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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 14:31 GMT
#1547
If WoS is blue he needs to claim properly and stop matyring himself. Like claiming and not getting lynched is good play here. Let's just play correctly and avoid a mislynch with enough time to re-evaluate afterwards.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 14:33 GMT
#1549
On March 20 2013 23:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 23:28 Vivax wrote:
WoS I looked for crumbs in N1 and couldn't find anything. Are you a DT, a watcher, an organ? What were your actions? You claimed so there's no point in holding secrets now.

Awww you actually looked. Yay someone listened to me!
Here's one.
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 14:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Goodie.
I'm always interested to hear what people think about me and I'm particularly interested in TPS.

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 12:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 20 2013 10:11 ThePeashooter wrote:
On March 20 2013 09:19 Vivax wrote:
Well I read it right now but frankly I developed the feeling he is town, I find others way scummier than him and WoS is a newbie so I understand him being defensive, dunno why he rides so much on not knowing how to metaread though.
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 20 2013 04:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 04:52 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 20 2013 04:51 zarepath wrote:
VE, what is the name of your role? You never said, you just claimed Vet.


What's the purpose of this question? Don't you believe the claim?

Zare is scum rolecop imo


It's a guy who says these things to a guy who asks questions to a claimed veteran.

Kita don't you feel my Zarepath, GK and cosmicomics cases are good? I feel they are the strongest ones and I will likely not let go of those reads. I still have 2 wildcards currently occupied by Layabout and BH but TPS and glurio would fit in there too.

I think you might be a bit biased in your assessment of your cases. I find Kita's case to be exceptionally strong. You have to keep in mind what the goals are behind a post. What WoS is doing is a typical example of inexperienced scum and Kita illustrated it very well. He wants to be non confrontational and but also doesn't do anything towards town goals. It's that subconscious fear that every mafia player has to get over when the get a red role. You know you are scum, and you feel like everything you see is going to get scrutinized, but you can't say anything and you can't form your own cases because everyone else is town so any case you make you feel would be inherently suspicious.

So you end up in this weird state where you are too scared to make your own bullshit case, but need to fake some level of contribution. The end result is the analysis that Kita gave. A skilled scum player learns to take a persons words and use them out of context knowing way too many people will just believe the context you put them in and create a case on someone that most other townies could feasibly get behind.

The latter example is what I felt that Wade Fell was doing. However, I haven't done a full analysis on him to view what his motivations are behind his actions. Since it would be taken as OMGUS I preferred if Ace or Kita stepped up and lent a hand since I trust their skill in analyzing the situation and seeing if they agree or disagree with me. I could very well be letting my bias get the way which is why I wanted the help of someone else.

Alright let's try TPS now.
First of all, fuck you. First thing I was asked after Daypost popped up was do I want to sheep BH's case against you, and I said no, because I believed you were actually maybe capable of doing something useful for the town. Guess I was wrong.

Second, inexperienced maybe. Scum, no. I haven't formed any major cases because I honestly can't find a target that hasn't been scrutinized to death already that I could bring something new to the table for. So I act with my vote when I need to. I don't exactly think I've been non-confrontational at all this game, but of course that's a matter of perception. I guess everything I did during the day can just be ignored as well as what I'm doing now, sure. I wish, I WISH you didn't look scummy as fuck because then I'd make a case against YOU, but I still believe you are town, fuck if I know why. Gut reads doing me real justice thus far.



Stop playing games. Claim properly. behaving like this around the claim has already lost you a heap of credit in my eyes.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 14:35 GMT
#1553
Also bear in mind that ace has not read the whole thread yet and so any reads of his should be at least partially if not completely ignored until he is up to date. Same with mocsta.

Let's just reset and try and calm the fuck down.

OK. I am waiting until WoS claims properly to decide what to do.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 14:37 GMT
#1558
On March 20 2013 23:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Funny thing about my role, from the PM I assumed rolecop which usually means only role, no alignment, especially given this setup when we don't know what the names refer to that would make sense right?

Well I got alignment too.



Well that is fine. Liquid city which was a DrH game had a role+alignment cop.

Who did you check last night? Where is the crumb from the check and what is the result? just say townie/scum not role.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 14:41 GMT
#1564
On March 20 2013 23:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
I think from now on I'm honestly just going to lurk in mafia games. It seems a surefire way to survive as town or scum 'till D4 at least the way TL has played every single game I've ever been in. And fewer chances of me fucking myself over by opening my big mouth.


The game is not about survival. I usually survive a long time as town. That just shows me I need to improve my town game a lot.

Most of the good players get shot really early unless they are playing realy badly. For example, marv from personality 2.

You are playing well IMO. You just need to stop acting so strangely around your claim.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 14:45 GMT
#1569
##unvote
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 14:48 GMT
#1571
Could we get ace's filter in the op please <3
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 15:02 GMT
#1579
On March 20 2013 23:59 zarepath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 23:51 Vivax wrote:
Zarepath why do you keep asking people scummy questions about their rolenames and roles they don't concern you AT ALL, if you are town.


It concerns me if a red Eye can get away with pretending to be blue. He's been incredibly vague his entire role claim, and his breadcrumb isn't actually a breadcrumb. He could have taken any sentence he said about TPS on N1 and said "I was going to say this phrase every time I checked someone."

It's true his read on him changed, but his read changed on a lot of people (Wiggles) for seemingly no reason.


We aren't lynching a cop claim. Especially one that fits with the thought processes in his filter.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 15:06 GMT
#1581
I'm worried about Goodkarma. I expect a lot more from him than his current contributions. I don;t have anything apart from post counts. But goodkarma is usually engaged and useful as town and I am just not seeing it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 15:09 GMT
#1585
Yeah I don't see a problem with claiming just the role name.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 15:21 GMT
#1590
On March 21 2013 00:19 Mocsta wrote:
zarepath.. howz the mason chat with BH going?


Good question.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 15:26 GMT
#1593
Mocstas right. Don't even claim if he is the fool. just don't claim the name.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 15:32 GMT
#1599
He flipped blue. So There is no reason to think he is not town. I am inclined to agree that most if not all of the people posting right now are probably town.

Right now I am trying to figure out who to look at as a serious lynch candidate.

It's pretty hard though. Lots of the scummy players are also lurkers and could just be bad.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 15:34 GMT
#1600
On March 21 2013 00:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 00:27 Ace wrote:
zarepath I think this is a scenario of someone playing badly as Town rather than a Scum screwing up the claim. Unless Wos is running some kind of gamble here, he just looks like someone silly /newbie enough to put his own survival over winning as a part of the Town.

I feel like from the last few pages we have mostly pro-Town players arguing over trivial stuff. We should start looking at the people on WoS's wagon, especially if you believe he is innocent. I would cross-check that with anyone who tried to push keirathi before his/her death at night and the GreyMist lynch. that being said was GreyMist town? the way it's written is ambiguous.

This actually makes my night action PM a little more interesting. Is it automatically assumed that blue always = town?

Yes.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 15:42 GMT
#1607
Hey VE? you still think I am scum? Because for someone who has called me scum over consecutive games you have done sweet fuck all about it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 15:44 GMT
#1610
EBWOP: Days not games.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 15:45 GMT
#1612
On March 21 2013 00:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm up in the air with you DP. I don't like how everyone who accuses you just MUST be scum, but frankly none of that is actually enough for me to build a case on you. I'm not interested in lynching you today - that's about as far as my read of you goes. I think there are better targets.


So you are backing down again. This is way different from yelling at me in all caps and painting my name red. Also, not everyone who calls me scum is scum. So stop posting BS please.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 15:46 GMT
#1614
On March 21 2013 00:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
If you say so. Mafia still wanted me dead N1, if you think I'm scum vote for me.


nah I am not going to lynch a vet claim with KP probably lost and no other claims. But I don't trust you at all.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 15:52 GMT
#1618
On March 21 2013 00:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
To which I said, "What a fucking horrible idea. You're an idiot if you do this"


LOL well, that is true. It is a horrible Idea.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 20 2013 15:54 GMT
#1621
I know about positive elimination. Except it doesn't work when your town reads are ridiculous.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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