Hydra Mini Mafia - Page 5

Dirk Hardpec - so yes, this guy is mafia. It's clear enough, it's been mentioned why - the trolling, the "I knew he'd flip town but did nothing about doing something else", the lack of anything.



Do *not* be fooled by this. This is typical vettish scumplay from Palmar (probably bugs too). I'll contribute later... just you wait... I'll prove I'm town... and then there'll be a post that these players are very capable of making look good or convincing. What you need to remember is that they have not contributed in the slightest so far. That's actually the important issue. Don't forget, also, that Palmar is well known for having Day 1 as his absolute best day. Like, by far. He catches mafia regularly Day 1, and tails off after. There's a post he made about this in the obsQT for Hero Mini Mafia if you're really interested in checking what I've said. The salient point being that theoretical town-Palmar has wasted his absolute best day of catching mafia, on the offhand promise that he'll do better tomorrow, and willingly lynching into town. He must die.

On March 16 2013 10:08 FiveTouch wrote:

1) What about this is similar to DeathNote? I'm not following. Are you saying that Dirk couldn't have been lynched yesterday? I very strongly disagree with that, and if we (meaning me and marv) were more confident that Dirk was scum than Witty, we almost certainly could have gotten him lynched instead.

2) You're missing the point here. Maybe Palmar has trolled away a day 1 in the past (Death Note is the only example I know of...his other Trolly-Day-1 games, he still gives actual insight [read: LVIII...uh, seems like another too]). That doesn't change the fact that Palmar openly acknowledges that Day 1 is his best day as town, and then 100% wasted it by doing absolutely nothing. I would lynch a Palmar that refuses to play on his strongest day in any game, because town Palmar is far far more likely to put in at least a modicum of effort early on.

GO AND READ THEM YOURSELF. I think OE is the best lynch, if the rest of you don't, do something the fuck about it rather than fucking whining like little bitches that it's just sheep marv day. Jesus christ.

To repeat to you, Hapa, I accused Palmar of being mafia for wasting his Day 1, and bugs as town doesn't usually waste Day 1s. Can you find me a single example in living memory where bugs did nothing as town on Day 1? I sure as hell can't.

~marv

On March 16 2013 10:10 FiveTouch wrote:
Seriously, I made that post because *I* put in the effort for the rest of town, then town has a hissy fit that I want people to sheep me? What's wrong with people? I'm out until tomorrow.

~marv

On March 16 2013 10:41 DrParnassus wrote:


i'm fairly sure that marv is referring to my vote, and my justification for said vote. the good news however, is that now i'm pretty confident about both of you being town after all this. i was very confident about marv being town before, but now i'm almost certain.

what happened to you completely agreeing with the case on VE? you're just throwing all that away because of some trivialities concerning palmars history of useful town play or lack thereof?

also you say that the night kill is strange

WHO IS THE MORE STRANGE SCUM PLAYER, MARV OR VE?

i don't see how you're like

"I think ve is scum, oh gosh that's a weird nightkill, must be marv instead of VE"

imo the choice of nightkills can be figured out... not by stuff like guessing about whether scum is trying to wifom you or not, but just by thinking about which player in the game (if they are scum) is most likely to night kill X player. You recently killed off marv, iamp, then myself in that order probably because we were the people in the game most likely to catch you if you were scum. So in a game where those 3 players get night killed, if hapa is in the game then there's a very good chance that hapa is scum. IMO VE being on the scumteam is the simplest explanation for this game's night kill.

On March 16 2013 10:42 FiveTouch wrote:
Its almost 3am in England. He went to bed.

On March 16 2013 11:11 Hapahauli wrote:
ok ok yeah FT is town.

Back to sheepy-land

##Vote ObliviousEyes

On March 16 2013 11:20 Hapahauli wrote:
Marv throwing his hissy-fit was a good sign that he was town. You stepping up to the block when you didn't need to is a sign that you're town.

I was planning on stringing this out a bit to see how Caster/ObliviousEyes reacted, but it doesn't seem worth it,

tl;dr
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 16 2013 11:37 FiveTouch wrote:

I...what? That makes no fucking sense. I've been posting every night after marv goes to bed. You were suspicious of me earlier for it, but now its a town tell?

On March 16 2013 11:40 DrParnassus wrote:


firstly, who wrote this post? secondly,

how's life aboard the magic school bus?

OH MY GOD MOO. You were scum all along weren't you>>> Please get in touch with me asap.... and it needs to be mocsta, not OE.


(btw we're still lynching VE, I just want to see where this goes)

On March 16 2013 11:56 DrParnassus wrote:
ah, well then no worries for now. nvm.

@hapa

basically if mocsta was the one who voted VE like that, it would have been a very suspicious post... if you take moc's final will into account.

On March 16 2013 14:01 TLCastingGolems wrote:
I can't keep up with this fucking thread.
So Dirk gets NKed huh?
I can't honestly fathom why the fuck mafia would do that when he was essentially a free mislynch apparently. Hopefully it just means they're going to end up out-thinking themselves in the end with fancy shit rather than us.

Anywho, not sheeping onto the OE train yet, until I can get some reads going.
Off the top of my head though:
I remember I wanted to mention something about Parnassus' last post before the flip, something about OH GOD PLEASE NO DONT LYNCH GOLEMS which seemed really fucking odd, and now he goes and votes himself for no apparent reason. Will be looking into this.

On March 16 2013 14:17 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:


Wait. If you are town, why would you find someone hard defending you like that odd?



I'll get to your case in a bit (just found it, you posted it under WoS), but what part of anything here makes sense?

1) In no way do I think "everything falls apart" with Dirk flipping town. In fact I have two rather nice scumreads in ObviousEyes and yourself right now.
2) Explain to me how it makes sense to NK dirk in my position as hypothetical scum. I killed the only guy who was going to get lynched before me. Yeah. Sure.

Alright. But at the expense of real scumhunting? It's REAL easy to go after all the lurkers/perceived 'obvioius' scum targets. But now consider his own soft defense of himself:

Another soft defense here, this time of scumbudy, DirkHardpec:

While he once didn't mind our witty antics, look at how he begins to lose his patience with us now that we've begun to catch on.

Isn't the best kind of lying the kind where you tell the truth? Look at this:

He is right, of course. Dirk is scum and we are not. This gives him an easy way to slow-bus a teammate without looking directly scummy, especially since Dirk is doing a good job of bussing himself and is bound to be lynched anyway. If Newbie can eliminate all of the easy town lurkers (while likely sacrificing Dirk) the rest of the town would have found it very difficult to catch him if not for his own contradictions letting him down. Why defend someone saying you're not sure if they're scum yet and defend them in what basically amounts to the same breath?

Top scumread for now remains Newbie since he barely responded to my case on him, and despite the fact that he seems to think it all falls apart with Dirk flipping town, it doesn't quite, especially since the only reason scum has to NK Dirk in the first place is to fuck with us and our previous conceptions.

On March 16 2013 14:47 DrParnassus wrote:


i was high when i thought of the reasoning for my town read on him. it sounded amazingly perfect, as do all thoughts you have while high