Hydra Mini Mafia - Page 8

On March 17 2013 05:02 TLCastingGolems wrote:
On Prom:
**snip**

On March 17 2013 05:39 TLCastingGolems wrote:
FiveTouch:
Your conversation with Prom--- its a meta read which I know nothing about. I refuse to base my own reads based on meta of players I dont even know, and one measly meta read does not a towny player make imo. It's entirely possible for scum or town to come to the same conclusions you did.

On March 17 2013 08:19 Moology wrote:
(4) Prome - I dont agree with marvs basis for a strong town read. I think good mafia can be flexible; + his first reaction was to ask "is it a loaded question"... (to me, indicating: he is thinking critically how answering this question will *AFFECT* his perceived image)

As an aside its important to note, I dont think full meta reads apply to this game. You and another hydra head to ground you and help influence you to decisions you would not normally make. I think Marvs point was that the about turn came in minutes... but does it really take *just* minutes to re-read a filter and change your mind? I think it takes more time, so i dont find FTs "town read" relevant.

On March 17 2013 08:38 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
Eh no sense in defending him marv. Yamato is a big boy and can defend himself. I think he's town too, but he's posting far less than I'd like him to.

On March 17 2013 08:39 Moology wrote:

Well my perspective is:
(1) If they are scum; they *KNOW* your alignment.. im thinking you are town, and the thread atmosphere indicates the same thought.

So
(2) if someone you know is town; and everyone else thinks their town; and has a reputation for solving games comes and puts soft-pressure on you: do you cock up and stick to your guns; or be soft and play the nice-guy card.

Survival instincts, and typical mafia play suggest: be jelly every time.

Fact is: Day1, usually there are multiple candidates to consider (as either alignment). I think as scum, its a low risk option to discard a current read, to appease someone you are threatened by. + can always play the "reads subject to change card" to shift them back into the limelight. Survival suggest playing the long game; not the short one....

I think we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one

(moc)

On March 17 2013 08:47 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:


Wait what? You do a good preachy marv impression =/

On March 17 2013 10:45 DrParnassus wrote:





do you think this looks like a follow up post for somebody who accidentally blue-slipped? where is the emotion, the "oh shit i dun goofed" ?

On March 17 2013 10:54 DrParnassus wrote:


thrawn

On March 17 2013 11:45 TLCastingGolems wrote:


*shrug* it's different playing as a hydra. My contribution level probably looks less than it feels because of how much me and him were collaborating early on.

You never answered me before, it might have been lost in my post. What do you think of Moology?

On March 17 2013 11:52 TLCastingGolems wrote:


If it was abundantly clear, I wouldn't be asking. I looked through, but can't find it.

Please reiterate.

(apparently, it's ok for you guys to force me to repeat myself, but it's not ok for me to ask a question)

On March 16 2013 07:59 FiveTouch wrote:
Moology - Kei and I had some disagreements about this originally, but I'm fairly convinced Moology is town. Mocsta was arguing with the Dr. earlier in the thread, but took the opportunity to abandon the argument. Mocsta, as mafia, LOVES these arguments. He'll literally go at it for pages and pages, but here he didn't. In addition to this, his posts feel sincere, I can follow his thought process, his suspicions, and he seems to be genuinely trying to figure things out.

On March 17 2013 12:39 TLCastingGolems wrote:
Alright it's me again ladies.
What a shit-show this has become. You guys as a town are just completely tunneling us without ever considering absolutely anything else, and so you guys are going to fuck the whole town over as a result. You've completely lost sight of the rest of the game because you think you have it solved but YOU'RE WRONG. Your confirmation bias is blinding you to any other possibilities.
Nothing we will ever give you is going to be good enough as Soniv seems to have displayed thus far, and we're in danger of losing sight of the one seemingly sure scumread we as a town have despite the fact HE HASN'T EVEN BEEN AROUND ALL FUCKING DAY.

At this point I think Soniv has the right idea; I would love to entertain you guys further if anything I said or did got you onto the right track, but it WON'T. Therefore, keeping silent makes more sense because maybe you guys will be forced to turn attention elsewhere and save a mislynch. We are completely on board for lynching OE today. If we survive the night (which will only happen if you guys are fucking stupid and let mafia think you're killing us tomorrow) then maybe we can somehow continue the discourse.

On March 17 2013 14:15 TLCastingGolems wrote:
Alright, I've tried. Newbie your scumhunting is relentless, to the point of absolute obstinacy towards us, yet you flip off of Promato directly after calling him scum once Yamato brings up his only solid case all game is worrisome. You appear to be so good at digging through old games, filters and posts to find exactly what you need, and much of is legitimately good, but simply the fact that you appear to be so bullishly opposed to the idea that we are town since basically THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME when you first got annoyed with our style just doesn't allow me to view you as town yet.
You are null to me, leaning town because there are a lot of things in your filter that honestly seem like too much effort to go through if you were scum. You're constantly pressuring in places that require pressure at many right points in time, yet you also devote much of your time to discussing lurkers like us, WittyHydraName and Dirk, all of which are town. There is too much dichotomy to give me a clear town read.

Now, is it POSSIBLE to entertain the discussion elsewhere so that I may feel like I can contribute positively rather than continue to defend myself to no end? Fuck, lynch us after OE if you must but at least try to consider other points of you so that you might fucking LEARN something when we die.

On March 17 2013 14:41 DrParnassus wrote:


yeah i do actually.

I strongly disagree with FT being in the possible-scum group. You played in dueling mafia, you should know that this keir is not the same mild-mannered scum keir from dueling.

You've put golems as maybe town, and mocsta as prob scum. What happened to you "catching another one" in golems? And why moology? I need a case for that moology scumread.

On March 17 2013 14:48 DrParnassus wrote:


eh. the difference is so extreme that i'm willing to stand by that reasoning. i'm not thinking about post quantity, but just things like word usage, mannerisms.... how you talk to your scum reads.... shit like that.

On March 17 2013 15:25 DrParnassus wrote:


asdkgasldgn

there are other reasons for my read, and i've given them (things like you and hapa being two people who have lept scumhunting and are being open to all possibilities without being pressured to do so)

this convo is kinda dumb (we're arguing about how i shouldn't have such a strong town read on you) and i don't really care to expound upon why I feel that you're town atm.

tldr: lol

On March 18 2013 07:34 DrParnassus wrote:


##Unvote
##Vote: fivetouch

for blatant sheeping

also because a vote for myself is a wasted vote... or something