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DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 16:30 GMT
#516
On March 16 2013 01:29 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 01:27 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:25 iamperfection wrote:
On March 16 2013 00:30 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 16 2013 00:05 FiveTouch wrote:
fine, I'll be serious for a moment, even though I think you're hilarious.

Even in my 'lazy' scumgames I don't outright slip. I'm too good, too meticulous. You know this.

2) Given the flip, and the play apart from it, it seems pretty likely to me that Dirk is mafia, so looking at who helped moved the lynch from Dirk to Witty makes sense.

~marv

do you stand by this statement as fact.
ANSWER


yes. apart from that tiny tiny slip no-one found in NMM3 and that you only know about because I told you.

Damn it


hey bro how does it feel to be the wagon of justice
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 16:59 GMT
#518
On March 16 2013 01:30 DrParnassus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 01:29 iamperfection wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:27 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:25 iamperfection wrote:
On March 16 2013 00:30 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 16 2013 00:05 FiveTouch wrote:
fine, I'll be serious for a moment, even though I think you're hilarious.

Even in my 'lazy' scumgames I don't outright slip. I'm too good, too meticulous. You know this.

2) Given the flip, and the play apart from it, it seems pretty likely to me that Dirk is mafia, so looking at who helped moved the lynch from Dirk to Witty makes sense.

~marv

do you stand by this statement as fact.
ANSWER


yes. apart from that tiny tiny slip no-one found in NMM3 and that you only know about because I told you.

Damn it


hey bro how does it feel to be the wagon of justice


well now he's run off again

this iamp has no balls, lets lynch him after dirk

-t
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 17:07 GMT
#520
On March 16 2013 02:01 FiveTouch wrote:
I'm quite sceptical that iamp is mafia. His case is stupid but it doesn't make him mafia.

~marv


it's not really his case, I actually agree with some of the points he brings up. it's the manner in which the case is written, and how fast he slunk away after you yelled at him

Whenever the question of iamp's alignment is brought up in other games (where he is town) everyone is quick to scream "NO IAMP IS AN INNOCENT CHILD!" Do you see anything about his play in this game that reminds you of his near-mod-confirmed town status in other games?

t
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 17:18 GMT
#524
HI IAMP. I'm looking right at you but you won't make eye contact with me! Why so guilty?
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 17:26 GMT
#530
On March 16 2013 02:23 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
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On March 16 2013 02:18 DrParnassus wrote:
HI IAMP. I'm looking right at you but you won't make eye contact with me! Why so guilty?

because you have no idea what your talking about how does me making a case on marv make me mafia dear.



it doesn't. the way you're playing this game does. you have done fuck all so far and you come across like a grumpy old fart as opposed to your usual angelic childlike appearance

DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 17:31 GMT
#532
On March 16 2013 02:29 TLCastingGolems wrote:
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On March 16 2013 02:22 FiveTouch wrote:
Playing for modkill is a really bad way to play the game.


Which is why we asked the mods if he would be modkilled.

Modkills are always unfortunate, but I don't get why town would be content with letting their KP be diminished by having their target die to something out of their control and waste the days lynch.

But I'm clearly not seeing something that everyone else is.

-S4


Yeah you play the game, assuming that the hosts dont do shit beside resolving night actions and posting day/night posts.
Everything else shouldnt even be speculated about. Like modkills.
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 19:51 GMT
#541
STRONG TOWN READS

TLCastingGolems

This is without a doubt, my strongest town read in the game. No doubts about it. DO NOT LYNCH. DO NOT LYNCH. DO NOT LYNCH. I don't particularly care to explain exactly why I feel this way, but rest assured that the reasoning is rock-solid. I'll give you a hint... put yourself in their position and assume you're town. Do the same thing, but assume you're scum. I say that the town option is the only sensible option for this hydra. DO NOT LYNCH. PLEASE! This is without a doubt, my strongest town read in the game. No doubts about it. DO NOT LYNCH. DO NOT LYNCH. DO NOT LYNCH. I'll give you a hint... put yourself in their position and assume you're town. Do the same thing, but assume you're scum. I say that the town option is the only sensible option for this hydra. DO NOT LYNCH. PLEASE! This is without a doubt, my strongest town read in the game. No doubts about it. DO NOT LYNCH. DO NOT LYNCH. DO NOT LYNCH. I say that the town option is the only sensible option for this hydra. DO NOT LYNCH. PLEASE!

DO NOT LYNCH!

Moology

I can't imagine Moology being scum considering how they've handled the immense amount of stupidity that both myself and Oats have thrown their way. This is another person that I advise you to NOT LYNCH. DO NOT LYNCH THIS HYDRA!



WEAK TOWN READS

Promato

I loathe their lurky play thus far however I think they are town, and I'm fairly confident about this read. Yamato's push on the VE/OO hydra last night felt genuine. I haven't liked prom's play, but I haven't liked it in the way that I often don't like his play when I've mistakenly called him scum in the past. Pressure the hell out of these two, especially yamato, but don't lynch them D2.

ObliviousEyes

Meh. I had a town read on VE for almost all of D1. His voting actions suggest that we don't need to worry about him for now. The only problem with this read is that he's dropped off the face of the earth since N1 started, and Obvious' posts have felt a little off every now and then. I would definitely NOT lynch this hydra D2, but like the promato pair, these guys need to be pressured.... especially VE. It shouldn't be too difficult to figure out VE's alignment. (try to get him emotionally involved and see what happens. as town he'll froth at the mouth, as scum he'll fake the same reaction)



NULLISH READ

FiveTouch

This is a difficult one. Keir has been pretty useless, much like he was in dueling mafia where he was scum. What I remember most about his play is him stepping in to defend his other half, marv. However, his manner seems completely different than the meek keir I remember from dueling mafia. When asked if he wanted to duel thrawn, he replied with:

"I would be ok with dueling thrawn."

That's a fairly good representation of his play in that game. His words had no bite; he didn't seem to care about his opinions at all. That's the opposite of how he's played this game. I don't like his contributions, however this is a game where the average poster only had .94 pages of filter by the D1 lynch deadline. His style of posting in this game suggests that he's town.

Then there's marv. I have a town read on marv. Ask me 5 minutes from now, and it might be a scumread. 5 minutes after that, it'll probably be a town read. I'm putting marv at null, but leaning town.



SCUM READS

NewbieXXXI_ObsQT

I have a scumread on thiss'un, but I don't want to lynch it just yet. That spot is reserved for Dirk. But here's why I think this hydra is scum.

Iamp:

Iamp is sometimes called scummy (by a few) in games where he's town, but despite that he's always a shining beacon of townieness for everyone else. In games where Iamp is town, there is always a bunch of people who have very strong town reads on him. I stand by my earlier comparison, that he's coming across as a grumpy old fart rather than an all but mod confirmed innocent child. He has no agenda this game, he hasn't cared about anything except to "push" the wittyname wagon after everyone had already started doing so. There's none of the playfulness of his town meta, none of his willingness to tell people off to get them to do what he wants. When he's town he doesn't make huge cases and such, but he always cares about the lynch and has a very clear agenda. This game, there is none of that.

Hapa:

Through D1 I had a town read on hapa at times, but after a recent re-read of his filter I am pretty sure he's scum. I've played several games with hapa and I think I know his town meta by now. Go read the recently finished British Mafia II and contrast that with his play in this game. In this game, he's hardly interacting with the thread. As town, hapa will pursue anything even slightly suspicious until he's confident about his reads. He hasn't been doing that this game. His interest in this game is quite lacking, and for hapa, that's probably the most alignment-indicative thing you can say about him.

DirkHardPeck

This hydra is scum, and needs to be lynched before anything constructive can happen.

The dirk issue needs to be cleared up immediately. I'm a little tempted to push his lynch tomorrow even if he starts acting extremely townie. I get the feeling that the trolling is going to continue. There are also some useful association cases to be made depending on his alignment, so he needs to be flipped ASAP. Regardless of his alignment, the longer he remains in the game, the harder the game will be to read. Even marv has begun making associations cases based on a 'red-dirk' theory. Besides all of that, HE IS SCUM. There's like, no room for debate. He posted this:

On March 15 2013 22:15 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
Not unexpected but probably for the best as he did not seem to be interested at all in playing the game. Let's check up on things tomorrow and see what has happened.

/chaos13


"Not unexpected" is not a phrase a townie would use to describe yesterday's lynch outcome. Only a scum player could have foreseen wittyhyrda flipping town. Don't listen to anything this hyrda says, just lynch him PLZ. LYNCH THIS HYDRA, LYNCH HIM D2.


Welp, that's about it. I posted this early because I have shit to do in a couple of hours so I won't be around right at the deadline. I'll be on for a few more hours. I don't particularly expect to be night-killed because there are lots of players in the game who are much better than me, but I wouldn't be surprised by a night-kill cos I'm fairly high on everyone's townie list.

Oats isn't gonna be here for the deadline either. He disagrees with me on a lot of stuff but oh well... this is my will, not his.

--tom waits
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 19:54 GMT
#542
ebwop

change the "nullish read" heading for fivetouch to "nullish town read"
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 19:59 GMT
#544
On March 16 2013 04:57 FiveTouch wrote:
I don't really agree with your conclusions. I'll post more later. I've checked the filters I need.

~marv


i'm guessing you're gonna call newbieobs town, and probably one of promato/oblivious scum? I have to leave in an hour so get back to me soon
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 20:08 GMT
#546
Everyone yelled at the castinggolems for all of D1. The majority of the yelling had to do with their roleplaying..... yet they kept roleplaying? Would scum do this? I don't think so. They only recently stopped, but it was due to "time-constraints" instead of peer-pressure. I say the fact that they continued to role-play despite everyone bitching about says that they're town. The whole modkill argument... I wouldn't put too much stock in that. While stupid, I've seen that argument used A LOT in newbie games.... and not only in newbie games for what it's worth.
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 20:18 GMT
#548
yeah it's wifomy but i gotta flip the coin eventually lol

i have other reasons to think they're town, but that's the one i came up with while i was high last night so it's my favorite
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 20:20 GMT
#550
oh and btw, don't judge oats too harshly for his interactions with mocsta last night because of a lot of his posts..... he didn't write. i've been impersonating him for much of the game lol. it shouldn't be too hard to figure out which ones were me
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 20:32 GMT
#552
well that's just fantastic. i've called both prom and hapa scum at some point in this game, and they've both said my accusations are completely reasonable. what do?
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 20:41 GMT
#558
On March 16 2013 05:38 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 05:37 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:36 FiveTouch wrote:
Why the fuck is everyone so worried about me not posting much. This is not an 18 player game. It is a 9 player game. Marv speaks for our opinions, and if he's not around, I'll talk about what I feel is important.

~Keir


'cause you're a good player, and I'd expect you to be more vocal about your opinions.

I'm plenty vocal with my opinions...to my partner, and we discuss them, then he brings them to the thread when we've reached a consensus.


in that case, please realize that it doesn't come across that way. it comes across as marv being the only one who posts reads. nobody is privy to your and marv's convos
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 20:53 GMT
#567
upgrade FT to somewhere on the green scale, and move promato down slightly red

prom, are you fucking serious, that is the most useful thing that's crossed your mind recently?
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 20:58 GMT
#573
OK. I g2g, won't be back before deadline. Here is my list of least lynch worthy to most lynchworthy

Moology, TlCasters, FT, OO, Promato, Newbie Obs, Dirk

and that's my final answer
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 21:06 GMT
#577
On March 16 2013 06:03 Promato wrote:
I'm telling you, VE is mafia

He's also all kinds of afk for a while now, which is highly, highly suspicious.

His latest post is a defense of himself from my attacks which doesn't even address the strongest point, that VE is obviously willing to consent to lynching with town in ALL OF ONE POST, despite screaming that Dirk is mafia in all of his other posts. It's exactly the same thing I nailed him for day one in Nomination. Stop fucking ignoring it.


Is this prom? How are you so fucking sure about VE being mafia when you obviously aren't even making half an effort to play the game? You have like 0 town cred atm. You seem so goddamn sure about this VE read...... but I don't see how you would be able to be so confident if I'm to believe that you are truly an over-burdened townie who cba to play the game

imo you and VE are at about the same level of scumminess
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 16 2013 00:13 GMT
#625
maybe all the flips thus far have been lies?
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 16 2013 00:18 GMT
#626
but on a serious note.... VE being scum makes a whole lot of sense when you take into account that the most lynchable player was nk'd. nobody else is that insane creative
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 16 2013 00:25 GMT
#627
##Vote: DrParnassus

there is no need to state the obvious so if you do, i'll probably just troll in response. this is my real vote for d2 and I don't intend on changing it unless I think scum isn't going to get lynched.
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