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On March 16 2013 16:36 DarthPunk wrote: Yeah I really like this actually. What Gives? I thought I couldn't use it from what was said in pregame and the tarot stuff got me interested. How do you feel about this being based on some sort of tarot stuff? | ||
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On March 16 2013 22:13 zarepath wrote: And one final thought: sciberbia was quick to point out that VE's tarot cards and Peashooter's speculation aren't that scummy (but I disagree and say they are more scummy than anything else so far, btw), and VE makes a good point in response: On March 16 2013 18:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Interesting. Out of everyone who has posted, you are by far the most verbose. I expect you will be equally verbose when describing things you DO find scummy. First off, I dislike the fact that you mix up my tarot card thoughts and place them on VE. The thing that doesn't make sense to me whatsoever is how this post flows. I'm not seeing the jump in logic between either the setup speculation being scummy Or how VE's post leads directly from that. It's a subtle transition from X+Y are scummy into it's useless. Then yoy transfer into: On March 16 2013 22:13 zarepath wrote: So in the end, I currently have my eyes on Coagulation, Peashooter, VE, and sciberbia. I will take a more serious look at geript later. I'm not getting the logic jump here either. There isn't any real reason listed. There's no reason to expect to be able to jump straight to fucking without a little foreplay. How do you explain this Zare? Why make a nothing post? | ||
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On March 17 2013 06:54 zarepath wrote: The VE quote at the end wasn't meant to suggest VE was scummy, but to suggest that he made a good point about sciberbia's contributions thus far.[/QUOTE] So then what did you think of his points against me? You put me on null. He put me on scum. Besides, if you liked his points then why would you be: [B]On March 16 2013 22:13 zarepath wrote: So in the end, I currently have my eyes on Coagulation, Peashooter, VE, and sciberbia. I will take a more serious look at geript later. The only thing I'm seeing from you is: null here, null there, scum for a bad reason here, scum for a bad reason there, null, null. Why so lazy and unconcerned? | ||
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On February 11 2013 23:41 zarepath wrote: Yeah, this feels a lot like the last time we mislynched warbaby so far. I'm not saying there's nothing there, but it is very easy to rile this guy up and get confirmation bias. We still have a lot of Day 1 left and a lot of people to consider still, and I think that if warbaby's detractors are satisfied with the evidence in his defense, we should look at some other people and allow warbaby to take a step back himself and make some of his own reads. If by the end of the day, you still think warbaby is the scummiest, go ahead and make a case and vote for him. But let's proactively avoid tunnel visioning here. He also made a completely fake case on WoS which included: On February 12 2013 00:38 zarepath wrote: A few things here. WaveofShadow takes upon himself the mantle of being the Reasonable Break-It-Up! Guy, even though people have already moved on. It's not Being Town, it's Acting Town. Also note the insinuation that nothing in the thread so far has been worthy of contribution -- the scumhunting hasn't started yet, according to him. He simultaneously puts himself up as Pro-Town and everyone before him as Anti-Town. It's all posturing, zero substance. The bolded section referenced a part where WoS had referred to it as "my town" and someone called him out on it. I don't see any evidence from that game that Zarepath thought that claiming or not claiming town was in anyway alignment indicative. I also don't see how he would've formed a different opinion on the matter as I'm not aware of other games he's played in the mean time. The Zarepath that I remember from NMM37 was reasonable and interacted with the thread more. This Zarepath looks intentionally dense. I'm personally pissed that Sciberbia stole my thunder. Zarepath is SCUM. Next, WoS get your ass in here. Looking into the GK and GM stuff now. | ||
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Also, VE I'm not getting the case on GK. GM looks far more scummy to me; can you please explain why GK's a better target? | ||
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On March 18 2013 00:40 VisceraEyes wrote: WTF is this? I've explained my reasoning for every vote I've made. If you don't like my explanation fine, but nothing I've posted has been "just random bullshit". Look, my reaction to the SAST thing is that it was either going to be awesome or retarded. It also seemed to lock players votes together in a disadvantageous way in that it prevented players from throwing their weight around with the vote. But once you got back and explained it, the concept made more sense to me. I just didn't think that GK's response was malicious and that you blew it out of proportion. I'm not seeing your point on TPS. The requoting thing seems like such a ticky-tack thing to be voting for someone for so it seems like BS. Do you have any actual intention of talking about Zarepath? | ||
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On March 17 2013 06:54 zarepath wrote: I did mix up your tarot card comment with VE because he mentioned something about them later, I think. I looked through your filter, geript, and I liked your comment about coddling Coag and figured you were null for now. Didn't even Dr.H point out the that natural reaction to get to after going through a filter and arriving at null for town is to go through another filter? Sciberbia's case is good. There's almost no movement from him whatsoever; just random statements. When he's suspicious of someone he's not interacting with the thread at all when pressure is on that person. It's like he's watching the game from a window. Hell, he even didn't like the warbaby lynch in NMM 37, which you coached scum in, but here he's null on everything it seems. He's lied about every scum claiming town in the first post as it was actually most of the town players who soft and/or hard claimed town in the mid-stages of day 1. He's not showing any town motivation that I've seen whatsoever. His meta's off from 37. And the survival mentality is in his posts throughout. | ||
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On March 17 2013 14:53 GreYMisT wrote: TestSubject really hasn't said much of anything (hypocritical from me right?). The main thing that stands out to me about him is that a significant exchange between him and Wade Fell took place regarding punishing bad town play. TestSubject supports this argument with his main entrance post, calling for pressure against Coag. However, He doesnt attempt to pressure him at all, and really fails to significantly mention him. This is the post that made GM suspicious to me. The internal logic of it is just mindboggling to me. He's calling out Test for calling for pressure for Coag but for not pressuring him. Then he goes on to do the exact same thing: On March 17 2013 14:53 GreYMisT wrote: I can see where he is coming from with his read on zare, but overally Test doesnt seem like the best lynch candidate to me at the moment. This reads as he thinks of Test as a possible lynch candidate but he doesn't go on to pressure him at all. Moreso, he doesn't even go on to pressure his #1 lynch target and instead looks to pick a fight with him. There's only a short response to VE regarding Test and then that matter is dropped entirely. On March 17 2013 14:38 GreYMisT wrote: I can tell you why, Its because my lack of thread presence, to a scum player, would basically have them salivating for a day 1 miss lynch. I am an easy, low risk lynch with almost no thread presence to back myself up. I find this post suspicious because it is a cookie cutter, "here are a few reads" post that has no interaction with other players, no real pushing, no new information, and in my eyes makes more sense from a scum perspective than a town one. I get the logic of this, but the only "thread presence" person I see GM really attacking in his filter is Vivax. But that's only after VE states he could get behind it and after Vivax was already under pressure for the scumslip. There's something that feels very off about VE this game. In LX he seemed focused and single minded trying to apply pressure like a hammer. In this game it's like he's looking more to find reasons not to lynch someone than reasons to lynch someone. It just feels very unlike LX in that in LX I got the sense D1 that he was actively pursuing things yet here he's just trying to softly bounce things around until he finds the right target. Overall, I prefer GM to Zare. | ||
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On March 18 2013 10:04 sciberbia wrote: If someone is scum, we should lynch them. Play to win. I recall a post you made yesterday where you said, and i quote, "zarepath is SCUM", and he has certainly not done any town-telling since then. I am not disagreeing with you on any point here. But in LX Jungle Jorge/Sandroba put a vote on Vivax saying my lynch was stupid. My lynch was already set. I followed suit hoping others would do the same thing and at least listen to him. Instead I think everyone including Grush said it was the scummiest vote ever. Everyone. I wasn't in a good mindest and didn't play to my win con then. I'm not going to do that now. I can understand Zare being in a similar position and acting irrationally. That makes it worth risking a day. I believe the points on GM make him scummy. Additionally I trust Sandroba's reads more than anyone else's in general. And Sandroba called him scummy. | ||
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