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I also put my vote on cosmicomics
##Vote: cosmicomics
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Wrong about GK, testsubject and me.
You've got quite the theme going there.
And my single post is probably gonna be more useful than whatever you write this entire cycle if you go on like this.
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How about you read my last post VE?
Here i quote it for you:
+ Show Spoiler +On March 22 2013 19:14 glurio wrote:Nice shot. I looked through WFs early filter: This interaction looks like scum communicating with scum. (Wiggles and WF) + Show Spoiler +On March 17 2013 11:06 Wade Fell wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 11:02 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 17 2013 09:27 Wade Fell wrote:On March 17 2013 09:24 Kenpachi wrote:On March 17 2013 09:22 Wade Fell wrote:On March 17 2013 09:22 Wade Fell wrote:On March 17 2013 09:21 Kenpachi wrote:
Is he a smurf? TPS is almost certainly a smurf. More reason, btw, why his so-called "case" on coag is bad. He should definitely know better. exactly what i was thinking but its a case of WIFOM here and i honestly cant tell. There is a possibility he's a smurf of a younger player who hasn't heard of coag, or he literally made his account just before this game started, just to sign up for the last spot. I consider both of these possibilities somewhat unlikely. And, even considering the apparent vacuousness of his vote on coag, he hasn't taken a stance on GK or Geript or really anyone or anything, ignoring all other discussion in town to tunnel his target. This is an easy way for scum to avoid meaningful interaction with town and giving out reads. We don't know anything about his thought-process, so of course it seems WIFOM-ey-- but his play absolutely prevents us from clearing the wine from in front of us. I'm not saying he's a bad scum player-- this is a clever ruse. But he is scum. Town would have an opinion on GK, ESPECIALLY town pushing another lynch. Can this guy really be considered to be "pushing" coag given that he hasn't tried to stop the GK lynch at all? He's putting forth a simulacrum of what a townie does. Clever, but not enough. The thing about this analysis, is that he hasn't done anything at all since he called out Coag. I think it's disingenuous to say he's tunneling Coag when he made a post calling him out, I asked him if he was familiar with his meta, and he freaked out within a short time frame. I agree that I wouldn't say he's pushing Coag, but we don't know if he's just apathetic to pushing it, or he agrees with other cases since he's gone inactive. So I don't really have warm fuzzy feelings about the guy, but I think your case is somewhat misrepresentative, just because he hasn't posted and it's basing things as though he's actually been around to exhibit that behaviour. He stopped posting 2 hours before the first vote on GK went down, but it's been like 18 hours since then. Where is he? He still hasn't weighed in on Geript either, and Geript was under pressure while he was posting in thread. If he comes back, says he's been gone for 18 hours like grooming a chicken or whatever and he has serious thoughts to give, then I may rethink things. But as it stands, simply straight-up lurking and not posting is NOT a defense for his actions. On March 17 2013 11:06 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I actually kind of get the feeling that Peashooter's just new, but like Kita was saying, and you're implying, if he's a smurf that goes out the window, because he could just be pretending to be new while being experienced.
I think I need to wait for him to post some more to get a more solid read. On March 17 2013 11:07 Wade Fell wrote:
Will your thoughts on him be the same if he's gone for another 6 hours, wiggles? What if he's gone for the rest of the day? On March 17 2013 11:07 Wade Fell wrote:
I too am highly interested in how he will respond to my case and wat's taken place in town since his "departure"
but he is almost certainly a smurf, since the account was created yesterday. On March 17 2013 11:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 11:07 Wade Fell wrote:
Will your thoughts on him be the same if he's gone for another 6 hours, wiggles? What if he's gone for the rest of the day? I have someone else in mind for the lynch, and then a vig can just get rid of him if possible. He has to post sometime. To me this piece of conversation does not look natural at all. It looks to me as if both are treading around very carefully, which is quite unlike WF. On top of that all the other points already raised on wiggles by other people. Sadly his filter doesn't give too much. He was always hardcore tunneling either TPS, TestSubject or VE basically the whole game. I will probably read it again when i'm less tired. I also looked through Vivax's filter, he most likely hit GK with his shot. I could find no breadcrumbs to a sciberia hit, while GK was quite often the focus of his attention. Vivax's scumreads were: zarepath, cosmicomics, Wade Fell, goodkarma, DYH, TrancestormUpon reading on his last few posts his focus at that moment was CC, GK and DYH. In sciberias filter we can find a strong scumread on CC + Show Spoiler +On March 21 2013 13:14 sciberbia wrote:OK we really need to consolidate. I have no idea what the votecount is at, but I'd imagine there are still several votes on VE and Wiggles. For those of us who don't like those two candidates, we need a candidate to consolidate on. ace/GK/testsubject have all been thrown out there, but there are disagreements. Personally, I'm nullish on all 3. You guys have given meta reads on all 3 that I could choose to trust in, but as far as in-thread evidence, I'm nullish. Is ANYONE in the thread right now not at least leaning scum on cosmicomics?Look at how he goes about scum hunting D1: Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 08:45 cosmicomics wrote:On March 17 2013 06:16 layabout wrote:On March 17 2013 05:51 cosmicomics wrote:On March 16 2013 23:42 Vivax wrote:
Sandro:
I don't like this post.
Quick conclusions. No arguments, no read on BH and VE (just being silly) and conclusive reads on people I actually find scummy. Townish reads on a guy who contributed something pointless. Not the sandro I would expect as town. Leaning red.
What does town sandro look like? What do you think of DarthPunk? You can see in the nested quotes that geript drops RNG for setup spec "I thought I couldn't use it from what was said in pregame and the tarot stuff got me interested." and then moves into asking about a different topic "How do you feel about this being based on some sort of tarot stuff?" So DarthPunk is acting as if geript is still attempting his RNG stuff (he isn't) and trying to lynch him off that, and doesn't actually address him. How do you get so mad at someone you totally dismiss his posting so quickly?
##Vote: DarthPunk
Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 07:41 cosmicomics wrote:Sunday is busy day. Still catching up but addressing first things first. On March 17 2013 20:36 DarthPunk wrote:On March 17 2013 08:45 cosmicomics wrote:On March 17 2013 06:16 layabout wrote:On March 17 2013 05:51 cosmicomics wrote:On March 16 2013 23:42 Vivax wrote:
Sandro:
I don't like this post.
Quick conclusions. No arguments, no read on BH and VE (just being silly) and conclusive reads on people I actually find scummy. Townish reads on a guy who contributed something pointless. Not the sandro I would expect as town. Leaning red.
What does town sandro look like? What do you think of DarthPunk? You can see in the nested quotes that geript drops RNG for setup spec "I thought I couldn't use it from what was said in pregame and the tarot stuff got me interested." and then moves into asking about a different topic "How do you feel about this being based on some sort of tarot stuff?" So DarthPunk is acting as if geript is still attempting his RNG stuff (he isn't) and trying to lynch him off that, and doesn't actually address him. How do you get so mad at someone you totally dismiss his posting so quickly?
##Vote: DarthPunk
LoL just cacthing up now. One thing though. I doubt anyone could interpret my vote as anything more than some pressure to stop his RNG bullshit. That's clearly what it was but you claiming that I was trying to lynch him off that is complete BS. I doubt this misinterpretation could be anything but deliberate. ##unvote
##Vote:CosmicomicsExplain how the fuck you think I was actually doing anything more than a pressure vote on someone in order to get them to cease a terrible idea/plan? DarthPunk is caught lying and is trying to backpedal. My post specifically mentioned how geript had already stopped pursuing RNG material. Why would a town pressure vote to stop someone's "terrible idea" if they already stopped doing it in the very post they quoted? There was a slight possibility that DarthPunk was also trying to shut down geript's tarot card speculation, but in this post it is clear that it was not what he was doing. He himself admits that it was pressure to stop RNG. So there is absolutely no town reason why he would do this to geript. The only reason is to misinterpret geript as doing "terrible idea/plans", and try to mislynch him off that. ##Vote: DarthPunk Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 10:07 cosmicomics wrote:On March 18 2013 10:04 DarthPunk wrote:On March 18 2013 09:59 cosmicomics wrote:
DarthPunk, in one sentence, do you think I did anything wrong (from my perspective) thus far? How am I supposed to understand your perspective when it is so obviously detached from anything I can identify with? But Obviously I do. Otherwise I wouldn't have voted for you. So you admit that you yourself (innocently) misinterpreted geript's posts, and I'm scummy for thinking that you misinterpreted him? First of all, he doesn't do any scuhunting when he originally enters the thread. Then, we he was ASKED about DP, he sheeped onto an IMO shitty case and voted him. Respond to question and get your vote down. Two birds with 1 stone amirite. Then, he unvotes DP when the wagon loses steam with almost nonexistant reasoning for thinking DP isn't scum anymore: Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 10:21 cosmicomics wrote:
Yea I don't think DarthPunk is the lynch anymore. Just stubborn, but in a consistent townie way.
Upon review VE's case does look pretty bad.
##Unvote: DarthPunk
I'll be looking into the alternatives to decide. He was continually saying how DP was scum and lying about some stupid shit at the start of the game. But now suddenly DP is stubborn and townie. And VE's case wasn't even the reason CC was voting DP in the first place. VE posted his case after CC voted DP twice. Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 13:47 cosmicomics wrote:
WaveofShadow, could you tone down on the swearing please? It can turn people off (including townies), which will in turn fuel this bandwagon against you, and the worst kind of wagon is one where it is town pushed.
I think it would be most beneficial to everyone if you could consolidate your posting and present your defense against kita's main case. Or build a strong case of your own on somebody. Because right now it is getting more difficult to read you and you are giving scum / good intentioned townies more fuel.
I'll be looking over your meta, the case and the posts in interest in the meantime. This post scummy as mentioned by others. Finally, on D2, CC's big contribution was a massive case on VE. And VE has been the focus of discussion all day. But where is CC? Not here talking about. I pose my question again: Is anyone not at least leaning scum on CCI think that is a very important quality in a consolidation candidate. . So after reading this i would go after the following people in this order: cosmicomics: Both Vivax and sciberia were suspicious of him at the end of the night. High likelihood of being scum. wiggles: weird interaction with Wade Fell, top that with all the cases already against him and we got ourselves a very scummy looking wiggles TranceStorm: + Show Spoiler +On March 19 2013 22:15 TranceStorm wrote:
Hmm. Some thoughts.
I'm inclined to trust Wade Hand. Like scib had said earlier, it would be much safer for a scum mason to simply a) not mason anyone or b) pretend to mason one of his teammates due to the flip of GM.
As per his case on TPS, I've become more and more convinced after reading through TPS' justifications for voting for GM. It is interesting to note that TPS spends more time talking about how he thinks zarepath is scummy. Personally, I think that TPS 'let it play out' over the GM situation so that he couldn't be nailed over strongly leading the GM lynch as he tried to do with Coag. I'll vote for TPS right now.
My opinion on DoYouHas has retracted somewhat. I don't think he's been 'attaching himself to arguments' as I had said earlier anymore.
Also, Wiggo is still super-scummy in my eyes. His behavior during the GM lynch was really bizarre, but the single post I had highlighted earlier isn't sufficient to make me vote for him. I want to see his analysis today. He defended Wade Fell and called Wiggles super scummy, after the WF flip now this looks really scummy but i also believed Wade Fell with his blue claim so i can't damn him really. DYH: vivax was after him so he has reasons to kill vivax, but i'm not quite convinced here and actually had a strong town read on him. My top scumread right now is cosmicomics. I don't think DYH is scum but he should be questioned further. I don't think TranceStorm AND wiggles are scum. But wiggles looks scummier right now.
TLDR: cosmicomics is scum
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On March 22 2013 23:37 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 22:56 glurio wrote:How about you read my last post VE? Here i quote it for you: + Show Spoiler +On March 22 2013 19:14 glurio wrote:Nice shot. I looked through WFs early filter: This interaction looks like scum communicating with scum. (Wiggles and WF) + Show Spoiler +On March 17 2013 11:06 Wade Fell wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 11:02 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 17 2013 09:27 Wade Fell wrote:On March 17 2013 09:24 Kenpachi wrote:On March 17 2013 09:22 Wade Fell wrote:On March 17 2013 09:22 Wade Fell wrote:On March 17 2013 09:21 Kenpachi wrote:
Is he a smurf? TPS is almost certainly a smurf. More reason, btw, why his so-called "case" on coag is bad. He should definitely know better. exactly what i was thinking but its a case of WIFOM here and i honestly cant tell. There is a possibility he's a smurf of a younger player who hasn't heard of coag, or he literally made his account just before this game started, just to sign up for the last spot. I consider both of these possibilities somewhat unlikely. And, even considering the apparent vacuousness of his vote on coag, he hasn't taken a stance on GK or Geript or really anyone or anything, ignoring all other discussion in town to tunnel his target. This is an easy way for scum to avoid meaningful interaction with town and giving out reads. We don't know anything about his thought-process, so of course it seems WIFOM-ey-- but his play absolutely prevents us from clearing the wine from in front of us. I'm not saying he's a bad scum player-- this is a clever ruse. But he is scum. Town would have an opinion on GK, ESPECIALLY town pushing another lynch. Can this guy really be considered to be "pushing" coag given that he hasn't tried to stop the GK lynch at all? He's putting forth a simulacrum of what a townie does. Clever, but not enough. The thing about this analysis, is that he hasn't done anything at all since he called out Coag. I think it's disingenuous to say he's tunneling Coag when he made a post calling him out, I asked him if he was familiar with his meta, and he freaked out within a short time frame. I agree that I wouldn't say he's pushing Coag, but we don't know if he's just apathetic to pushing it, or he agrees with other cases since he's gone inactive. So I don't really have warm fuzzy feelings about the guy, but I think your case is somewhat misrepresentative, just because he hasn't posted and it's basing things as though he's actually been around to exhibit that behaviour. He stopped posting 2 hours before the first vote on GK went down, but it's been like 18 hours since then. Where is he? He still hasn't weighed in on Geript either, and Geript was under pressure while he was posting in thread. If he comes back, says he's been gone for 18 hours like grooming a chicken or whatever and he has serious thoughts to give, then I may rethink things. But as it stands, simply straight-up lurking and not posting is NOT a defense for his actions. On March 17 2013 11:06 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I actually kind of get the feeling that Peashooter's just new, but like Kita was saying, and you're implying, if he's a smurf that goes out the window, because he could just be pretending to be new while being experienced.
I think I need to wait for him to post some more to get a more solid read. On March 17 2013 11:07 Wade Fell wrote:
Will your thoughts on him be the same if he's gone for another 6 hours, wiggles? What if he's gone for the rest of the day? On March 17 2013 11:07 Wade Fell wrote:
I too am highly interested in how he will respond to my case and wat's taken place in town since his "departure"
but he is almost certainly a smurf, since the account was created yesterday. On March 17 2013 11:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 11:07 Wade Fell wrote:
Will your thoughts on him be the same if he's gone for another 6 hours, wiggles? What if he's gone for the rest of the day? I have someone else in mind for the lynch, and then a vig can just get rid of him if possible. He has to post sometime. To me this piece of conversation does not look natural at all. It looks to me as if both are treading around very carefully, which is quite unlike WF. On top of that all the other points already raised on wiggles by other people. Sadly his filter doesn't give too much. He was always hardcore tunneling either TPS, TestSubject or VE basically the whole game. I will probably read it again when i'm less tired. I also looked through Vivax's filter, he most likely hit GK with his shot. I could find no breadcrumbs to a sciberia hit, while GK was quite often the focus of his attention. Vivax's scumreads were: zarepath, cosmicomics, Wade Fell, goodkarma, DYH, TrancestormUpon reading on his last few posts his focus at that moment was CC, GK and DYH. In sciberias filter we can find a strong scumread on CC + Show Spoiler +On March 21 2013 13:14 sciberbia wrote:OK we really need to consolidate. I have no idea what the votecount is at, but I'd imagine there are still several votes on VE and Wiggles. For those of us who don't like those two candidates, we need a candidate to consolidate on. ace/GK/testsubject have all been thrown out there, but there are disagreements. Personally, I'm nullish on all 3. You guys have given meta reads on all 3 that I could choose to trust in, but as far as in-thread evidence, I'm nullish. Is ANYONE in the thread right now not at least leaning scum on cosmicomics?Look at how he goes about scum hunting D1: Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 08:45 cosmicomics wrote:On March 17 2013 06:16 layabout wrote:On March 17 2013 05:51 cosmicomics wrote:On March 16 2013 23:42 Vivax wrote:
Sandro:
I don't like this post.
Quick conclusions. No arguments, no read on BH and VE (just being silly) and conclusive reads on people I actually find scummy. Townish reads on a guy who contributed something pointless. Not the sandro I would expect as town. Leaning red.
What does town sandro look like? What do you think of DarthPunk? You can see in the nested quotes that geript drops RNG for setup spec "I thought I couldn't use it from what was said in pregame and the tarot stuff got me interested." and then moves into asking about a different topic "How do you feel about this being based on some sort of tarot stuff?" So DarthPunk is acting as if geript is still attempting his RNG stuff (he isn't) and trying to lynch him off that, and doesn't actually address him. How do you get so mad at someone you totally dismiss his posting so quickly?
##Vote: DarthPunk
Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 07:41 cosmicomics wrote:Sunday is busy day. Still catching up but addressing first things first. On March 17 2013 20:36 DarthPunk wrote:On March 17 2013 08:45 cosmicomics wrote:On March 17 2013 06:16 layabout wrote:On March 17 2013 05:51 cosmicomics wrote:On March 16 2013 23:42 Vivax wrote:
Sandro:
I don't like this post.
Quick conclusions. No arguments, no read on BH and VE (just being silly) and conclusive reads on people I actually find scummy. Townish reads on a guy who contributed something pointless. Not the sandro I would expect as town. Leaning red.
What does town sandro look like? What do you think of DarthPunk? You can see in the nested quotes that geript drops RNG for setup spec "I thought I couldn't use it from what was said in pregame and the tarot stuff got me interested." and then moves into asking about a different topic "How do you feel about this being based on some sort of tarot stuff?" So DarthPunk is acting as if geript is still attempting his RNG stuff (he isn't) and trying to lynch him off that, and doesn't actually address him. How do you get so mad at someone you totally dismiss his posting so quickly?
##Vote: DarthPunk
LoL just cacthing up now. One thing though. I doubt anyone could interpret my vote as anything more than some pressure to stop his RNG bullshit. That's clearly what it was but you claiming that I was trying to lynch him off that is complete BS. I doubt this misinterpretation could be anything but deliberate. ##unvote
##Vote:CosmicomicsExplain how the fuck you think I was actually doing anything more than a pressure vote on someone in order to get them to cease a terrible idea/plan? DarthPunk is caught lying and is trying to backpedal. My post specifically mentioned how geript had already stopped pursuing RNG material. Why would a town pressure vote to stop someone's "terrible idea" if they already stopped doing it in the very post they quoted? There was a slight possibility that DarthPunk was also trying to shut down geript's tarot card speculation, but in this post it is clear that it was not what he was doing. He himself admits that it was pressure to stop RNG. So there is absolutely no town reason why he would do this to geript. The only reason is to misinterpret geript as doing "terrible idea/plans", and try to mislynch him off that. ##Vote: DarthPunk Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 10:07 cosmicomics wrote:On March 18 2013 10:04 DarthPunk wrote:On March 18 2013 09:59 cosmicomics wrote:
DarthPunk, in one sentence, do you think I did anything wrong (from my perspective) thus far? How am I supposed to understand your perspective when it is so obviously detached from anything I can identify with? But Obviously I do. Otherwise I wouldn't have voted for you. So you admit that you yourself (innocently) misinterpreted geript's posts, and I'm scummy for thinking that you misinterpreted him? First of all, he doesn't do any scuhunting when he originally enters the thread. Then, we he was ASKED about DP, he sheeped onto an IMO shitty case and voted him. Respond to question and get your vote down. Two birds with 1 stone amirite. Then, he unvotes DP when the wagon loses steam with almost nonexistant reasoning for thinking DP isn't scum anymore: Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 10:21 cosmicomics wrote:
Yea I don't think DarthPunk is the lynch anymore. Just stubborn, but in a consistent townie way.
Upon review VE's case does look pretty bad.
##Unvote: DarthPunk
I'll be looking into the alternatives to decide. He was continually saying how DP was scum and lying about some stupid shit at the start of the game. But now suddenly DP is stubborn and townie. And VE's case wasn't even the reason CC was voting DP in the first place. VE posted his case after CC voted DP twice. Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 13:47 cosmicomics wrote:
WaveofShadow, could you tone down on the swearing please? It can turn people off (including townies), which will in turn fuel this bandwagon against you, and the worst kind of wagon is one where it is town pushed.
I think it would be most beneficial to everyone if you could consolidate your posting and present your defense against kita's main case. Or build a strong case of your own on somebody. Because right now it is getting more difficult to read you and you are giving scum / good intentioned townies more fuel.
I'll be looking over your meta, the case and the posts in interest in the meantime. This post scummy as mentioned by others. Finally, on D2, CC's big contribution was a massive case on VE. And VE has been the focus of discussion all day. But where is CC? Not here talking about. I pose my question again: Is anyone not at least leaning scum on CCI think that is a very important quality in a consolidation candidate. . So after reading this i would go after the following people in this order: cosmicomics: Both Vivax and sciberia were suspicious of him at the end of the night. High likelihood of being scum. wiggles: weird interaction with Wade Fell, top that with all the cases already against him and we got ourselves a very scummy looking wiggles TranceStorm: + Show Spoiler +On March 19 2013 22:15 TranceStorm wrote:
Hmm. Some thoughts.
I'm inclined to trust Wade Hand. Like scib had said earlier, it would be much safer for a scum mason to simply a) not mason anyone or b) pretend to mason one of his teammates due to the flip of GM.
As per his case on TPS, I've become more and more convinced after reading through TPS' justifications for voting for GM. It is interesting to note that TPS spends more time talking about how he thinks zarepath is scummy. Personally, I think that TPS 'let it play out' over the GM situation so that he couldn't be nailed over strongly leading the GM lynch as he tried to do with Coag. I'll vote for TPS right now.
My opinion on DoYouHas has retracted somewhat. I don't think he's been 'attaching himself to arguments' as I had said earlier anymore.
Also, Wiggo is still super-scummy in my eyes. His behavior during the GM lynch was really bizarre, but the single post I had highlighted earlier isn't sufficient to make me vote for him. I want to see his analysis today. He defended Wade Fell and called Wiggles super scummy, after the WF flip now this looks really scummy but i also believed Wade Fell with his blue claim so i can't damn him really. DYH: vivax was after him so he has reasons to kill vivax, but i'm not quite convinced here and actually had a strong town read on him. My top scumread right now is cosmicomics. I don't think DYH is scum but he should be questioned further. I don't think TranceStorm AND wiggles are scum. But wiggles looks scummier right now. TLDR: cosmicomics is scum I read it. You also seem to be red on Wiggles, yet your vote is on CC in spite of there already being support for a Wiggles wagon. So its like...I don't care what you say right now. You're not willing to discuss anything with town ("Read my post" instead of "Do you disagree with me?") so why should I be willing to discuss anything with you?
Because i think CC is the safer bet right now. If everyone else would rather lynch wiggles i won't have a problem consolidating on him.
Well i feel like no one bothers to read my posts this whole game, so i was a bit pissed. I'm certainly open for discussion.
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Well i'll consolidate on Wiggles. Still think we should lynch CC next.
Now i have to defend myself i think. I usually hate to do that, but then again i usually get mislynched.
First the case kita brought up:
+ Show Spoiler +On March 24 2013 03:46 kitaman27 wrote:Hmm I was planning about writing a case against TranceStorm, but there isn't much sense in spending time convincing everyone that a dead man was mafia. In response to Wiggles, you act as if I just decided to switch over to GreYMisT without mentioning him at all. I expressed a scum read on him several times, but of course you choose to ignore this. I was the first one to attack him for his "trap" when he returned to the thread and you referenced my questioning of this trap several times yourself in your own decision to vote GreYMisT so surely you should remember this. Rather than respond to any of the reasoning I've brought up against you, you decide to quote a few one-liners at a point where I had worked a 12 hour day and had no free time. Now, rather than voting your strongest scumread, you've decided to push the only alternative for your own survival. The reads you provide are non-specific, something I'd expect from a mafia player who is about to flip, but doesn't want his reads to be used against him. Not much more to say here. For tomorrow, someone I think we should be looking at is glurio. To start the game, he posts suspicion against coag, stating that coag is useless, without actually calling coag scummy. Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 03:16 glurio wrote:On March 18 2013 03:12 Coagulation wrote:
glurio your defending him pretty hard for someone who may have scum slipped. I don't think he's scum. I'd much rather lynch you, you're absolutely useless so far. How about spending the time scumhunting? Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 03:46 glurio wrote:
On a different note: i really want to lynch coag. Rather than actually voting for coag, he votes for DP, a player he never actually mentions in the thread. It's not like DP was more of a lynch-able candidate as there were only 2 votes on him. During the first cycle, he never actually mentions GreYMisT, which is significant considering he was the main lynch candidate for the day. He soft defends BH, without actually providing a reason why he doesn't have a scum read on him. With the day two vote, he votes for Mocsta as the lone vote. At no point in the cycle does he try to convince others to vote Mocsta, only that he was going with his "gut". After the BH flip, he explains how BH's interaction with Wiggles is scum-to-scum conversation, yet decides to vote cosmicomics. Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 02:17 glurio wrote:
Well i feel like no one bothers to read my posts this whole game, so i was a bit pissed. I'm certainly open for discussion. Glurio complains that no one listens to him, but on day one and two there was actually nothing to listen to. How are we supposed to be convinced by his posts if his only explanation is his gut? Overall, Glurio feels like an observer this game, looking to stay under the radar and lacks the town motivation to push a lynch. It seems that he cares more about survival and doing his own thing, voting for players that have no chance of being lynched. He would be a good lynch candidate tomorrow.
Yes coag looked very scummy, but everyone put it down to "meta" and they had a town read, no one even considered a coag lynch. So why push something which clearly wouldn't happen anyway?
Vivax even told me to not bother playing coag's weird gameplay so i let it go.
I put my vote on DP because he seemed like the best candidate at the time i voted, i liked VE's case on him.
I wasn't back till after the lynch so i didn't change my vote or comment on GM.
I have no idea where i should have soft-defended WF tbh.
I voted Mocsta because the only other viable candidate at the time was VE in my eyes but i didn't think he was scum. Ace lynch and shit was all brought up when i wasn't arround.
Also my vote on cosmicomics was explained pretty well. Since i made a big post with my current scumreads i also wrote later that i found cosmicomics to be the safer alternative for lynch because i was a bit more sure on him being scum then on wiggles.
About the feeling no one reading my post was for example the case on WoS i made. No one even bothered commenting on it.
Final note: i voted D1 for a player who i thought was scum D1 and had, at that time, a pretty good chance of being lynched. On D2 i admit the chance mocsta would be lynched was pretty slim, but i couldn't consolidate on VE since i didn't believe he is scum. (Which i explained why in my post.) But i wanted to get Mocsta back into the game and playing serious. All he got was pissed, didn't work out it seems.
My D3 lynch (CC) i think i made a pretty good case on him, but it seems like wiggles is set to be lynched so i'll consolidate on him.
##Unvote: cosmicomics
##Vote: wiggles
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Well didn't think that would happen.
Can we lynch cosmicomics now please?
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Why are your checks so terrible? Vivax was a crappy target for a check, no one doubted he was town, so was VE. Why not check some people who we actually think are scum at this point?
You tunneled me the whole game and didn't check me? Why?
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On March 26 2013 01:13 TestSubject893 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2013 23:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
So I didn't even get a roleblock PM last night, dunno wtf is up with that considering the same thing happened as night 2 where my target died. I targeted VE.
As I promised I will be re-reading and looking into everyone; specifically zare and glurio today. VE is literally the worst person you could have checked. This is all too much to let slide. You've played exactly like a scum would if they fake claimed, so if you're town you've only got yourself to blame for us mislynching today. ##Vote: WaveofShadowWe're killing cosicomics tomorrow if we have it my way.
As an aside, I think that The Mirror must be mafia aligned since they clearly didn't fear that VE was perma-bulletproof like the logs implied.
What about you? Only had one bullet?
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You still have a scum read on me even after i posted a case on CC, which is my #1 scumread at the moment, kita?
I'd like to see how you plan to make that work.
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Layabout, WoS what is your take on the whole CC vs kita discussion?
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I'll vote cosmicomics today. He couldn't convince me he is town.
Since i'm moving tomorrow i won't be here for the night cycle.
We should really look into layabout tomorrow.
And geript stop tunneling so hardcore, while i agree that WoS isn't confirmed there are much better people to tunnel right now.
In a 25 player game the standard number of scum is 5, also usually scum player/2 = KP, since they always had 2KP 5 is the most likely number of starting scum in the game.
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Forgot to post:
##Vote: cosmicomics
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On my phone hardly time to post.
In case i die listen to DP! Hes got it right.
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I want to lynch kita or ryu today. Will read filter later to see which one looks scummier.
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Yeah we need to lynch ryu, he stopped making sense.
Sorry for my short posts and general lack of activity, i moved yesterday and only have internet at uni or gfs house.
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I will vote kita for now. Because i believe hes very likely scum, after a brief review of ryus filter, mostly the time around ccs lynch i'm not so sure on him anymore. Will further review the filters of both kita and ryu later tonight.
Right now i place my vote on kita.
##Vote: kita
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What i like of everyone is a read on kita and ryu, i'm satisfied with a one word read. (i.e. scum/town/null)
Just to see if anyone even thinks one of them as town.
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Don't think DYH is scum.
Really can't see anything really groundbreaking and/or convincing about your case WoS. Sorry.
How about your thoughts on kita or ryu?
Ryus blatant sheeping onto that weak case on DYH i find pretty alarming.
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Sad but true. I still prefer kita lynch though.
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Still asking the question: has anyone a town read on kita? Anyone? Why not lynch him? You all think DP was wrong?
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