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On March 20 2013 01:28 Vivax wrote: It's obvious BH is a mason, so it doesn't make VE automatically scum. It just means that part of the logs with GK have been written in the scum qt and the D1 masoning was fake, the others could be real. + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2013 02:23 layabout wrote: vivax thinks TPS is yamato and started calling him yamato. So either they are both scum, masons or vivax did something "silly". Given how layabout calls this obvious slip stupid, but was pretty quick to damn me for a slip that wasn't one earlier, I'm now also suspicious of him. Layabout why do you call cosmic out of all players to look at this? This appears to be another incident with the sarcasm. Vivax i didn't think you slipped i explained the slip but (i hope it should be obvious to most) i thought it was just you being silly. If you notice i didn't try to push you or TPS, as i should have if i believed you had slipped. As to your other point: I am not telling. Yet. | ||
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On March 20 2013 01:36 Vivax wrote: Like, I don't know how you people (layabout, TPS) all assume it makes everyone masoned scum, do you guys have no fantasy or are you just trying to put the slip into favourable light. Replacing the TPS and glurio reads with layabout and Wade now, TPS is being tunneled by wade and GK so unlikely scum imo. Zarepath, GK, cosmicomics, Wade, layabout scum probably. Layabout you said you liked my case against Zarepath earlier yet you are doing absolutely nothing to hunt scum currently, you're just defending BH, zarepath is here and you don't try to figure out if he scum? Since then Keir flipped and DarthPunk made the point that we were probably on the wrong track. Keir thought zare was town and i am willing to give hm the benefit of the doubt. It's also worth realising that mason roles ARE ptobably balanced between town and mafia but maybe with more on town's side, since grey is probably not the only town mason since he could only mason 1 person then kill them. I am not defending BH, your push on him based on qt's (unlike most of what you have done so far) was borderline retarded. Can't say much more. | ||
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On March 20 2013 01:36 Vivax wrote: Like, I don't know how you people (layabout, TPS) all assume it makes everyone masoned scum, do you guys have no fantasy or are you just trying to put the slip into favourable light. Replacing the TPS and glurio reads with layabout and Wade now, TPS is being tunneled by wade and GK so unlikely scum imo. Zarepath, GK, cosmicomics, Wade, layabout scum probably. Layabout you said you liked my case against Zarepath earlier yet you are doing absolutely nothing to hunt scum currently, you're just defending BH, zarepath is here and you don't try to figure out if he scum? Misread this first point, VE and GK confirmed the logs were correct so if BH is fabracting the logs they are deliberately supporting the lie. Zarepath also supports it but we haven't seen logs. | ||
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dude is supertown. | ||
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On March 20 2013 06:16 VisceraEyes wrote: I just want to see where it's going. I wouldn't say I'm supertown, but I'm certainly not the scummiest in the thread by far. LOL Maybe no one knows your meta. What do you think about all mason's claiming? We can leave BH alive for mafia to waste a shot on but i get the impression there are quite a few and one of em has to be scum. | ||
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I see nothing that makes me think town. | ||
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On March 20 2013 07:06 VisceraEyes wrote: I do, but there are things I don't like too. Like his read on DYH...what is it? I think it's, "i thought i could push him on day1, don' think i can push him anymore" On March 20 2013 00:04 TranceStorm wrote: I didn't vote for you though, and I didn't drop my case against DoYouHas. I just said that I would be willing to vote for you. I didn't have any unique reasons why; they had all been outlined beforehand by people like sciberia. If I were to switch my vote to you, I might have given a brief 2 liner about how lackluster your D1 posts seemed to be. I took this post out of context the first time i read it though. He is just saying that one day1 he had left his case in the air. Then he retracted it during the night. Maybe he was busy but it really doesn't look like he cared about the lynch at all. | ||
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On March 20 2013 08:03 Vivax wrote: Well what is layabout meaning then if you didn't say anything regarding a confirmation. I've been arguing over him that you don't have to all be scum just cause you're being masoned, and he keeps arguing BH didn't slip cause you should all be scum if that was the case, which isn't true. How is layabout supposed to know that the logs were correct based on what VE and GK say, the argument is complete nonsense if you start from the assumption that: 1. GK would be scum anyway. 2. VE isn't in the same qt as GK As for the mason qt, why does BH need the hosts to make the last two if he was able to make one by himself first? Doesn't that mean that, by rules, the qt has to be created by the hosts? Or else he could simply open the last two by himself as well. How reliable is it that he's blaming his first qt on the host? VE admitted that they were masoning. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18083312 It makes no sense to think that BH would fake the logs. | ||
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I don't want to look at BH until we have more masons out or flipped, it's really unlikely that grey would be the only one since he was supposed to be the vig. | ||
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On March 20 2013 08:17 VisceraEyes wrote: This doesn't even make a single bit of sense. Do you think BH is scummy or not? We're not lynching or not lynching BH based on his ROLE laya that's absolutely asinine. We have no idea what to expect from scum powers and equally no idea what to expect in terms of town powers. It's normal so we have a rough idea, i think in the mafia podcast drh mentioned wanting to use hidden communication roles, if BH is the scum mason and can mason people all the time why would town's only mason be grey's role? Keir was saying that he thinks they will be balanced am i am inclined to agree. So i think it's more likely that his role belongs to town. BH's defense of GK was scummy. His filter looks quite normal for him, i tend to skim his posts. | ||
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It rhymes with Glazingband | ||
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I think that there are likely quite a few mason roles in this game because of greymists role, he is a sudo-mason/vig. It would be really weird if that was the only mason role that belongs to town. BH claims mason but a more powerful mason than grey. Either there are no more masons and since grey's mason is so weak i think that would leave BH town. Or there a more masons and one of the masons is scum. | ||
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On March 20 2013 09:19 Vivax wrote: Well I read it right now but frankly I developed the feeling he is town, I find others way scummier than him and WoS is a newbie so I understand him being defensive, dunno why he rides so much on not knowing how to metaread though. + Show Spoiler + It's a guy who says these things to a guy who asks questions to a claimed veteran. Kita don't you feel my Zarepath, GK and cosmicomics cases are good? I feel they are the strongest ones and I will likely not let go of those reads. I still have 2 wildcards currently occupied by Layabout and BH but TPS and glurio would fit in there too. It is no longer possible for me to interact with you without calling you stupid in some way. I think you are town. But my god... | ||
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I want to resolve stuff to do with BH though. If you are a town aligned mason i strongly suggest claiming. night. | ||
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On March 20 2013 10:03 Vivax wrote: I don't think MrWiggles is scum and I played with him as scum (and he got lynched D1), so I feel quite confident in that, I found many of his contributions useful and he's a middle-late joiner on the Grey wagon, which speaks against him being scum as well (and even more so for WoS being town since he was the last one) Since you guys all despise my reads I'll endorse a TPS lynch (he has been defended by my scumreads and is currently playing in a way I find openly and purposedly useless for scumhunting purpose, still feel it's more of a policy lynch if he gets lynched before my other scumreads) or a layabout lynch (openly scummy and anti-town too, doesn't give a fuck and doesn't cooperate). + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2013 14:14 Oatsmaster wrote: VOTE COUNT! ThePeashooter (0): goodkarma (1): Coagulation (0): GreYMisT (12): testsubject893 (0): Sandroba (0): zarepath (6): DoYouHas (1): TranceStorm cosmicomics (0): DarthPunk (3): Vivax (0):: VisceraEyes (0): Voting is compulsory w8 wtf are you talking about? | ||
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that should be the first thing you do. On March 20 2013 23:14 DarthPunk wrote: For those who somehow don;t understand why I have a problem with all these town reads with little to no reasoning. Townies just don't think that way. I think I have one solid town read at the moment and I am still not sold on it. So i really don;t know what the fuck people are talking about when they produce town reads and especially 180's from thin air with some weak as shit EXCUSE. Because that is what all the reasoning for these town reads are. Excuses to think they are town. There is no analysis that will sway others to the read. and there is nothing that I can empathise with in terms of mindset. DP it's called positive elimination, and it's quite a nice approach, though it does leave you kinda stuck on some day1's if town is playing like crap. It's only a problem if people do it wrong or talk about townreads unnecessarily. On March 20 2013 23:56 Mocsta wrote: ##Unvote I cant see you fabricating that post to TPS, as premeditation for this roleclaim. I have seen newbie DT act the way you have before.. so dont beat yaself up too harshly This is enough to keep WoS alive, it's far more likely that his posting would be consistent with his crumbs as town than mafia. In my experience mafia might crumb but they will not play and think like a DT/rolecop. Today we should kill BH(Wade Fell). It's extremely likely that the mirror exists and it likely one of the mirror and BH is scum. Given his unusual defense of GK I think it's quite likely that BH is scum! ##Vote Wade Fell | ||
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