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On March 27 2013 12:37 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 12:09 layabout wrote:
DarthPunk do you mind telling me where you stand, it's getting quite late? Whether you have been busy or not you have provided nothing relevant since day2 and much of your posting on day2 was insubstantial. For all your early aggression you have simply sheeped onto wagons with little effort or evidence of thought. In the only analysissy type post of yours since day 2 + Show Spoiler +On March 25 2013 14:15 DarthPunk wrote:Hi I've been reading the thread but to be honest I am pretty disheartened with the whole situation. For what it's worth I have a solid town read on Wave of shadow. Somethings I didn't;t like recently. Show nested quote +On March 25 2013 03:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys I'm back. Reading now
gerpit: it had flavor - but it was implicit that I took a hit. This is the second time Viscera Eyes has said something similar to this and just disappeared afterwards. These false promises of activity are really scummy. VE was a really really solid scum read of mine until his claim. I think it would have been retarded to fake claim by holding back KP day one. But not impossible. He is a question that needs to be solved. But honestly I am too worried about mislynching to take a risk on VE. Maybe he is the best choice. IDK. The other thing I didn;t like was this. Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 21:12 zarepath wrote: I know I was voting for cosmicomics, but after reading Wiggles' filter I'd thought he wouldn't be that bad of a lynch, either. Honestly, that guy needs to flip soon. It seems as though nobody is really willing to talk about him. Does anybody have a town read on him, and why? Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 22:03 glurio wrote:
Well didn't think that would happen.
Can we lynch cosmicomics now please? These kind of posts are super weird after we mislynched again. When I mislynch three times in a row my confidence is shot. I double and triple think every read because I am worried about mis-lynching again. So when people come straight out after a mislynch like that fearlessly wanting to lynch into lynch bait. It worries me immensely. You call VE scummy after who had stated he could not be scum in your opinion. Why would you call a player scummy if you don't think that player could be scum? I makes no sense if your town. But if your mafia it benefits you to cast doubt whenever you can. Oh and your vote on me was horsemanure i only ignored you because i didn't want to introduce another candidate. It seems a Kitaman lynch is off the cards and cosmic isn't mafia. Lynching a survivor does nothing to reduce mafia KP and it will let them get more shots off. ##vote DarthPunk
I admit I have played terrible. But now is not the time to lynch people for that.
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On March 27 2013 12:53 cosmicomics wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 12:45 DarthPunk wrote:
At the moment I am looking at a kita lynch as kita has only made very constructed and crafted posts. Has not posted a lot but enough to come off as townie. Has flown under the radar and pushed cases on a townie/3rd party every time.
Also Kita has posted good and reasonable cases. And a lot of them. So it doesn;t make any snese for kita to be alive and coag and VE to die last night.
So yeah. At the moment I am looking at a kita lynch.
The knave panics!
LOL I can't tell if you or I are going to look worse when I flip town.
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On March 27 2013 12:58 cosmicomics wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 12:54 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 12:53 cosmicomics wrote:On March 27 2013 12:45 DarthPunk wrote:
At the moment I am looking at a kita lynch as kita has only made very constructed and crafted posts. Has not posted a lot but enough to come off as townie. Has flown under the radar and pushed cases on a townie/3rd party every time.
Also Kita has posted good and reasonable cases. And a lot of them. So it doesn;t make any snese for kita to be alive and coag and VE to die last night.
So yeah. At the moment I am looking at a kita lynch.
The knave panics! LOL I can't tell if you or I are going to look worse when I flip town. Haha, me neither, since you know, dead people tend to look bad when they flip town ... lol you serious?
The fact that people think I am scum means I Failed in probably the most important part of town play. Also. I have played like shit. So yeah I am going to look bad.
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On March 27 2013 13:09 kitaman27 wrote:
dp, your number one mafia read in layabout suddenly comes up with a fake claim, wants to lynch you, and you buy into it? Why would you believe a word they say if you thought he was scum prior to the claim?
Because there is absolutely ZERO reason for scum to fake claim right now. They are clearly winning. So why just throw away two scum members for no reason?
It makes no sense at all for mafia to fake claim. It makes perfect sense for 3rd party to help town right now because we are in an awful position. That is why I believe the claim. No one should not believe the claim. Yourself and Ryo are basically claiming scum right now.
##Vote: Kitaman27
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On March 27 2013 13:21 kitaman27 wrote:
Hey look, cosmic goes from a mafia read, realizes I won't be lynched, switches to a null read on me and a mafia read on DP, realizes that DP wants to lynch me, and now is back to a mafia read on me. How convenient.
Wave, there was absolutely no reason for cosmic not to fake claim at this point.
There was a 95% chance that he was getting lynched so he claims third party and tries to move the lynch elsewhere. If he is scum before, he is about to die and needs to find a way out of it, what reason is there to believe a word he says?
It seems that all of a sudden you care a lot more than about the lynch than You have previously. I am pretty sure you are scum now kita. and if I am wrong. Well. I apologise.
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On March 27 2013 13:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well fuck I wrote up a post and it got deleted. Essentially what layabout just said though was what I was getting at.
I find the claim fairly believable actually since I don't see scum getting two mason roles while we only get one. Layabout does your role have a name as well?
And as far as a kita lynch goes, it doesn't feel good to me at all...I gotta look into this.
Just look at how he has flown under the radar. All his contributions have been giant crafted cases on townies or 3rd party.
Also he never interacts with blazing hand ONCE this game. He defends his mason claim and taht's about it. He never mentions a read on BH at all DESPITE BH having such a large impact on the game. aside from one post defending BH's mason claim. he has no interaction or mention of BH until after the vig shot where he says BH was spammy and nice shot.
I got One. Kita is scum.
##LYNCH: KITA
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All townies. Read kita's filter and look for mentions/interactions with Blazinghand. Realize we have caught scum, and lynch this kid.
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On March 27 2013 13:32 RyuSuzaku wrote:
So, DP is really scum after all?
loooool
You are scum and you are next.
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On March 27 2013 13:41 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 13:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
So a Dreamer?
Can you confirm that you die if cosmic does, because that's not what your last post makes it seem like. Their fake claims don't even line up. cosmic claims that when one of them dies, they both die. layabout claims that he was town, was converted to third party, and would be converted back to town if cosmic dies.
generally Mafia fake claims do not have all the perceived inconsistencies that this claim has. This claim makes no sense for scum. It makes sense for third party. Do I think that they win with town. NO. But I believe that they realise that without their help town loses. So for the moment it is in our mutual interest to work together.
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On March 27 2013 13:47 RyuSuzaku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:41 kitaman27 wrote:On March 27 2013 13:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
So a Dreamer?
Can you confirm that you die if cosmic does, because that's not what your last post makes it seem like. Their fake claims don't even line up. cosmic claims that when one of them dies, they both die. layabout claims that he was town, was converted to third party, and would be converted back to town if cosmic dies. generally Mafia fake claims do not have all the perceived inconsistencies that this claim has. This claim makes no sense for scum. It makes sense for third party. Do I think that they win with town. NO. But I believe that they realise that without their help town loses. So for the moment it is in our mutual interest to work together. this is scum logic. Who claims 3 hours before deadline to save themselves? Scum. Who paddles back and forth between calling someone scum and voting someone else to simply live? Scum. Scum most probably has found an opportunity to win with mislynching town today. If scum lynches town and there are still 2 KP left then we're in a very bad spot. The argument "do I believe X wins with town? No" Should ALWAYS be followed by "thus I want to lynch X," yet we see here that miraculously DP has somehow come to the conclusion that we should not lynch this nontown player. I don't believe DP is stupid enough as town to do this, so he must be scum.
No. that is bullshit. there are situations were it is in the best interest for town to work with third party. namely, when town is in the shit. At the moment lynching 'not town' doesn't cut it. We need to lynch mafia. and if you were town you would understand that.
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On March 27 2013 13:51 RyuSuzaku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 13:50 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:47 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:41 kitaman27 wrote:On March 27 2013 13:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
So a Dreamer?
Can you confirm that you die if cosmic does, because that's not what your last post makes it seem like. Their fake claims don't even line up. cosmic claims that when one of them dies, they both die. layabout claims that he was town, was converted to third party, and would be converted back to town if cosmic dies. generally Mafia fake claims do not have all the perceived inconsistencies that this claim has. This claim makes no sense for scum. It makes sense for third party. Do I think that they win with town. NO. But I believe that they realise that without their help town loses. So for the moment it is in our mutual interest to work together. this is scum logic. Who claims 3 hours before deadline to save themselves? Scum. Who paddles back and forth between calling someone scum and voting someone else to simply live? Scum. Scum most probably has found an opportunity to win with mislynching town today. If scum lynches town and there are still 2 KP left then we're in a very bad spot. The argument "do I believe X wins with town? No" Should ALWAYS be followed by "thus I want to lynch X," yet we see here that miraculously DP has somehow come to the conclusion that we should not lynch this nontown player. I don't believe DP is stupid enough as town to do this, so he must be scum. No. that is bullshit. there are situations were it is in the best interest for town to work with third party. namely, when town is in the shit. At the moment lynching 'not town' doesn't cut it. We need to lynch mafia. and if you were town you would understand that. false. At any point where town can win, the only time it doesn't matter who you side with is when you've already lost, aka kingmaker. In all other situations it's optimal to lynch CONFIRMED NONTOWN. You are not this stupid, and if you truly are then in postgame I will make sure everyone knows how much of a noob you are.
Obviously I am this stupid. If you are going to call me a noob at least do it without the veil of anonymity to hide behind.
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On March 27 2013 13:54 RyuSuzaku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 13:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 27 2013 13:51 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:50 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:47 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:41 kitaman27 wrote:On March 27 2013 13:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
So a Dreamer?
Can you confirm that you die if cosmic does, because that's not what your last post makes it seem like. Their fake claims don't even line up. cosmic claims that when one of them dies, they both die. layabout claims that he was town, was converted to third party, and would be converted back to town if cosmic dies. generally Mafia fake claims do not have all the perceived inconsistencies that this claim has. This claim makes no sense for scum. It makes sense for third party. Do I think that they win with town. NO. But I believe that they realise that without their help town loses. So for the moment it is in our mutual interest to work together. this is scum logic. Who claims 3 hours before deadline to save themselves? Scum. Who paddles back and forth between calling someone scum and voting someone else to simply live? Scum. Scum most probably has found an opportunity to win with mislynching town today. If scum lynches town and there are still 2 KP left then we're in a very bad spot. The argument "do I believe X wins with town? No" Should ALWAYS be followed by "thus I want to lynch X," yet we see here that miraculously DP has somehow come to the conclusion that we should not lynch this nontown player. I don't believe DP is stupid enough as town to do this, so he must be scum. No. that is bullshit. there are situations were it is in the best interest for town to work with third party. namely, when town is in the shit. At the moment lynching 'not town' doesn't cut it. We need to lynch mafia. and if you were town you would understand that. false. At any point where town can win, the only time it doesn't matter who you side with is when you've already lost, aka kingmaker. In all other situations it's optimal to lynch CONFIRMED NONTOWN. You are not this stupid, and if you truly are then in postgame I will make sure everyone knows how much of a noob you are. Sorry dude, you're wrong this time. Mafia absolutely needs to die today BECAUSE THEY LOSE A KP. Now how exactly will you be proving that DP is a noob? what the fuck are you talking about, we don't even know mafia counts. 1 mafia is dead, if mafia count is 5 and KP is rounded up then we need to kill TWO mafia to reduce KP. Unless, of course, you know more than I do.
no. because if that was the case we lost a kp night one for no reason.
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On March 27 2013 13:57 kitaman27 wrote:
Anyone find it amusing how cosmic and layabout had DarthPunk as their number one scum read, then DarthPunk suddenly decides to vote me, and they don't blink an eye swapping back to vote with their mafia read?
I was being exceptionally useless. Then I ceased to be useless and they changed their mind. That is not scummy.
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On March 27 2013 13:58 RyuSuzaku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 13:56 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:54 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 27 2013 13:51 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:50 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:47 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:41 kitaman27 wrote:On March 27 2013 13:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
So a Dreamer?
Can you confirm that you die if cosmic does, because that's not what your last post makes it seem like. Their fake claims don't even line up. cosmic claims that when one of them dies, they both die. layabout claims that he was town, was converted to third party, and would be converted back to town if cosmic dies. generally Mafia fake claims do not have all the perceived inconsistencies that this claim has. This claim makes no sense for scum. It makes sense for third party. Do I think that they win with town. NO. But I believe that they realise that without their help town loses. So for the moment it is in our mutual interest to work together. this is scum logic. Who claims 3 hours before deadline to save themselves? Scum. Who paddles back and forth between calling someone scum and voting someone else to simply live? Scum. Scum most probably has found an opportunity to win with mislynching town today. If scum lynches town and there are still 2 KP left then we're in a very bad spot. The argument "do I believe X wins with town? No" Should ALWAYS be followed by "thus I want to lynch X," yet we see here that miraculously DP has somehow come to the conclusion that we should not lynch this nontown player. I don't believe DP is stupid enough as town to do this, so he must be scum. No. that is bullshit. there are situations were it is in the best interest for town to work with third party. namely, when town is in the shit. At the moment lynching 'not town' doesn't cut it. We need to lynch mafia. and if you were town you would understand that. false. At any point where town can win, the only time it doesn't matter who you side with is when you've already lost, aka kingmaker. In all other situations it's optimal to lynch CONFIRMED NONTOWN. You are not this stupid, and if you truly are then in postgame I will make sure everyone knows how much of a noob you are. Sorry dude, you're wrong this time. Mafia absolutely needs to die today BECAUSE THEY LOSE A KP. Now how exactly will you be proving that DP is a noob? what the fuck are you talking about, we don't even know mafia counts. 1 mafia is dead, if mafia count is 5 and KP is rounded up then we need to kill TWO mafia to reduce KP. Unless, of course, you know more than I do. no. because if that was the case we lost a kp night one for no reason. LOL guess you're not reading the thread. Remember when VE THE VET flipped last night? He claimed a shot night 1. Jesus. There was 2 KP last night, and we can reasonably assume there was 2 KP on n2 given that 4 players died and we can trace that to TPS and probably Vivax. Which means SCUM PROBABLY HAVE 2 KP. Fucking christ if you are town this is mind numbing.
you KNOW I am town.
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On March 27 2013 14:00 RyuSuzaku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 13:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ryu, rounded down bro.
I've literally posted this like 3 times and people like you and Geript constantly seem to be ignoring it.
Use your brain. so you're making an assumption about the setup, or you know more than I do. Every normal I've ever played has been rounded up. So, are you claiming scum?
you are ALSO speculating on the setup.
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On March 27 2013 14:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yes, I'm making an assumption about the setup. Where did the KP go night 1 if they had 3 to start?
This.
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On March 27 2013 14:05 RyuSuzaku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 14:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yes, I'm making an assumption about the setup. Where did the KP go night 1 if they had 3 to start? How do we know they had 3 to start??! They could have 4 members, they could have 5 members and double stacked keirathi, they could have a recruiter for all we know. Same goes for the supposed missing roleblock. Making assumptions of the setup is a great way to lose the game even faster than we're losing already. Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 14:00 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:58 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:56 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:54 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 27 2013 13:51 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:50 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:47 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:
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generally Mafia fake claims do not have all the perceived inconsistencies that this claim has. This claim makes no sense for scum. It makes sense for third party. Do I think that they win with town. NO. But I believe that they realise that without their help town loses. So for the moment it is in our mutual interest to work together. this is scum logic. Who claims 3 hours before deadline to save themselves? Scum. Who paddles back and forth between calling someone scum and voting someone else to simply live? Scum. Scum most probably has found an opportunity to win with mislynching town today. If scum lynches town and there are still 2 KP left then we're in a very bad spot. The argument "do I believe X wins with town? No" Should ALWAYS be followed by "thus I want to lynch X," yet we see here that miraculously DP has somehow come to the conclusion that we should not lynch this nontown player. I don't believe DP is stupid enough as town to do this, so he must be scum. No. that is bullshit. there are situations were it is in the best interest for town to work with third party. namely, when town is in the shit. At the moment lynching 'not town' doesn't cut it. We need to lynch mafia. and if you were town you would understand that. false. At any point where town can win, the only time it doesn't matter who you side with is when you've already lost, aka kingmaker. In all other situations it's optimal to lynch CONFIRMED NONTOWN. You are not this stupid, and if you truly are then in postgame I will make sure everyone knows how much of a noob you are. Sorry dude, you're wrong this time. Mafia absolutely needs to die today BECAUSE THEY LOSE A KP. Now how exactly will you be proving that DP is a noob? what the fuck are you talking about, we don't even know mafia counts. 1 mafia is dead, if mafia count is 5 and KP is rounded up then we need to kill TWO mafia to reduce KP. Unless, of course, you know more than I do. no. because if that was the case we lost a kp night one for no reason. LOL guess you're not reading the thread. Remember when VE THE VET flipped last night? He claimed a shot night 1. Jesus. There was 2 KP last night, and we can reasonably assume there was 2 KP on n2 given that 4 players died and we can trace that to TPS and probably Vivax. Which means SCUM PROBABLY HAVE 2 KP. Fucking christ if you are town this is mind numbing. you KNOW I am town. says the guy who claims that there was a KP missing n1
There is only kp missing working under your assumption that there was 5 scum and KP is rounded up. I don;t believe a kp was missing. Therefore I don;t believe your assumption. God you are claiming scum so hard right now.
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On March 27 2013 14:05 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 13:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry dude, you're wrong this time.
Mafia absolutely needs to die today BECAUSE THEY LOSE A KP.
Now how exactly will you be proving that DP is a noob? For the last time, HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? Any setup speculation is just that speculation. We don't know shit. I'm also pretty sure that the numbers work out either way. Anyways, I really need to sleep because I can't be late.
Please vote kita.
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On March 27 2013 14:25 RyuSuzaku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 14:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Thanks TPS.
Ryu, question.
If you believe cosmic and layabout are scum, and you seem to believe DP is as well, do you really think that 2/4 of the remaining scum would all be the first to jump on a wagon against kita?
The other interesting thing to note about that is cosmic and layabout are not coalescing their votes onto the same target; they pick out kita and DP, which leads me to believe they are attempting to hedge their bets/protect someone. yes. Look at how many players we've lost, we've only killed one scum. I think that if they get a mislynch now and one tomorrow we've probably lost. Also, it makes sense with regard to how they reacted to the situation. Their votes and stories have not stayed consistent. I would expect them to stay consistent if they were truly third party or town who are interested in defeating mafia with town.
god you are full of it.
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On March 27 2013 14:38 ThePeashooter wrote:
One last thing before I go to bed. I would imagine the mafia are a much larger threat than the third party right now. I would keep that in mind with those saying we need to lynch the third party. To the mafia that's just one person closer to their objective of outnumbering the town, this is even more true if one death means multiple third party people die.
I feel like I had another thing but my mind is drawing blanks, so I'm off to bed.
IF YOU BELIEVE THAT VOTE KITA!
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