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DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 17 2013 23:24 GMT
#941
On March 18 2013 08:20 FiveTouch wrote:
did OE actually put up a fight? I'll be disappointed if it was super easy


OO and yamato yelled at each other for a couple hours. other than that, nothing
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 17 2013 23:34 GMT
#942
my case too good. yo.

i feel this game should be at least partially solveable given what we know and stuff. I'll actually read the thread and get back to you guys once i've thought about it and talked to kei.

The jailkeeper claim is really really dodgy.
Artanis & marv
NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 18 2013 00:00 GMT
#943
Yaaaaaay

Anyway food for thought: we have 2 mislynches left normally, but we can game the Jailkeeper claim (regardless of whether it's true or not) to give us a 3rd if we need it. This is how it would work:

Tonight, Golems "JK's" Moology. If there's an NK, Moology (or yamato) is confirmed town. Even if the JK claim is fake, Moology would still be confirmed town (by virtue of Golems being scum), letting us lynch into Yamato and Golems over the next two days. If there's no NK, it's non-allignment indicative (since scum could not use their night-kill to throw off town), and we lynch one of Moology/Yamato. For the sake of the example, we'll lynch Yamato.

The next night, Golem's "JK's" Moology again. If there's a NK, Moology is confirmed town and we lynch golems. If there's no NK, we lynch one of Moology/Golems, HOWEVER since mafia didn't NK two nights in a row, giving us an extra mislynch before lylo.

so tl;dr
We can lynch moology/golems/yamato guarenteed

The two man power trip.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 18 2013 00:05 GMT
#944
Or you can count the mislynches/lynches and work out you're talking bollocks

~marv
Artanis & marv
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 18 2013 00:05 GMT
#945
yeah, the game appears to be solved in that case

unless i'm scum or something
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 18 2013 00:11 GMT
#946
On March 18 2013 09:05 FiveTouch wrote:
Or you can count the mislynches/lynches and work out you're talking bollocks

~marv

By this, he means we only have 1 mislynch left, not 2.
Artanis & marv
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 18 2013 00:16 GMT
#947
On March 18 2013 09:05 FiveTouch wrote:
Or you can count the mislynches/lynches and work out you're talking bollocks

~marv


Errr I think it's alright? Normally there are 3 mislynches to loss in a 9 player game.

If two scum NK's are prevented, pretty sure that turns into 4.

5v1 right now.

With NK's:
Night 2 NK --> 4v1
Day 2 lynch --> 3v1
Night 3 NK --> 2v1

No NK's:
Night 2 NK (none) ---> 5v1
Day 3 lynch ---> 4v1
Night 3 NK (none) ---> 4v1
Day 4 lynch ---> 3v1

So even with a Night 4 NK, we'd have one more lynch availible for a total of 3 lynches.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 18 2013 00:17 GMT
#948
POINT IS, we have room to lynch 3 players. And I'm pretty comfortable killing yamato/moology/casters for the win.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Moology
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy144 Posts
March 18 2013 00:21 GMT
#949
Good plan Newbie, im happy with that

Golems to "JK" Moology

and after the NK we will become confirmed.

I suspect a NK will still happen; cos "assuming JK exists" and is on us; means someone like Marv can be shot which should be "tempting" enough.

(moc)
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#950
Just for clarification, since OP isn't specific:

Are NKs factional, or carried out by a specific player? IE, can a jail keeper stop a NK offensively?
Artanis & marv
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 18 2013 00:29 GMT
#951
On March 18 2013 09:28 FiveTouch wrote:
Are NKs factional, or carried out by a specific player? IE, can a jail keeper stop a NK offensively?

Night Kills are carried out by a specific player.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 18 2013 00:31 GMT
#952
Anywho before committing to such a plan, I need to read through FT's filter and make sure there are no lingering doubts about this.

It'll also be hard to resist lynching casters tomorrow - his claim makes a ton of sense if he's a mafia roleblocker.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Promato
Profile Joined March 2013
92 Posts
March 18 2013 00:31 GMT
#953
Marv,
Last scum is moo not golems.
golems town:
1) claim
2) troll play too brave
3) stupid thoughts on promato
4) too cute for scum

Moo scum:
1) reads flow with thread sentiment
2) tries to throw suspicion where there is none
3) is scummy as butts
4) moc addresses everything to me (prom) and not to Yam who actually said things. He is disinterested in thread and is not reading. Assumes I am talking and isn't trying to cozy up to me (town moc just wants my dick all the time) + Show Spoiler [moc not wanting my dick] +
On March 17 2013 14:25 Moology wrote:
hmm... you bring up a really good point with Prom Golems.

I'm going through his filter again as well and other than him exposing OE there really isn't anything else worth noting. There's a lot of nothing in his last page other than attacking other players.

I mean even his contribution to the VE lynch isn't a lot outside of a meta read. It doesn't seem like it took a lot of effort from Prom to catch him. Especially considering he's barely been playing the game.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 17 2013 05:26 Promato wrote:
lol, this is bullshit.

I was the first one to nail VE as mafia.

I have subsequently waited to see what people do in repsonse to this.

Only you have done anything that isn't call him mafia, which is either the dumbest move in the thread, or a sign that you're just bad town.

The thing I have to consider is; would mafia bus VE here or not? My instinct says yes, but you coming in here and accusing me over sitting back and watching today is bullshit. I caught one mafia, and I'm in the process of catching another.


It's also good to have confidence in your reads but while we are still discussing scum OE he seems to know what alignment OE will be when they flip without a doubt. I mean when I read through OE's filter I think he's scum because all of their "cases" are summaries with no real opinions. They don't seem to discuss how to catch scum at all or try to really figure anything out that would help town. OE is scummy for a lot of reasons but Prom doesn't really address that.

Prom just says meta read! OE scum! after ignoring them up to that point and while lurking. Basically "VE looks scummy, what does everybody else think about my observation?"



I'm too lazy for a bigger PR piece. But Moc is scum. He can die next.
Yamato + Prom hydra for Hydra Mini
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 18 2013 00:40 GMT
#954
promato, why aren't you agreeing with us that we should lynch you?
Moology
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy144 Posts
March 18 2013 00:41 GMT
#955
Right because in a 9 player game, Moology are one of the first to hard bus VE?

Being the first vote, gives the option to walk away.

Our vote essentially sealed the vote of SCUM... now you want to twist that as a scum move.. LOL.. nice try Prome
Promato
Profile Joined March 2013
92 Posts
March 18 2013 00:42 GMT
#956
Because I'm town and moo is scum.
Yamato + Prom hydra for Hydra Mini
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 18 2013 00:44 GMT
#957
whatever.

lets just go along with the plan.

i don't think there's much of a need for either newbieobs/FT/myself to really say anything for the rest of the game. everyone else can battle it out to prove who is town. moology/promato/golems are the chosen ones
Moology
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy144 Posts
March 18 2013 00:44 GMT
#958
On March 18 2013 09:42 Promato wrote:
Because I'm town and moo is scum.

This post is worthy of a 2013 mafia award lol

I know why you want me on the block prome; unfortunately its related to things outside this game.

Im not letting my first mislynch occur under that context.

Gonna have to try harder than that if you want some of my "dick" as you say

(moc)
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 18 2013 00:48 GMT
#959
TLGOLEMS, if you don't jail either of promato or moology, you are going to be lynched!!
TLCastingGolems
Profile Joined December 2012
160 Posts
March 18 2013 01:03 GMT
#960
Ok, so OE died as framer. Cool beans. That means there's probably not a roleblocker.

Any preference to who we jail? (I'm partial to prom myself)

-S4
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