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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 08 2013 22:21 GMT
#727
ok I've completely flip flopped on my Artanis read due to the conversations that have taken place in the last couple of pages. If dandel is green I doubt I'd want to lynch Artanis tomorrow. Maybe CC? Idk. I have a VERY difficult time seeing either of Prom or CC as scum.

so yeah, i'm feeling pretty confident about this lynch. dandel isn't even playing the game at this point. He saw me revote artanis, thought "ah the mislynch has finally arrived." But now that the gun is pointed at dandel's head instead of artanis', he's gone and shat himself
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 08 2013 22:24 GMT
#730
On March 09 2013 07:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
oh wow, you really do think yourself very important, don't you?


lol prove your innocence. hammer yourself
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 08 2013 22:30 GMT
#736
PROM WHERE ARE YOU?!? COME HELP RESTORE SANITY TO THE THREAD!!!!



I suggest everyone just chill for now and we wait to see what Prom/CC think
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 08 2013 22:39 GMT
#739
OK dandl, here is the problem. I came into D3 thinking you were town, and that artanis is scum. I went to sleep, then caught up on the thread and changed my position to "artanis is probably scum but it might be dandel." Then these last few pages happened, where artanis has been helpful and you have done fuck all to make this game playable or even fun. Do you see the problem? Do you see why you need to give some reads?

Why do you want to lynch artanis, and WHO IS SCUM, IF ARTANIS IS TOWN?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 08 2013 22:53 GMT
#743
just do it imo. I won't hold it against you if he flips green. with the way he's posting there's no way he's flipping green.

like fuck, he's being deliberately ANTI-TOWN when the game is pretty tense and close. it smells of kush's scumslip and his later descent into madness in that one newbie
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 08 2013 23:19 GMT
#745
dandel>cc>artanis>prom

hammer gogo

i wish to argue with you about how much credit you're trying to take. however we must lynch scum so lets save that convo for post-game
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 08 2013 23:55 GMT
#763
there doesn't seem to be too much to say about this game

sorry to artanis/dan for being an ass but that's how I pressure people sometimes. you have to get people emotionally involved to see their true intentions

prom you know i will always call you scum no matter my alignment <3
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 09 2013 00:15 GMT
#768
On March 09 2013 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Agreed, Hapa. My hammer of Vivax was bad and I know it, but I made the decision in an instant. It went exactly as I described ingame.

Also Thrawn, I don't think you were being an ass, I just don't think you were invested in the game up until D3 and didn't bother reading the game properly until Prome motivated you to do so. It was very frustrating playing with you, Cheese and Dandel when you really seem to put in no effort in your posts for the longest time, and it works very demotivating.


hmm. D1 my play wasn't great, but I did end up with correct reads. (changing my read on prom from scum to town, and jay being scum) D2 I was wanting either an artanis or a dandel lynch, and I went to sleep and woke up to find that vivax had been lynched. had i been there I would have argued strongly against the lynch. so i'm not sure what I could have done to be more useful in D2 aside from not passing out for 12+ hours. my d3 start was.... maybe not ideal from your perspective, but I was really just trying to see if you were scum or not. i sorta did the same thing with dandel during d2... be extremely uncooperative with a person who is accusing or questioning me, and then judge their alignment based off of their reaction. you and dandel reacted completely differently... in d2 when I was an ass to dandel, he shut up and didn't question me further. in d3 he went crazy. but you hung in there despite me being extremely annoying which is what caused me to change my reads d3
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 09 2013 00:20 GMT
#771
On March 09 2013 09:18 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 09:15 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 09 2013 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Agreed, Hapa. My hammer of Vivax was bad and I know it, but I made the decision in an instant. It went exactly as I described ingame.

Also Thrawn, I don't think you were being an ass, I just don't think you were invested in the game up until D3 and didn't bother reading the game properly until Prome motivated you to do so. It was very frustrating playing with you, Cheese and Dandel when you really seem to put in no effort in your posts for the longest time, and it works very demotivating.


hmm. D1 my play wasn't great, but I did end up with correct reads. (changing my read on prom from scum to town, and jay being scum) D2 I was wanting either an artanis or a dandel lynch, and I went to sleep and woke up to find that vivax had been lynched. had i been there I would have argued strongly against the lynch. so i'm not sure what I could have done to be more useful in D2 aside from not passing out for 12+ hours. my d3 start was.... maybe not ideal from your perspective, but I was really just trying to see if you were scum or not. i sorta did the same thing with dandel during d2... be extremely uncooperative with a person who is accusing or questioning me, and then judge their alignment based off of their reaction. you and dandel reacted completely differently... in d2 when I was an ass to dandel, he shut up and didn't question me further. in d3 he went crazy. but you hung in there despite me being extremely annoying which is what caused me to change my reads d3

I really hope you don't really think that was a scumtell.

Cuz it's just as wrong as Hapa calling me town for trollvoting DrH because it was "too brave" or whatever heuristic he used.

It's just how I roll.
What I said to you ingame is true, if you won't answer a straight question first time, you won't do it second time either. No need to waste time on it.


yeah but you didn't even try to make a case against me, or ask other people what they thought of how i was playing, or anything. you simply dropped the issue entirely. it read as you not caring enough to push your read
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 09 2013 00:48 GMT
#778
On March 09 2013 09:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 09:15 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 09 2013 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Agreed, Hapa. My hammer of Vivax was bad and I know it, but I made the decision in an instant. It went exactly as I described ingame.

Also Thrawn, I don't think you were being an ass, I just don't think you were invested in the game up until D3 and didn't bother reading the game properly until Prome motivated you to do so. It was very frustrating playing with you, Cheese and Dandel when you really seem to put in no effort in your posts for the longest time, and it works very demotivating.


hmm. D1 my play wasn't great, but I did end up with correct reads. (changing my read on prom from scum to town, and jay being scum) D2 I was wanting either an artanis or a dandel lynch, and I went to sleep and woke up to find that vivax had been lynched. had i been there I would have argued strongly against the lynch. so i'm not sure what I could have done to be more useful in D2 aside from not passing out for 12+ hours. my d3 start was.... maybe not ideal from your perspective, but I was really just trying to see if you were scum or not. i sorta did the same thing with dandel during d2... be extremely uncooperative with a person who is accusing or questioning me, and then judge their alignment based off of their reaction. you and dandel reacted completely differently... in d2 when I was an ass to dandel, he shut up and didn't question me further. in d3 he went crazy. but you hung in there despite me being extremely annoying which is what caused me to change my reads d3

Well, just reading the thread and getting reads off that is easy, actually doing analysis on players and posting it and trying to convince others, using meta, etc. is something else and it's not something you bothered with. When I did do so and people barely/didn't respond to it and still happily voted for me, it doesn't particularly make the game very fun.


yeah I guess it's a debate over the importance of appearing townie. my town play used to be very townie.. my posts were long and full of analysis/quotes etc. it didn't do me any good though, i would overthink the game and end up with TERRIBLE reads all game long which often ended up with me getting mislynched near endgame. i tried playing 'less townie' in This Town Ain't Big Enough and my reads were better in that game than they usually are. That being said, it didn't take a genius to figure out who was scum in that game so it might not be the best evidence. But it worked, so I tried the same thing this game and it went pretty well imo.

I wasn't concerned in the slightest about being mislynched. I had very strong town reads on hapa/prom, and I trusted that as long as one of them was still in the game they would be able to read me and convince everyone else not to lynch me. Had I felt more pressure I probably would have made longer posts and stuff like that.

Here's the thought process:

You are town, and you know you are town. You start off by playing in a way that sets yourself up to come under a lot of fire. Then you look at all the people who are accusing you and try to figure out which of them are genuinely trying to figure out your alignment, and which of them are taking the easy way out by voting for "lynchbait." Last game it was keir, and this game it was jay. It's kinda interesting that they both used the same arguments to accuse me.... my meta. Neither were concerned with what my actual posts said or what my reads are, they were both happy to condemn me base on meta alone while other people in the game said I was suspicious, but they weren't solely concerned with the meta argument.

A lot of people will say that that's a terrible way to play because it's selfish and puts the other townies in a bad position and I agree with that. I probably won't do stuff like that again, but it was fun in these two games.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 09 2013 01:12 GMT
#781
On March 09 2013 10:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If playing "more townie" made you a worse townie then you're confused about what being a good townie is. I think the way you played this game is find, people find methods of scumhunting that work for them but you need to make it very clear to people what you are trying to do. If you had made a post like this during the actual game, I would have been pretty much convinced that you're real town.

I also tend to get caught up in second guesses when my super aggressive play tends to lead me in the right direction more than my levelheaded inquisitive one does. The trick is finding out what works about that aggression and employing it in a way that doesn't hurt town at all.


At what point in the game does it make sense to say "I was trying to match my lurky scum meta on purpose?" Say I roll town, and I start off D1 by lurking again. It creates a bunch of wifom about whether I'm really town, or scum trying to cash in on other people's memories of the time I rolled town and intentionally matched my scum meta. Admitting that I was playing intentionally scummy on purpose means that it's no longer a viable tactic...... Which is why I can't ever do it again, lol.

inb4 miller claim jokes
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 03:45:18
March 09 2013 03:33 GMT
#786
lol oh yeah, i actually did read my role pm at the start

is there going to be a post-game write up or anything like that?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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