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On March 18 2013 13:15 Moology wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 13:08 Promato wrote:
Okay mocsta. I say we play a game. You pretend you know I am town and tell me who your next scumspect is. Explain why you suspect that person (hydra) and why they will look scummier after my green flip. In return I won't call you an idiot for the duration of this game. Well the game is solved. castingGolems *are* most likely town. I dont expect scum framer + scum RB'r So they are either scum goon fake claiming (plausible due to VE lynch, but unlikely) or actual blue role (most likely). I know my role.. and i know my interactions with ppl like FT/Dr.P went someway to divining all our alignments as town.. so that leaves you as the lowest hanging fruit; in short: I cant play along because I can't envisage a different scenario. (moc)
Sense.
This makes none.
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On March 18 2013 13:26 Moology wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 13:21 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:On March 18 2013 13:15 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 13:08 Promato wrote:
Okay mocsta. I say we play a game. You pretend you know I am town and tell me who your next scumspect is. Explain why you suspect that person (hydra) and why they will look scummier after my green flip. In return I won't call you an idiot for the duration of this game. Well the game is solved. castingGolems *are* most likely town. I dont expect scum framer + scum RB'r So they are either scum goon fake claiming (plausible due to VE lynch, but unlikely) or actual blue role (most likely). I know my role.. and i know my interactions with ppl like FT/Dr.P went someway to divining all our alignments as town.. so that leaves you as the lowest hanging fruit; in short: I cant play along because I can't envisage a different scenario. (moc) Sense. This makes none. What doesnt make sense? lets chat this out
Scum RB + Framer is a perfectly plausible setup. How is it unlikely? The Framer is effectively a goon if we don't have a cop.
Also, how a mafia goon fake-claiming in their spot implausible?
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On March 18 2013 13:33 Moology wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 13:27 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:On March 18 2013 13:26 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 13:21 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:On March 18 2013 13:15 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 13:08 Promato wrote:
Okay mocsta. I say we play a game. You pretend you know I am town and tell me who your next scumspect is. Explain why you suspect that person (hydra) and why they will look scummier after my green flip. In return I won't call you an idiot for the duration of this game. Well the game is solved. castingGolems *are* most likely town. I dont expect scum framer + scum RB'r So they are either scum goon fake claiming (plausible due to VE lynch, but unlikely) or actual blue role (most likely). I know my role.. and i know my interactions with ppl like FT/Dr.P went someway to divining all our alignments as town.. so that leaves you as the lowest hanging fruit; in short: I cant play along because I can't envisage a different scenario. (moc) Sense. This makes none. What doesnt make sense? lets chat this out Scum RB + Framer is a perfectly plausible setup. How is it unlikely? The Framer is effectively a goon if we don't have a cop. Also, how a mafia goon fake-claiming in their spot implausible? I didnt say it was implausible, i said it was plausible but unlikely. hmmm the framer is only goon IF a cop isnt present.. and that i have no idea about, havnt been looking for any roles. all i know is promato had a cooked up theory at the start of the game for role claims due to named VT. which VE jumped all over and supported (curiously enough).. thats highly suspect to me.
You claimed VT. You believe that Golems is Jailer.
Speaking of implausible setups, do you really believe that VT + Jailer + Cop is plausible?
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On March 18 2013 13:34 Promato wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 13:33 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:On March 18 2013 13:33 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 13:27 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:On March 18 2013 13:26 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 13:21 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:On March 18 2013 13:15 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 13:08 Promato wrote:
Okay mocsta. I say we play a game. You pretend you know I am town and tell me who your next scumspect is. Explain why you suspect that person (hydra) and why they will look scummier after my green flip. In return I won't call you an idiot for the duration of this game. Well the game is solved. castingGolems *are* most likely town. I dont expect scum framer + scum RB'r So they are either scum goon fake claiming (plausible due to VE lynch, but unlikely) or actual blue role (most likely). I know my role.. and i know my interactions with ppl like FT/Dr.P went someway to divining all our alignments as town.. so that leaves you as the lowest hanging fruit; in short: I cant play along because I can't envisage a different scenario. (moc) Sense. This makes none. What doesnt make sense? lets chat this out Scum RB + Framer is a perfectly plausible setup. How is it unlikely? The Framer is effectively a goon if we don't have a cop. Also, how a mafia goon fake-claiming in their spot implausible? I didnt say it was implausible, i said it was plausible but unlikely. hmmm the framer is only goon IF a cop isnt present.. and that i have no idea about, havnt been looking for any roles. all i know is promato had a cooked up theory at the start of the game for role claims due to named VT. which VE jumped all over and supported (curiously enough).. thats highly suspect to me. You claimed VT. You believe that Golems is Jailer. Speaking of implausible setups, do you really believe that VT + Jailer + Cop is plausible? durrr durr VT means Vanilla Townie durrr
Oh fuck me I thought he meant named VT.
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And considering they threw darts.....
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On March 18 2013 14:10 Moology wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 13:53 Promato wrote:
Golems: not reading the op is very different from not reading your own role pm. Don't equate one with the other. Regardless of what I think about you; that point can not be ignored.
Sooo... what exactly is your stance on Casters now?
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On March 18 2013 14:30 TLCastingGolems wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 14:24 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:On March 18 2013 14:10 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 13:53 Promato wrote:
Golems: not reading the op is very different from not reading your own role pm. Don't equate one with the other. Regardless of what I think about you; that point can not be ignored. Sooo... what exactly is your stance on Casters now? He's looking for an out, and it's up to you and the two other 'confirmed townies' if you want to give it to him tomorrow. You all know what my plan is for tonight.
Prome not scum anymore?
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What proc's first in night-action resolution? Scum RB or Jailkeeper RB? Or do they proc at the same time?
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want to give us a hint to what it is?
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On March 16 2013 08:54 Moology wrote:
What the fuck...
##Vote: ObliviousEyes
With Dirk's death that really puts me off on calling Newbie scum. He should know that once Dirk is gone he's next in a lot of peoples minds. It doesn't make sense. OE looks like a good candidate and I'm starting to really want to hear from Golems again.
marv why would he give up on suspicion of us here though. Seems weird for a scum to do
iamp
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On March 18 2013 23:37 Promato wrote:
marv stop stealing my credit. (Yam's credit) I'm still putting him up for most improved player. You said one game wasn't enough ? How about three? He rocked scum in nomination, in duel and now here.
Yam was the first to post the case on VE and even when we aren't posting much we were going to get that lynch through. We're both loud enough when we need to be to lynch whomever needs to be lynched. Don't pretend like his fate was anything but sealed since our case on him.
Its cute how moo wants the credit too though, its so sweet how he wants to grow up to be me.
your delusional if you actually believe that.
iamp
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On March 18 2013 23:48 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 23:46 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 23:44 FiveTouch wrote:On March 18 2013 23:39 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 23:32 FiveTouch wrote:On March 18 2013 23:28 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 23:27 FiveTouch wrote:On March 18 2013 23:25 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 23:06 FiveTouch wrote:
I plan to look at the evolution of Moology's OE read this evening; I think my meta metric for deciding whether Mocsta is mafia (argumentative to a tee) is out of date as he matures his game.
~marv Hopefully like a fine wine, instead of a silicon implant  Omni has a present for you later on.. i dont want to spoil it.. fact was.. we were saving this present for tomorrow as i didnt think it was necessary.. but.. omni in his newbie wisdom wanted to unleash total pwnage tonight.. guessing cos he sick of infested terrans fuming around in his house. hint: Neutral Surviving Balrog is the theme. P.S. as I keep telling everyone.. my activity isnt determined by alignment. Im just busy with work and HotS, + last mafia game burnt me out; 26 page filter for a loss to bartender this is my last game for a few weeks Lets give thrawn that final win. GO TOWN!! The sooner the better, I don't like basing my reads on incomplete information when the information can simply be given to me. ~marv Well im 100% against it.. frankly I think it would come together much more Day 3.. but whatevs i cant force Omni to not post; he basically said he gonna post it when im asleep lol so i dont rage at him in the QT (moc) Given there's a decent chance I'll be dead by tomorrow, I'd like to be given the chance to process any information in this night phase. I know you've kinda talked about it before but I'd like you to talk about the evolution of your OE read. At the end of Night 1 he wasn't even in your top 4 in terms of interest, and yet as soon as Day started you sheeped me immediately on to him. Promato and Dirk were your top reads, and yet all of a sudden you were siding with Promato against OE. Why? ~marv The last will was "MY" last will.. nothing to do with Omni. (Thought it was clear with the bold font) When the NK happened, i wasnt even around all those posts were from Mr. Omni.. henceforth why I suggested to Kei to request Omni to explain his thought process. But as for my read on VE... I got a fair idea of his current town play.. and i just get a vibe from him when he is scum.. just like in Mafia LIX gonzaw smooth talked me into giving him my mayor vote.. i just get the same greasiness from a scum VE.. cept now I know to reverse how I feel, and hey presto. i got scum.. its not specific quotes for me.. its a gut feeling that makes me want to like him. I was pretty content witht he vote on him; and then analyse what he did under the pressure... the response of "nothing" made it clear to me he was scum and i guess couldnt be fucked anymore. I dont blame that. its a small setup; good players.. stuck with a newbie.. why bother? For me.. even though I dont care too much about this game.. i havent been mislynched before.. and dotn want to be mislynched now.. so trying to beef up the effort more and become motivated cos yes, we became complacent when we became confident VE was scum. I can admit that. (moc) Ok I'll have to re-read and see what Omni said about things. I assume Golems is your last read for mafia. Based on the Jailkeeper claim? Other stuff too? ~marv Yes, but the reason will be clear as water when Omni shows his face. why are we waiting for omni again?? are you incapable for some reason
ill never be able to smurf correctly ever
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@ Promato
Okay, so you agree that making a case is useless. Either people will or will not sheep me. If they will sheep me they will do it without the case. If they won't sheep me they can go and reread the damn thread and figure it out for themselves. If you want to make the PR piece and herd the little sheeps you are welcome to.
That's not the point at all.
If you make a case and are willing to do more than "lol u suck sheep me," people will be more open to your ideas. Your attitude makes you look like a jackass, and it's impossible to hold you accountable for anything.
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Accountability implies that you have reasoning for your cases. At this point I'm more interested in confirming my town read on you. Hell in the time you've spent bitiching about how no one sheeps you, you could have done something.
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On March 19 2013 05:49 Moology wrote:
Does anybody watch hockey? I'm more than willing to discuss the Toronto Maple Leafs on the path to winning the cup this year for the next 2 hours.
Alternatively, you can spend the next two hours convincing us why Promato is scum. Because I don't see it at all.
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