinced he's town. It's more his recent posting that gives me townie vibes. Anyway as I said, I need to see some more flips before I could commit to lynching him. | ||
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On March 29 2013 03:38 InsertSmurfHere wrote: Still don't like Keir/Cora, but whatever, Cora tunnels me all fucking day every fucking game, so I'll ignore them for the time being. It's lylo-type stuff anyway, with their claim and all. Do you think they're scum or not? You've been ranting about how they're fake-claiming mason for some time now. "Whatever I guess I'll ignore them for now" is facepalm-worthy. Acro smells like mafia. You can say his play is different from Personality, but his read on me is simply an echo of things people have said before at an opportune time to throw all kinds of suspicion on me in the midst of you calling for my head tomorrow. I want to look more into the Nisani/Acro ordeal and actually figure out what was going on there, because his town flip makes me more inclined to think Acro might actually be mafia who OMGUS'd a townie. Captian-meta is ignoring Acro's scum-meta and pointing out objectively scummy things in his filter. That's what I was ranting to you two nights ago about prplhz. You guys are talking a lot about SNB, and it is true that he is far less townish than I read him at a similar point in time during personality. I've never experienced scum SNB, but I'll take my look at some of those games out of curiosity when I have time later, and make my own decision. Doesn't say much, but w/e, do what you need to do. I am also taking an interest in rayn, because I'm not sure where his reads are at right now, and I feel like he's in a group of players who really didn't do a whole lot day 1 but push a single read and then consolidate with town in the end. He pushed OO quite a bit, did he not? Dandel looked better to me earlier, but his general disinterest in town's affairs and his lackadaisical mafia read of me concerns me. At first it felt like he was just OMGUSing me out of surprise, but he's stuck with it and not done much else, which is quite bad. Under no pressure, he fails to even engage in the thread beyond one-liners and calling me/snb scum, so the possibility exists that he is just lurky mafia riding off the back of everyone calling him likely-town in response to my case on him. "Possibly mafia" isn't a very satisfying opinion about Dandel. So presumably these are all your suspicions in the thread. Do you have a town-read on everyone else then? | ||
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Yes, I'm going to ignore them. I'm suspicious of them, but do you really want me going around tomorrow making cases on Corazon, the claimed mason? Waste of time, even if I am right. No one is going to listen to me. "No one is going to listen to me therefore I wont' bother making a case" is the last thing I'd ever expect to hear from town-Yamato. Pushing cases against-all-odds is kinda your thing. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:04 InsertSmurfHere wrote: Why would I do that? The lynch is over 2 days away. Plenty of time to make sure you guys don't act like idiots and lynch me. If I'm a vigi, you only have 3 hours to live. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:08 InsertSmurfHere wrote: Why I found Keir scummy at the time. Attack me over something I'm right about, and have no other reason to call me mafia. So you think he's scummy for attacking you? That's it? Surely you have more than that. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256¤tpage=71#1409 On March 29 2013 04:23 Keirathi wrote: Damnit. ?? | ||
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