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On March 23 2013 00:22 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 00:12 zarepath wrote:On March 22 2013 08:29 Kenpachi wrote:
... wtf
Ace lynch are you guys 4 rela
like
really
what
i wanted to cringe when i read through the last 20 pages honestly. That just was not even fair and more importantly, easy as fuck for mafia to manipulate. Where is the justice in lynching somebody without a fair trial? are you fucking kidding me? We have numerous veterans in this game and this game is for experienced players and you guys go ahead and lynch Ace, not even there to defend himself. Honestly forget Vivax, the dude isn't as blatantly obvious as DP and Wiggles if he were scum because they literally just walked into the vote with 4 hours left and screamed LYNCH GOODKARMA/LYNCH ACE. Not only that, Wiggles wagon was about to catch fire and VE is going to be easy to kill for the next night regardless of his alignment, making it even easier for scum to manipulate our lynch. Fucking unbelievable. Ace was barely in this game too, I thought we might have learned something with that GreYMisT lynch. SERIOUSLY.
Also, VisceraEyes is a clown. BH is town, GK is town, Coagulation is town. Get off their dicks, and actually think for once. This what you are looking for WoS? Yup that's it. I haven't looked into Kenpachi so much because he's basically useless like so many others here. It's just a shame there are only 4 scum left because I could easily see there being 6-7 based on activity and content alone. Town just has no desire to step it up at all and it's going to cost us this game. Like wtf, his contribution is chastising everyone who actually has the balls to participate in the game and then he fucks off again? I definitely understand why Mocsta ragequit the game. His scumreads are GK and then Vivax. Looks real great on him.
You and I both share the same sentiment when you say "Town just has no desire to step it up at all"
I find it problematic that BH was so hard to identify as mafia and that there are so many people that do not give off town vibes yeah?
Fight me btw, my scumreads are DP and Wiggles and i was busy last night as i have said before.
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I think i should organize myself for once. None of these should be surprising, they're pretty agreeable.
Town
testsubject###
Teepeeshooter
waveofshadow
coagulation
Mafia
Wiggles
DarthPunk
zarepath (intuitive)
My lynch vote for today is Mr. Wiggles. Why? simple, he feigned usefulness here and there and here some more. I posted about his chainlink of questions and in general, he is playing like mafioso wiggles. Is there anything else for me to say WAVEOFSHADOW?
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omfg LOL i put Town in red
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I fell asleep on you guys lol. I merely thought DarthPunk was scummy for his push on Goodkarma when goodkarma is one of the least scummiest players in the game at that point tbh. But since BH flipped scum and VE is likely town so I'm inclined to retract my claim off of him.
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BH took the activity with him to the grave. So Wiggles makes 2 very good cases before he died, one that revitalized my suspicion on DarthPunk and another on kitaman that i happen to agree with, however, kitaman has been bringing up a lot of excuses to the table so I'm not very sure if he's just halfheartedly in the game but I had the same suspicion as wiggles in the beginning of the game with that greymist lynch. I'm still iffy on DarthPunk, just an FoS on that surprise wagon on GK and switch to Ace.
I haven't looked at cosmicomics at all this game lol
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hes a case of wifom where i'd take the wine. Say, lets look at it this way. Those that voted VE could have had a freepass to look town so BH attacks him for being 3rd party. EASY way for mafia to gain credibility for doing what is best for town. Now, I certainly did not expect a BH hit, and mafia probably did not either so cosmicomics is a fair bet for mafioso. So look at the VE wagon again.
also btw zarepath, you have been looking irresolute the entire game with posts like these
On March 24 2013 21:12 zarepath wrote: I know I was voting for cosmicomics, but after reading Wiggles' filter I'd thought he wouldn't be that bad of a lynch, either. Honestly, that guy needs to flip soon. It seems as though nobody is really willing to talk about him. Does anybody have a town read on him, and why?
grats, you were also one of 3 to vote Wiggles on Day 2..
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Oh ya about VE's wagon, think about it this way. Mafia knows Ace was town. Mafia doesn't know if VE was 3rd party or not.
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On March 25 2013 05:20 cosmicomics wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2013 01:29 Kenpachi wrote:hes a case of wifom where i'd take the wine. Say, lets look at it this way. Those that voted VE could have had a freepass to look town so BH attacks him for being 3rd party. EASY way for mafia to gain credibility for doing what is best for town. Now, I certainly did not expect a BH hit, and mafia probably did not either so cosmicomics is a fair bet for mafioso. So look at the VE wagon again. also btw zarepath, you have been looking irresolute the entire game with posts like these On March 24 2013 21:12 zarepath wrote:I know I was voting for cosmicomics, but after reading Wiggles' filter I'd thought he wouldn't be that bad of a lynch, either. Honestly, that guy needs to flip soon. It seems as though nobody is really willing to talk about him. Does anybody have a town read on him, and why? grats, you were also one of 3 to vote Wiggles on Day 2.. I never considered VisceraEyes 3rd party, stop lying. Additionally, the 3 of 4 main wagons on day 2 were town. Ace (8), goodkarma (3) and Mr. Wiggles (3) and VisceraEyes (6). There's no logical reason why anyone should expect scum to be especially on the VisceraEyes' wagon. There's more sense that scum would want Ace dead because they know they can push VisceraEyes later because it is an "EASY way for mafia to gain credibility", and so by your reasoning people should be looking at Ace's wagon. You are trying to get me lynched without actually calling me scum so that if I do you don't take any responsibility and you can blame the poor sap who happened to bite.
No I don't even know who you are. I did realize that but I assumed you were being dumb
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ok guys, are activity is fucking terrible, i hope it isn't like this for the next cycles. I find myself agreeing with what cosmicomics says in the last page and i want to look at those pressuring him for no solid reason. Namely Zarepath who is due lynch. Has anyone realized that this guy doesn't stick to almost anything he says?
On March 21 2013 02:23 zarepath wrote:Kenpachi has completely disappeared, which is odd considering this:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 07:08 Kenpachi wrote:
I'm personally not very comfortable not getting any limelight, good or bad lol
K, this is true what i said. I tend to be much stronger at paying attention to myself, and to those that pay attention to me. That's my comfort zone so i made a blatant post to get attention to pull people into my zone.
TestSubject has been completely AFK ever since he voted for GreyMist, save for this post, so look for his contributions soon: Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 11:28 TestSubject893 wrote:
Hey guys, sorry I've been really inactive. I had a couple of things come up that have been taking up a lot of my time. I'm like 20 pages behind but am going to catch up right now. Okay. So what?
glurio's last post is calling WoS scum, and since the Eye claim, glurio's said nothing. I want to know if he believes WoS's claim and who his scum reads are now. Cosmicomics' last post looked pretty scummy, and his VE case seemed absurd to me: Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 13:47 cosmicomics wrote:
WaveofShadow, could you tone down on the swearing please? It can turn people off (including townies), which will in turn fuel this bandwagon against you, and the worst kind of wagon is one where it is town pushed.
I think it would be most beneficial to everyone if you could consolidate your posting and present your defense against kita's main case. Or build a strong case of your own on somebody. Because right now it is getting more difficult to read you and you are giving scum / good intentioned townies more fuel.
I'll be looking over your meta, the case and the posts in interest in the meantime. Mr. Wiggles still has no new reads except for WoS, and he hasn't reacted at all to WoS's blue claim. RyuSuzaku hasn't done anything since his N1 reads on VE, TranceStorm, and glurio. Of all of these, I like cosmicomics the most as a lynch. He hasn't done much, and the things he's done lack follow-through -- he made the poor VE case and never spoke of it again, he showed up to tell WoS to quit being a baby after everyone else was already on WoS, and hasn't said anything about WoS again after that. He looks like scum to me.
So this post, is pretty terrible yeah? He brings things up, and does not do anything with them. He found it strange i disappeared.. but as far as I'm concerned, I've not changed in terms of activity. He does not pressure me at all for it, now that I have no reason to be gone. His small attack on testsubject, is pretty meaningless cause he doesn't back it up at all with anything.
Also, some wishwashiness.
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EBWOP: our activity and my grammar are fucking terrible
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oh they masoned... well, i reckon i should take notes as the game goes on lol.
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On March 25 2013 10:29 cosmicomics wrote:
Kenpachi, what's your take on the zarepath & Wade Fell mason?
Also, could I get your thoughts on glurio?
glurio (also did not pay attention to him ...) could very well be scum if we consider that he's conflicting in reads with a lot of players in the game. I'm leaning scum on him definitely cause he defends BH and attacks people that are at this point town.
A lot of people think you're scum and the only scummy thing I see is defending BH but other than that, everything else you say seems to be making sense but then again, BH also made sense for a while :/
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is it just me or is it lylo assuming theres 4 mafia left as WoS has said
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cosmicomics is still a pile of WIFOM. I don't see why mafia would kill VE and put cc in such a spotlight, but that's why it is WIFOM. I don't like how layabout hasn't actually contributed for the majority of the game if you think about it. This is honestly, the most confusion a town could possibly have.
WaveofShadow I think is town. If he's mafia, he deserves some award.
This game is so convoluted that I'm even considering that Vivax killed BH and Testsubject as mafia claimed the bullet when shit went down.
vote: layabout
yolovote
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On March 29 2013 21:45 zarepath wrote:Guys, it's got to be Kenpachi: Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 00:12 zarepath wrote:SCUMkenpachi Disproportionate response to BH pushing a lynch (ie, false distancing from other scum): On March 17 2013 09:15 Kenpachi wrote:
K BH. you know as well as i do that we dont deviate and form 2 wagons.
fuck off? Buddying: On March 17 2013 07:54 Kenpachi wrote:
Thats not all, You're critique of geript SUCKS. ITS TERRIBLE. People including DoYouHas and myself will wonder, what the fuck are you talking about? He does not look scum at all. Sheeps BH after fake distancing, two targets are both town flips: On March 17 2013 09:35 Kenpachi wrote:
ok your bandwagon is pretty legit. I'd call for a lynch on Peashooter or goodkarma and a vig shot the next night.
No questions that is done. Crappy reason to vote for GM: On March 18 2013 12:07 Kenpachi wrote:
So i guess the goodkarma wagon is no more. In that case, i will vote for Greymist instead of zarepeth. Responds with: On March 19 2013 07:08 Kenpachi wrote:
I'm personally not very comfortable not getting any limelight, good or bad lol
ill bear with it though, I'd like to claim a medic protect on me, just cause. I have a feeling mafia will gun me down first night.
GreYMisT not being scum is disappointing but it is honestly not surprising, though im having a hard time piecing information on his wagon together. Its safe to assume we will find majority of mafia, maybe even all of them, in the bunch that voted him because 1. easy as hell to sheep, 2. he is a forum veteran. 12 people voted for him, including me
RyuSuzaku, goodkarma, Vivax, geript, ThePeashooter, cosmicomics, Wade Fell, Mr. Wiggles, Kenpachi, zarepath, kitaman27, TestSubject893, WaveofShadow
Honestly, a hard group to figure out.
I'd like to assume that me and Ryu are not mafia lol.
kitaman is just not contributing as much as we'd like to did we not realize? He's as invisible as I am. So he switches to a vote where he's not surprised he flipped town? Also note that he's not very comfortable NOT getting the limelight, and yet he's completely disappeared. Also note that this post is full of crap -- "mafia MUST be in here, but it's a hard group to figure out; btw, neither me or Ryu are mafia. But I'm having a hard time piecing information together. ALSO, I want to claim a medic protect because I am super town and scum know it." No drive to figure anything out, just to contribute without actually contributing anything. There is more energy spent trying to look like town, while also an awareness of HOW he looks TO town -- note the self-effacing "he's as invisible as I am." Why is he letting us all know how aware he is of his participation? Is it a proactive defense? On March 20 2013 10:48 Kenpachi wrote:
we're all kidding here, goodkarma is still scum. Pretty much, his defense relies on the fact that he's playing like his meta.
.. okay .. Day 1, its massively easy for you to fill in as yourself (somebody said this and i can testify but then, my testimonial isn't reliable.)
It only makes too much sense to me for him to be scum. if he isn't we figure out a lot about the alignments of all the players because right now, it's all over the place. The last 15 pages was just 1 large pressure fest and i believe we should boldly lynch goodkarma. Goodkarma was a hot topic and was taken seriously as a lynch candidate and was seriously defended by a good amount of players. His case on goodkarma, who flipped blue, is based entirely on the fact that he was a hot topic and that many players talked about him. There is literally no comment on GK's actual content, just on the fact that he was talked about by the town. It's like a sheep trying to re-start the herd so he can have something to follow again. And what's with this "boldly" crap? How about "intelligently" or "carefully" or "rationally?" It's a bad argument without substance trying to get people to lynch emotionally. On March 21 2013 10:01 Kenpachi wrote:if someone wants to look into Vivax for me, go for it. I do not have a solid read on BH and VE cause they are incredibly difficult to read (they sway in persona every game from my experiences). However, VE is a better lynchbet cause he does offer a bit of information i'd say. unvote: goodkarma
vote: Vivaxps: zarepath, you dont look all too hot with that post you mentioned me ^^ + Show Spoiler [i bolded this load of crap by mistake…] +On March 21 2013 02:23 zarepath wrote:
Kenpachi has completely disappeared, which is odd considering this:
On March 19 2013 07:08 Kenpachi wrote:
I'm personally not very comfortable not getting any limelight, good or bad lol
TestSubject has been completely AFK ever since he voted for GreyMist, save for this post, so look for his contributions soon:
On March 20 2013 11:28 TestSubject893 wrote:
Hey guys, sorry I've been really inactive. I had a couple of things come up that have been taking up a lot of my time. I'm like 20 pages behind but am going to catch up right now.
glurio's last post is calling WoS scum, and since the Eye claim, glurio's said nothing. I want to know if he believes WoS's claim and who his scum reads are now.
Cosmicomics' last post looked pretty scummy, and his VE case seemed absurd to me:
On March 20 2013 13:47 cosmicomics wrote:
WaveofShadow, could you tone down on the swearing please? It can turn people off (including townies), which will in turn fuel this bandwagon against you, and the worst kind of wagon is one where it is town pushed.
I think it would be most beneficial to everyone if you could consolidate your posting and present your defense against kita's main case. Or build a strong case of your own on somebody. Because right now it is getting more difficult to read you and you are giving scum / good intentioned townies more fuel.
I'll be looking over your meta, the case and the posts in interest in the meantime.
Mr. Wiggles still has no new reads except for WoS, and he hasn't reacted at all to WoS's blue claim.
RyuSuzaku hasn't done anything since his N1 reads on VE, TranceStorm, and glurio.
Of all of these, I like cosmicomics the most as a lynch. He hasn't done much, and the things he's done lack follow-through -- he made the poor VE case and never spoke of it again, he showed up to tell WoS to quit being a baby after everyone else was already on WoS, and hasn't said anything about WoS again after that. He looks like scum to me.
I am voting Vivax but I want other people to check into his filter FOR me? What the heck is this? On March 21 2013 10:07 Kenpachi wrote:
ill admit, i got a general gist of it to stay up to topic so briefly read it but didn't go too much into anything.
Oh ya, wiggles was another hot topic for good reason. He's also a tricky dude to understand when he's scum because he very illusive as an experienced mafia player (Hes mafia every game) and I don't get a particularly good vibe of him. I have very limited experience with him being town so I have nothing to compare my vibe to. However, I don't like that in our conversation, all he proposed was a questionnaire so think about it. I generally think a barrage of questions is a shitty attempt to enter into the townie blend so FoS on him too. "wiggles was another hot topic for good reason." Why is he framing his reads in terms of how popular it was to talk about them? Also "Hes mafia every game." Isn't that just calling him mafia? Because the rest of this post doesn't look like he's calling him mafia, just warning town to pay attention to him. On March 21 2013 10:12 Kenpachi wrote:
also his questions feigned usefulness. They didnt actually provide anything useful despite their objective tone. Also, he revealed halfheartedness when he just strayed away from the questionnaire after my last response so theres a lack of concern in Wiggles which makes me inclined to believe he is suspicious "lack of concern in Wiggles which makes me inclined to believe he is suspicious" that is a long train of mitigating phrases, leading to what is literally almost not a read at all. On March 22 2013 08:29 Kenpachi wrote:
... wtf
Ace lynch are you guys 4 rela
like
really
what
i wanted to cringe when i read through the last 20 pages honestly. That just was not even fair and more importantly, easy as fuck for mafia to manipulate. Where is the justice in lynching somebody without a fair trial? are you fucking kidding me? We have numerous veterans in this game and this game is for experienced players and you guys go ahead and lynch Ace, not even there to defend himself. Honestly forget Vivax, the dude isn't as blatantly obvious as DP and Wiggles if he were scum because they literally just walked into the vote with 4 hours left and screamed LYNCH GOODKARMA/LYNCH ACE. Not only that, Wiggles wagon was about to catch fire and VE is going to be easy to kill for the next night regardless of his alignment, making it even easier for scum to manipulate our lynch. Fucking unbelievable. Ace was barely in this game too, I thought we might have learned something with that GreYMisT lynch. SERIOUSLY.
Also, VisceraEyes is a clown. BH is town, GK is town, Coagulation is town. Get off their dicks, and actually think for once. This is so fake. He called BH town and GK town (after pushing for a "bold" lynch of GK), but the majority of this post is simply trying to look pro-town WAY after the Ace lynch was old news. Fake outrage. The timing of this post is so off for what its content actually is, which is outrage at the town, when the town is already moving onto something else at this point. On March 23 2013 05:44 Kenpachi wrote:BH mason'ed me but nothing important was said in it. I don't want to post it cause I did vent my rage at town last night but here it is. + Show Spoiler [Logs] +Blazinghand 03-21-2013 08:00 PM ET (US) Oh there it is. He thinks I'm pushing a scum agenda (unspecified) and that setup-wise it's unlikely town has 2 masons. 11 Blazinghand 03-21-2013 07:55 PM ET (US) Well he eventually realized the timestamps weren't adjusted for time zones so he retracted that argument. He said I'm a "wild card" for whether or not I'm scum now. I'll ask him. 10 K 03-21-2013 07:43 PM ET (US) or is it just because of the timestamps 9 K 03-21-2013 07:43 PM ET (US) Vivax thinks you're scum and I'm not entirely sure. can you fill me in on his reasons? 8 Blazinghand 03-21-2013 07:33 PM ET (US) This only lasts until daybreak So i had vivax down as scum until he made this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18089009Basically he thought my mason logs were faked due to timestamps, and he called me out on it. He hadn't corrected for timezones so it looked like I posted a huge post in the QT at the same time as I did in the thread (within like a minute). I don't think scum would be trying to prove my logs were fake via timestamp since scum would know (or at least have no reason to doubt) my mason claim. Aside from that, he's played pretty scummy, but pushing a line of inquiry like that really relies on _believing_ your target is lying. It would have been a waste of time if he was scum, and he'd know that. GK, yeah not scum. Ace lynch was pretty shit but honestly it's just kicking a dead horse at this point. I don't even know what VE is doing any more, but this isn't the town VE I'm used to. I'll be pushing him more and voting him if I'm alive tomorrow. 7 K 03-21-2013 07:19 PM ET (US) Goodkarma, hes not scum. I believe Vivax could be mafia still but i am not sure at all 6 K 03-21-2013 07:18 PM ET (US) Mocsta is also a chaotic little fellow and he called me a troll so i dont like him by default 5 K 03-21-2013 07:18 PM ET (US) Reading the thread made me forget that you mentioned coag. i dont care! He's not interesting 4 K 03-21-2013 07:17 PM ET (US) how long does this mason last? If its only for the night cycle, poor choice cause I have an exam tomorrow lol. im annoyed how ace got lynched for no good reason. honestly, im really mad at this town. i think this town is a big pile of dogshit. im not allowed to say that in the thread though but seriously, ACE LYNCH? also, why were people taking DP seriously for the gk lynch? why didnt they counterattack DP? He's obviously fucking scum. So is Wiggles. Forget Vivax, these guys make it so obvious that theyre scum. Like, wtf? Also, i dont understand the craze about sciberbia. He has a good rep but honestly, i don't get good vibes from him at all. Although VE is a nulltell, i think a lynch on him would be much more crucial than some random lynch on Ace. He has barely played so far and he gets lynched without even being able to defend himself. WHERE IS THE LOGIC IN THIS TOWN??? 3 Blazinghand 03-21-2013 06:59 PM ET (US) Coag is almost certainly town. He's doing his best to pry apart bad arguments and pressure people for answers, even in his coag-ey way. 2 Blazinghand 03-21-2013 04:12 PM ET (US) so what's up you around or are we just being afk 1 Blazinghand 03-21-2013 01:20 PM ET (US) hello my gentle friend This log is full of nothing but them pretty much saying to each other exactly what they say in the thread. Note that they don't ask each other any questions or interact at all. It strikes me as being very staged. On March 23 2013 06:06 Kenpachi wrote:
I think i should organize myself for once. None of these should be surprising, they're pretty agreeable.
Town
testsubject###
Teepeeshooter
waveofshadow
coagulation
Mafia
Wiggles
DarthPunk
zarepath (intuitive)
My lynch vote for today is Mr. Wiggles. Why? simple, he feigned usefulness here and there and here some more. I posted about his chainlink of questions and in general, he is playing like mafioso wiggles. Is there anything else for me to say WAVEOFSHADOW? Notice how he put "Town" in red. Subconscious slip. Also, notice how all of his mafia are town (I have the benefit of knowing this for 100 percent, but hopefully I am an easy enough town read at this point for the rest of you for this to be as substantial a point from your perspective). On March 23 2013 22:26 Kenpachi wrote:
I fell asleep on you guys lol. I merely thought DarthPunk was scummy for his push on Goodkarma when goodkarma is one of the least scummiest players in the game at that point tbh. But since BH flipped scum and VE is likely town so I'm inclined to retract my claim off of him. Wasn't Kenpachi the one trying to boldly lynch GK? The rest of his filter is complaining about the town being so awful, and him mentioning how awful he is (I haven't read his filter at all lol, I was way off on that guy lol, etc.). This guy looks SCUM.
nice. you isolated the piece of art for me. I really do like that you tunneled the shit out of all my posts to make them look scummy. Also, you seriously just spearheaded into all my post with no context whatsoever.
im done.
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On March 29 2013 21:45 zarepath wrote:Guys, it's got to be Kenpachi: Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 00:12 zarepath wrote:SCUMkenpachi Disproportionate response to BH pushing a lynch (ie, false distancing from other scum): On March 17 2013 09:15 Kenpachi wrote:
K BH. you know as well as i do that we dont deviate and form 2 wagons.
fuck off? LOL. I just wanted to be able to use the vote count as a weapon but if that is disproportionate to you, then so be it. At that point, the wagon was 2-3 people yeah? so seriously, fuck off BH.Buddying: On March 17 2013 07:54 Kenpachi wrote:
Thats not all, You're critique of geript SUCKS. ITS TERRIBLE. People including DoYouHas and myself will wonder, what the fuck are you talking about? He does not look scum at all. Sheeps BH after fake distancing, two targets are both town flips: Damn it really took forever for somebody to nitpick this. It's unfortunate that I can't use this post anymoreOn March 17 2013 09:35 Kenpachi wrote:
ok your bandwagon is pretty legit. I'd call for a lynch on Peashooter or goodkarma and a vig shot the next night.
No questions that is done. Crappy reason to vote for GM: On March 18 2013 12:07 Kenpachi wrote:
So i guess the goodkarma wagon is no more. In that case, i will vote for Greymist instead of zarepeth. Responds with: On March 19 2013 07:08 Kenpachi wrote:
I'm personally not very comfortable not getting any limelight, good or bad lol
ill bear with it though, I'd like to claim a medic protect on me, just cause. I have a feeling mafia will gun me down first night.
GreYMisT not being scum is disappointing but it is honestly not surprising, though im having a hard time piecing information on his wagon together. Its safe to assume we will find majority of mafia, maybe even all of them, in the bunch that voted him because 1. easy as hell to sheep, 2. he is a forum veteran. 12 people voted for him, including me
RyuSuzaku, goodkarma, Vivax, geript, ThePeashooter, cosmicomics, Wade Fell, Mr. Wiggles, Kenpachi, zarepath, kitaman27, TestSubject893, WaveofShadow
Honestly, a hard group to figure out.
I'd like to assume that me and Ryu are not mafia lol.
kitaman is just not contributing as much as we'd like to did we not realize? He's as invisible as I am. So he switches to a vote where he's not surprised he flipped town? Also note that he's not very comfortable NOT getting the limelight, and yet he's completely disappeared. Also note that this post is full of crap -- "mafia MUST be in here, but it's a hard group to figure out; btw, neither me or Ryu are mafia. But I'm having a hard time piecing information together. ALSO, I want to claim a medic protect because I am super town and scum know it." No drive to figure anything out, just to contribute without actually contributing anything. There is more energy spent trying to look like town, while also an awareness of HOW he looks TO town -- note the self-effacing "he's as invisible as I am." Why is he letting us all know how aware he is of his participation? Is it a proactive defense? K. reason why I was not surprised is because Greymist played exactly like I do, until he just accepted his death at least. I also like to post bullshit just to see people's responses. I was invisible and i let it known and tried to garner attentionOn March 20 2013 10:48 Kenpachi wrote:
we're all kidding here, goodkarma is still scum. Pretty much, his defense relies on the fact that he's playing like his meta.
.. okay .. Day 1, its massively easy for you to fill in as yourself (somebody said this and i can testify but then, my testimonial isn't reliable.)
It only makes too much sense to me for him to be scum. if he isn't we figure out a lot about the alignments of all the players because right now, it's all over the place. The last 15 pages was just 1 large pressure fest and i believe we should boldly lynch goodkarma. Goodkarma was a hot topic and was taken seriously as a lynch candidate and was seriously defended by a good amount of players. His case on goodkarma, who flipped blue, is based entirely on the fact that he was a hot topic and that many players talked about him. There is literally no comment on GK's actual content, just on the fact that he was talked about by the town. It's like a sheep trying to re-start the herd so he can have something to follow again. And what's with this "boldly" crap? How about "intelligently" or "carefully" or "rationally?" It's a bad argument without substance trying to get people to lynch emotionally. I'm not very good at filter reading if you haven't realized by now.On March 21 2013 10:01 Kenpachi wrote:if someone wants to look into Vivax for me, go for it. I do not have a solid read on BH and VE cause they are incredibly difficult to read (they sway in persona every game from my experiences). However, VE is a better lynchbet cause he does offer a bit of information i'd say. unvote: goodkarma
vote: Vivaxps: zarepath, you dont look all too hot with that post you mentioned me ^^ + Show Spoiler [i bolded this load of crap by mistake…] +On March 21 2013 02:23 zarepath wrote:
Kenpachi has completely disappeared, which is odd considering this:
On March 19 2013 07:08 Kenpachi wrote:
I'm personally not very comfortable not getting any limelight, good or bad lol
TestSubject has been completely AFK ever since he voted for GreyMist, save for this post, so look for his contributions soon:
On March 20 2013 11:28 TestSubject893 wrote:
Hey guys, sorry I've been really inactive. I had a couple of things come up that have been taking up a lot of my time. I'm like 20 pages behind but am going to catch up right now.
glurio's last post is calling WoS scum, and since the Eye claim, glurio's said nothing. I want to know if he believes WoS's claim and who his scum reads are now.
Cosmicomics' last post looked pretty scummy, and his VE case seemed absurd to me:
On March 20 2013 13:47 cosmicomics wrote:
WaveofShadow, could you tone down on the swearing please? It can turn people off (including townies), which will in turn fuel this bandwagon against you, and the worst kind of wagon is one where it is town pushed.
I think it would be most beneficial to everyone if you could consolidate your posting and present your defense against kita's main case. Or build a strong case of your own on somebody. Because right now it is getting more difficult to read you and you are giving scum / good intentioned townies more fuel.
I'll be looking over your meta, the case and the posts in interest in the meantime.
Mr. Wiggles still has no new reads except for WoS, and he hasn't reacted at all to WoS's blue claim.
RyuSuzaku hasn't done anything since his N1 reads on VE, TranceStorm, and glurio.
Of all of these, I like cosmicomics the most as a lynch. He hasn't done much, and the things he's done lack follow-through -- he made the poor VE case and never spoke of it again, he showed up to tell WoS to quit being a baby after everyone else was already on WoS, and hasn't said anything about WoS again after that. He looks like scum to me.
I am voting Vivax but I want other people to check into his filter FOR me? What the heck is this? On March 21 2013 10:07 Kenpachi wrote:
ill admit, i got a general gist of it to stay up to topic so briefly read it but didn't go too much into anything.
Oh ya, wiggles was another hot topic for good reason. He's also a tricky dude to understand when he's scum because he very illusive as an experienced mafia player (Hes mafia every game) and I don't get a particularly good vibe of him. I have very limited experience with him being town so I have nothing to compare my vibe to. However, I don't like that in our conversation, all he proposed was a questionnaire so think about it. I generally think a barrage of questions is a shitty attempt to enter into the townie blend so FoS on him too. "wiggles was another hot topic for good reason." Why is he framing his reads in terms of how popular it was to talk about them? Also "Hes mafia every game." Isn't that just calling him mafia? Because the rest of this post doesn't look like he's calling him mafia, just warning town to pay attention to him. rofl I don't know what you're saying here.On March 21 2013 10:12 Kenpachi wrote:
also his questions feigned usefulness. They didnt actually provide anything useful despite their objective tone. Also, he revealed halfheartedness when he just strayed away from the questionnaire after my last response so theres a lack of concern in Wiggles which makes me inclined to believe he is suspicious "lack of concern in Wiggles which makes me inclined to believe he is suspicious" that is a long train of mitigating phrases, leading to what is literally almost not a read at all. On March 22 2013 08:29 Kenpachi wrote:
... wtf
Ace lynch are you guys 4 rela
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i wanted to cringe when i read through the last 20 pages honestly. That just was not even fair and more importantly, easy as fuck for mafia to manipulate. Where is the justice in lynching somebody without a fair trial? are you fucking kidding me? We have numerous veterans in this game and this game is for experienced players and you guys go ahead and lynch Ace, not even there to defend himself. Honestly forget Vivax, the dude isn't as blatantly obvious as DP and Wiggles if he were scum because they literally just walked into the vote with 4 hours left and screamed LYNCH GOODKARMA/LYNCH ACE. Not only that, Wiggles wagon was about to catch fire and VE is going to be easy to kill for the next night regardless of his alignment, making it even easier for scum to manipulate our lynch. Fucking unbelievable. Ace was barely in this game too, I thought we might have learned something with that GreYMisT lynch. SERIOUSLY.
Also, VisceraEyes is a clown. BH is town, GK is town, Coagulation is town. Get off their dicks, and actually think for once. This is so fake. He called BH town and GK town (after pushing for a "bold" lynch of GK), but the majority of this post is simply trying to look pro-town WAY after the Ace lynch was old news. Fake outrage. The timing of this post is so off for what its content actually is, which is outrage at the town, when the town is already moving onto something else at this point. You think it's fake? I was gone for the Ace lynch you derp. Lack of content right here, I only was able to post at an odd time.On March 23 2013 05:44 Kenpachi wrote:BH mason'ed me but nothing important was said in it. I don't want to post it cause I did vent my rage at town last night but here it is. + Show Spoiler [Logs] +Blazinghand 03-21-2013 08:00 PM ET (US) Oh there it is. He thinks I'm pushing a scum agenda (unspecified) and that setup-wise it's unlikely town has 2 masons. 11 Blazinghand 03-21-2013 07:55 PM ET (US) Well he eventually realized the timestamps weren't adjusted for time zones so he retracted that argument. He said I'm a "wild card" for whether or not I'm scum now. I'll ask him. 10 K 03-21-2013 07:43 PM ET (US) or is it just because of the timestamps 9 K 03-21-2013 07:43 PM ET (US) Vivax thinks you're scum and I'm not entirely sure. can you fill me in on his reasons? 8 Blazinghand 03-21-2013 07:33 PM ET (US) This only lasts until daybreak So i had vivax down as scum until he made this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18089009Basically he thought my mason logs were faked due to timestamps, and he called me out on it. He hadn't corrected for timezones so it looked like I posted a huge post in the QT at the same time as I did in the thread (within like a minute). I don't think scum would be trying to prove my logs were fake via timestamp since scum would know (or at least have no reason to doubt) my mason claim. Aside from that, he's played pretty scummy, but pushing a line of inquiry like that really relies on _believing_ your target is lying. It would have been a waste of time if he was scum, and he'd know that. GK, yeah not scum. Ace lynch was pretty shit but honestly it's just kicking a dead horse at this point. I don't even know what VE is doing any more, but this isn't the town VE I'm used to. I'll be pushing him more and voting him if I'm alive tomorrow. 7 K 03-21-2013 07:19 PM ET (US) Goodkarma, hes not scum. I believe Vivax could be mafia still but i am not sure at all 6 K 03-21-2013 07:18 PM ET (US) Mocsta is also a chaotic little fellow and he called me a troll so i dont like him by default 5 K 03-21-2013 07:18 PM ET (US) Reading the thread made me forget that you mentioned coag. i dont care! He's not interesting 4 K 03-21-2013 07:17 PM ET (US) how long does this mason last? If its only for the night cycle, poor choice cause I have an exam tomorrow lol. im annoyed how ace got lynched for no good reason. honestly, im really mad at this town. i think this town is a big pile of dogshit. im not allowed to say that in the thread though but seriously, ACE LYNCH? also, why were people taking DP seriously for the gk lynch? why didnt they counterattack DP? He's obviously fucking scum. So is Wiggles. Forget Vivax, these guys make it so obvious that theyre scum. Like, wtf? Also, i dont understand the craze about sciberbia. He has a good rep but honestly, i don't get good vibes from him at all. Although VE is a nulltell, i think a lynch on him would be much more crucial than some random lynch on Ace. He has barely played so far and he gets lynched without even being able to defend himself. WHERE IS THE LOGIC IN THIS TOWN??? 3 Blazinghand 03-21-2013 06:59 PM ET (US) Coag is almost certainly town. He's doing his best to pry apart bad arguments and pressure people for answers, even in his coag-ey way. 2 Blazinghand 03-21-2013 04:12 PM ET (US) so what's up you around or are we just being afk 1 Blazinghand 03-21-2013 01:20 PM ET (US) hello my gentle friend This log is full of nothing but them pretty much saying to each other exactly what they say in the thread. Note that they don't ask each other any questions or interact at all. It strikes me as being very staged. You strike me as being full of shit if you think this is staged. BH asked a bunch of questions, I felt it was completely unnecessary to ask questions back at the time. Plus, nobody in the world has ever talked about my impulsive posting so BH wouldn't even know how to forge a conversation with me.On March 23 2013 06:06 Kenpachi wrote:
I think i should organize myself for once. None of these should be surprising, they're pretty agreeable.
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testsubject###
Teepeeshooter
waveofshadow
coagulation
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Wiggles
DarthPunk
zarepath (intuitive)
My lynch vote for today is Mr. Wiggles. Why? simple, he feigned usefulness here and there and here some more. I posted about his chainlink of questions and in general, he is playing like mafioso wiggles. Is there anything else for me to say WAVEOFSHADOW? Notice how he put "Town" in red. Subconscious slip. Also, notice how all of his mafia are town (I have the benefit of knowing this for 100 percent, but hopefully I am an easy enough town read at this point for the rest of you for this to be as substantial a point from your perspective). omg you got me. Subconscious slip. I didn't laugh so hard in a mafia game in such a long timeOn March 23 2013 22:26 Kenpachi wrote:
I fell asleep on you guys lol. I merely thought DarthPunk was scummy for his push on Goodkarma when goodkarma is one of the least scummiest players in the game at that point tbh. But since BH flipped scum and VE is likely town so I'm inclined to retract my claim off of him. Wasn't Kenpachi the one trying to boldly lynch GK? wow lolThe rest of his filter is complaining about the town being so awful, and him mentioning how awful he is (I haven't read his filter at all lol, I was way off on that guy lol, etc.). This guy looks SCUM.
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nou. I'm done with him i ment
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lol I'm not surprised because this town is literally in the shitters. I'm fairly confident you and Zarepath aren't mafia but I have no idea how you're certain about anyone else at this point.
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Also if I'm not on the town list, then I'm inclined to believe you're full of shit and need to review your work again
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