EPTjay could you give me a three sentence explanation of what you think of Vivax.
Vivax my pizza-loving friend, could you tell me what you think of Jay.
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jay could you give me a three sentence explanation of what you think of Vivax. Vivax my pizza-loving friend, could you tell me what you think of Jay. | ||
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yes, I agree. Why do you think he is scum. | ||
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Jay: thoughts on Vivax. hapa, why do you think Vivax is not scum? | ||
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This isn't because I don't want to lynch Vivax. I do. he is scum. But What hapa said is true, we should use the length of the day to our advantage. We have control of the length of the day and we need some more input from our lurkier friends, Thrawn for instance. So for now I am unvoting because I believe in the 72 hour day one and a town in which everyone participates. | ||
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On March 06 2013 09:01 Hapahauli wrote: While I go grab dinner, can both of you (Prome and Vivax) try to talk out whatever it is you disagree with? Also @ Prome You went from "Hapa is scum" to agreeing with everything I've been saying over the course of 5 hours... what happened :3 You started saying shit I agreed with. My read evolved. I didn't like the way you started and I didn't feel you were pressuring like a Hapa I know and love. After I accused you you started playing way better and more towards what I expect from you. Also you started saying things I agreed with, which made you much townier in my eyes. Vivax: I haven't talked about your responses to my case on you be ause all that has happened is you have called me a liar when I was accurately representing your play. I'm not changing that read because nothing has changed you are still scum for the same reasons I said you were earlier. The only person I'd lynch besides you right now is jay and I'd prefer you swing first. | ||
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On March 06 2013 08:36 Vivax wrote: I kinda respect your opinion you gave me on Prom and Artanis. The main points keeping me set on lynching Prom were that he lied about what I did without replying back to my counter arguments or adapting his read on me, I already mentioned this. I found Artanis scummy cause he seemed to have the intention to attack you for giving townreads to so many players which I saw as towntell instead. He also called that process "buddying" and not giving townreads so it looked like he was trying to distort things. Both Prom and Artanis used the buddying argument which is an argument that you can only use to call people scum of whom you think they are buddying townies, cause I don't think that you would fear scum buddying scum, that doesn't make much sense. So it kinda showed me that Artanis had extra information about the people you supposedly buddied and was afraid of townies trusting each other so quickly. Prom used the buddying argument too but it actually was consistent given his townread on Dandel. It's hard for me to let go of my Artanis scumread given this reasoning, I'd rather believe Prom to be scum cause he so openly lies about me and ignores the replies. But the more the game goes on the more I notice he's being quite active and confrontational and asking question so I'm slowly moving towards the town end of things with him. I still want him to correct what he said about me "buddying" artanis and saying I didn't push my reads cause that's simply not true. Dandel would be more of a policy lynch. His trolly, unreadable play didn't help anyone so I want him to play more pro-town and make himself more transparent. Now that people are asking him about me the process has seemingly started so I feel free to cut him out from my lynch choices. Currently: Artanis>Jay>Prom its on this page. | ||
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On March 06 2013 09:39 Hapahauli wrote: Prome - he does have a point. He's been very vocal about lynching Artanis all game. What are the other reasons you think Vivax is scum? No, he has frequently said that Artanis is scum. That isn't the same as trying to get him lynched. If I ended all of my posts with "lynch thrawn" that would not be pushing for a thrawn lynch. That would just be saying to lynch thrawn. my notes suggest that Vivax is scummier than Jay who in turn is scummier than thrawn. My don't lynch today no matter what list is you, me, DrH and Artanis. Dan and CC are in my probably town but still useless trolls list. I don't want to lynch Thrawn yet, I want to wait for him to post before calling him scum though, I'd say we give him 24 hours and see what he can do with it. If he doesn't do anything to suggest we don't lynch him we lynch him. If he comes back and shows us he is town we lynch Vivax. If Vivax shows he is town (some fucking how) we lynch jay. that is where my thoughts stand right now and I honestly don't see it changing without a flip. | ||
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Vivax is scum because 1) meta before I explained what about his meta I found scummy. He is someone I think is good enough to change his meta when he knows what he needs to change it to. 2) He says I'm lying about him and his play but despite that clearly did not want to lynch me for it until i brought it up in the thread when suddenly Artanis/Jay/Me were all the same level of scum. I have a very hard time reconciling a townie player believing someone is lying about them to make a case not think ing that person is the scummiest person ever. 3) see 1 and 2 Vivax has done a good job adhering to his town meta later into this day though and i rather like that. AS much as I think he is good enough to do that as scum I know how hard it is. His responses to my tunnel/pressure are enough to give him some townie points. I'm now lowering him to the lynchable level of thrawn and jay. Of those three I think i prefer the lynch on jay due to his overall lurk and sheep as well as the inconsistencies in his stated day one confidence. But I'm certainly not going to hammer him yet. | ||
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On March 06 2013 12:43 Hapahauli wrote: His "shift" has been far too extreme and has sounded too genuine to make me think it is fake. Meh. I don't like this very much. I think Vivax has expressed much support in killing you, but hasn't communicated his intent all that clearly. As I say, its possible that Vivax is town and I would prefer a jay lynch at the moment. The second part feels very scummy to me but perhaps you are right and he is just communicating it terribly. That is possible but I would expect him to be better than that. | ||
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as soon as the day post comes up I am going to ask for a full claim. We are at 7-1 and will be at 6-1 after the day post. If there is only one more blue claim and it is HoP we have two confirmed town and a pool of five to look into for scum. If there are two blue claims either doc/cop or HoP/HoP we lynch into the blues and auto win. Because of DrH's early game claim scum knows we have no useful power roles so having them out in the open doesn't hurt us. This post by Vivax feels like a bus to me, he is taking credit for a lynch which he had not voted until the hammer when it was clear we were going to hammer jay anyway and he is calling me scum bussing my buddy when anyone who knows my meta (which Vivax does) knows I am obvious town here. At this point I'd call Hapa, Artanis, DrH, Thrawn and myself confirmed town. In order of most likely the last scum is Vivax>CC=Dan unless of course the claims come out funny. So things to do today 1) all blues claim 2) lynch Vivax barring something weird in the claims Scum needs three mislynches to win, those three have to be the two town out of cc/vivax/dan and one of the obvious townies in me/thrawn/hapa/drh/artanis to get that lynch the scum needs to push the me/thrawn lynch hard today to get out of having us be even more obvious townies later in the game. He'll have to put himself out in the open to do this and will therefore die a horrible death. We need to lynch into Vivax/dan/cc in whatever order (my preference being Vivax first) and we will win. So, I ask either for scum to concede or for our slow push to victory to being with a vivax lynch. | ||
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