On March 21 2013 01:59 zarepath wrote:
I think that we are better served finding scum today than lynching someone who claimed 3rd party.

We'll always know who the 3rd party player is, but if we refuse to look for scum today we lose a lot of ground.

Fuckn bingo.

Ace knows better than this

Mocsta

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March 20 2013 17:00 GMT

#1681

anyways... layabouts mention of the mirror

is that the first instance in the thread?

Mocsta

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March 20 2013 17:06 GMT

#1687

On March 21 2013 02:02 Ace wrote:
We aren't going to stop scumhunting: that would be dumb..

Well you must be the champion of dumb then

When I ask your opinion of others, you say only VE for consideration.

So u want to maintain the vote on VE watevz... but lead the way with the scum hunting Mr. Ace.

Mocsta

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March 20 2013 17:13 GMT

#1695

On March 21 2013 02:11 Ace wrote:
zarepath, if VE is some kind of 3rd party Vet with more than 1 shot powers he can only die by lynch. I'm pretty sure the Town has some kind of night KP - we find a Scum today and vigi him. Both problems solved.

I can work with that supposition.

Mocsta

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March 20 2013 17:33 GMT

#1707

What woudl be funny is if

a town nightmare masoend VE as "the mirror"

Mocsta

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March 20 2013 17:34 GMT

#1708

On March 21 2013 02:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because it makes sense to accept to become a part of this third party entity and then bring it to the thread. LOL
##Unvote
##Vote: VisceraEyes

Thanks guys - I was worried that reading and thinking about this game while at work tonight was gonna get me fired. Now I don't have to! ^^

GL town.

*Facepalm*

like wtf... this is seriously against win-con if real reason.

Mocsta

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March 20 2013 17:44 GMT

#1718

I dont see how you outed the mirror VE.

i still dunno who the head of the "mirror" is.

Mocsta

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March 20 2013 17:59 GMT

#1737

On March 21 2013 02:58 Wade Fell wrote:
Anyone who's not voting VE needs to make a good case why we aren't just lynching the claimed scum. "Oh he might not have kp" and "he's playing against his wincon" (which is probably true regardless of his alignment) are not good reasons.

Show it to me. i dont recall

Mocsta

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March 20 2013 18:00 GMT

#1740

how is that claimed scum.

if anything... personality2.. town was pissed they lynched 3rd party day 1.. why are we ecstatic now.

need to find scum

Mocsta

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March 20 2013 18:01 GMT

#1743

On March 21 2013 03:00 Wade Fell wrote:
Am I in the twilight zone here? Didn't VE claim scum by posting those logs? >.>

wtf dude

i hope this doesnt become a podcast topic

scum=mafia
3rd party != scum

3rd party = ANTI-TOWN = scum

Mocsta

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March 20 2013 18:03 GMT

#1747

Mr. BH

To more pressing matters.. please address the below

On March 20 2013 18:19 Mocsta wrote:
Now that I read through BH log with go in clarity

I have no idea how he gets a town read.

Gk never provides his own thoughts, instead just agrees with BH.

BH also in his first posts says he wants to avoid a gk mislynch. So if gk is scum, he has no reason to feel pressured or scared from the start of the qt.

BH here is some wifom
Maybe u weren't killed because scum happy u have a town read on gk

@BH
Can u walk me through specifically what in that mason log gives u a town read. To me gk never gives a hard stance on anything and isn't helping u scum hunt.

Reminds me of my PMs with promethelax in personality2 actually.

Mocsta

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March 20 2013 18:04 GMT

#1749

On March 21 2013 03:03 Wade Fell wrote:
So I need to do a reread but 90% likely I'll be making a case on either vivax testsubj or wiggles. Probably vivax since testsubj doesn't really seem to be playing any more. lynching WoS or TPS is out of the question at this point and tbh if WoS's claim is true he's gonna get shot anyways along with TPS fairly quickly

WTF man.. is this wackytabacky hour with VE or something?

If testsubject isnt playing anymore.. why WONT you lynch him? seriously

Mocsta

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March 20 2013 18:05 GMT

#1750

On March 21 2013 03:04 Wade Fell wrote:
3P is scum

I don't know where you guys learned to play mafia but there's like no reason not to lynch 3P. We should still make cases and hunt scum but what possible motivation would we have for not lynching a scum player, even if he's 3P?

Wrong but wahtevers, not relevant

3p dont win with scum.. hence are not aligned with scum

3P and scum are both anti-town..

nothing more, nothing less

moving on now

Mocsta

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March 20 2013 23:59 GMT

#1883

On March 21 2013 08:56 glurio wrote:
Ok i'll go with my gut feel and vote for Mocsta.

I thought about the VE 3rd party situation and i can't convince myself he's scum.
In my eyes most likely "the Mirror" is a scum mason and his line (3rd party join my cult and i'll get stronger) is just some well thought out scam to confuse town.
No clue why he accepted the claim, that is the part that does not make sense,

His vet claim seems legit, since (setup speculation) scum has most likely 2 KP with this many players and no one else claimed getting hit. (or saved, or jailed, or blocked)

Since lynch time is really terrible for europeans (4 AM i think), i'll vote for mocsta and go to sleep.

##Vote: Mocsta

Go on. lets hear some legitimate reasons for my vote Glurio

All your points raised before, you already excused as I was busy.

So enlighten me.

Mocsta

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March 21 2013 00:21 GMT

#1904

Why are we letting Glurio come in and throw around useless votes, that he himself provided reasons for ineligibility?

Mocsta

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March 21 2013 01:25 GMT

#1944

motherfuckers.. i asked two or three times now.

why are you letting glurio throw away a useless vote.. where he even provides a defense for the points he raised?

so many things happeend this cycle.. and he fuckn throws it on me.. who was never under any serious consideration?

like wtf...thats completely different justification to vivax chasing coag.

Mocsta

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March 21 2013 01:42 GMT

#1954

On March 21 2013 10:40 layabout wrote:
In LX i was more sure of my reads since people were posting too much, this game is a messy headache in a bag being beaten with a stick.

I agree.. LX mighta been spammy.. but there was leadership

This game doesnt have any leadership (yet)

Mocsta

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March 21 2013 01:46 GMT

#1957

Everyone Stop fuckn ignoring me

+ Show Spoiler [Glurio Mocsta context] +

On March 21 2013 08:14 glurio wrote:

Show nested quote +

What can i say i'm legit busy right now. I'm moving, and work in my new appartment 12h a day. After that i'm really tired so all i can do is read everything and vote accordingly. Yesterday i took the time to write a case on someone looking very scummy, no one even commented on it so i suspected no one read it. That pissed me off a bit and instead of pushing my case further i went to bed.
Tomorrow the work in the new appartment should be finished so by D3 i should have much more time to spend on the game.

Right now i find mocsta to be scummy. Mostly out of meta reasons though. He really doesn't seem like the kind of guy who wouldn't have finished reading the thread after replacing in. He usually is one of the most active and loud posters in the games, but here he didn't even bother to read everything so far? In most games it seems he's one of the players who spend the most time in the game, reading filters, posting stuff etc.
But then again he said he is really busy with his life which i suppose can be true.

I haven't made up my mind in the whole VE 3rd party situation. But before all that came up i didn't really want to lynch VE or WF tonight. Two claimed blues after all.

On March 21 2013 08:59 Mocsta wrote:
Go on. lets hear some legitimate reasons for my vote Glurio

All your points raised before, you already excused as I was busy.

So enlighten me.

On March 21 2013 09:21 Mocsta wrote:
Why are we letting Glurio come in and throw around useless votes, that he himself provided reasons for ineligibility?

On March 21 2013 10:25 Mocsta wrote:
motherfuckers.. i asked two or three times now.

why are you letting glurio throw away a useless vote.. where he even provides a defense for the points he raised?

so many things happeend this cycle.. and he fuckn throws it on me.. who was never under any serious consideration?

like wtf...thats completely different justification to vivax chasing coag.

Mocsta

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March 21 2013 01:59 GMT

#1970

On March 21 2013 10:53 DarthPunk wrote:
What does everyone think about a coag lynch?

Im not against it.

when he said he had a town read on WoS yesterdya, i queried him, because I wasnt sure if founded upon knowledge not known to town... or a good read.

IIRC he coudltn substantiate the read.

I can support the vote.

With VE.. i was against voting him for the 3P as of last night.. i still cant get past that he would do something like this that has basically polarised and derailed the thread for a good 10hrs now.. thats essentially worthy of a policy lynch in my opinion.

Mocsta

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March 21 2013 02:08 GMT

#1975

WoS.. im still catching up on the thread, so am unfamiliar with why wiggles could be scum..

can you please provide some links to posts, i will prioritise reading them now. (im not even sure who has built cases on him, other than I think you?)