British Empire Mini Mafia II - Page 30

On March 06 2013 05:48 jaybrundage wrote:

Can you start contributing your entire filter is one liners. You post but there isn't any content to it. The first page of your filter is trolling. The second is passing comments. You had some reasoning last time I played with you.

On March 06 2013 08:43 jaybrundage wrote:

So wouldnt that make me town. Normal mini IV was a bad game for me. As i got mislynched i was too spammy that game. And I didn't consolidate to my reads at all. I just was raging people were gonna mislynch me. So i was willing to vote anyone that wasn't me. I have been trying to explain my reasoning this game and show my intentions. If you read other town games from me you can see my play better.

I'm not just talking badly about Dandel. I would of been fine to lynch him although his recent posting is not nearly as bad.. But the fact that you are so scummy holds my hand. You complete flip on Artanis was suspect. Even now hes your top scum read. But you wanted to get on his good side with wanted to lynch someone else. Also your point against me is really there. Why do you want to lynch me. Cause I have been playing more townie then the last game we were in?

He's sure I'm scum and doesn't like Dandel but doesn't threaten him with a lynch to get him to play properly.

On March 08 2013 01:27 Hapahauli wrote:


Touche.

However I just need to hear more from CC. I don't have any reason to think he's town right now - CC's been useless and lurky, and I know he's more than capable of being an active presence as town.

On March 08 2013 01:27 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


What?

On March 08 2013 01:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


*Sigh* of all the people here Hapa, you should know I'm town (Barring the scum guy left). Do you REALLY think I voted Jay first and just let him die as his scummate? C'mon.

On March 06 2013 17:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Morning.

Jay looks awful. It makes little sense that he'd resign this easily while contributing absolutely nothing. Since there's no vigi possible in any of the setups and we can be pretty sure scum won't shoot him when he isn't scum we'd have this question roaming around town until we decide to lynch him. I want to give Jay one last chance to come up with his own reads before anyone hammers him though. The lynch is going very easily, but it could be a bus so eh.

Regarding Vivax:
I still think the post I made on him regarding the FoS thing is strong, and it's still a cause for concern. However, his posting as of late has been good and that can't be overlooked. I'm not willing to lynch him right now after the interactions he's had with Promethelax especially, in which I'd say the latter didn't look as good. He seems suspicious of everyone, is throwing his votes around and commenting on a lot of things. If he's scum, I should be able to find something other than the nugget I had. I haven't yet. Prome's case on him feels weak.

Regarding his case on me:
He keeps stressing the point about me calling out Hapa on his town reads and calling it buddying. I found it suspicious that he was happy to call people townie for such little reason, which presumed me to believe he was trying to gain favour from people. Furthermore, I hadn't even read my role yet so there was little reason for me to pursue scum agenda there. I didn't even make reads on the guys he called green yet, I just saw that post, had read the posts before and thought "what, how can you say that after this little content" after which I posted the comment I did.

Regarding Helvetica's post:
His vote post is so wishy washy that it's obviously just a pressure vote rather than actually suspecting me. His main argument is that I'm noncommital; I'm always noncommital. I'm an honest person in character and find it difficult to overexaggerate things or try to mislead people, so I don't do those things. I push people as strong as my case is, and my case on Vivax rested on the meta argument I provided before. I don't pretend to be more confident then I am. As for the argument that Prome is playing different from his meta: I haven't digged into it yet. You can't expect me to meta read every single player in the game before making statements about them.

Tl;dr I'm not willing to lynch Vivax anymore until I get more evidence that he is scum and I'm good with a jay lynch unless he suddenly improves strongly. I still want to give him a chance to reply though.
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On March 06 2013 18:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I want to lynch Jay if he doesn't strongly up his game. Prome is my second suspect but I still need to do more research for that which I'm too lazy to do right now but will get to later.

On March 07 2013 18:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I think Vivax is town now.. At this point, people were suspecting Prome a bit but no one was really questioning me. Given Prome's tunneling on Vivax he could easily have gotten away with continued tunneling on Prome, yet he didn't and changed his opinion, albeit on something retarded.

Jay didn't mention me, no. He didn't even answer the question I asked him. Why would a scum master plan include an unanswered question? He also never discussed me because by the time there was actually some suspicion on me not from you, he already went into resignation mode. All he did until then was answer about whatever was the town's main suspect. He has almost no content in his filter about anything else. I've already commented on the rest of your reasons for calling me scum. As to anyone calling me scum for not being super duper convinced about people: Check my meta. I never am. I'm also not a veteran, I've just been around for a long time. That doesn't mean I've played a lot of games.
Regarding the town PM claim thingy; I made sure to check the OP to see if it's in there before I said anything as I didn't want to cheat.

Just checked out Promethelax' meta. Unfortunately it's inconclusive as the last scum game he's played has been a while ago. In this game, he's sheeped my opinions at the start, also commenting on Hapa calling other people town quickly, though he stepped off of it about as quickly as I did. His interactions seem to be suspicious of everyone, but overly so. Vivax indicated that he didn't like both my, your and Jay's posting. Continuously going on about the order of it feels disgenuine. He calls Vivax scum for not actually wanting to get his scumreads lynched despite the fact that he's been hammering on me all game for a 180 when he asked me to lynch you. I've finally decided that I lean town on that; it feels too ballsy and spontaneous for scum. The rest of Prome's filter focuses nearly entirely on Vivax, calling him scum with nigh every post. Fuck, despite that some things feel off in his filter I can't reconcile this idea with Prome being scum. If he is indeed scum and gets Vivax lynched as green, he'd look terrible and definitely not survive two more lynches. He also looks to be genuinely wanting a Vivax lynch.

With Hapa claiming to be the other named VT, he's obviously town but I already felt that way about him. That leaves Dandel Ion, Thrawn, and Mr. Cheesecake . Dandel Ion seems to be a massive troll that likes posting a bunch of oneliners that mean nothing. In his scum game though he was a lot more serious, as was the case in his first scum game. Even in his accusatory posts as town, he's more jovial than as scum. His current game fits his meta as town.

Thrawn has played a mildly active game at best. In his most recent scum game he got caught on day 1. The other scumgame he played he also had a short 8-page filter in a 200 page game. In this town needs guns, he was more active, though still not as much as others. Thrawn has been more active this game. His hammer of Jay felt premature but I don't think it's a scumtell.
Cheesecake's activity has been depressingly low and his filter is awful. He's doing nothing, but it doesn't line up with both his town and scum meta so it's not alignment revealing. In his godfather scum game he played a very pandering game, trying to stay on everyone's good side. The scum game's a few months back so it could be that he's learned from then. Cheesecake's played a poor game so far. What's weird is how he formulated his reads. First he said he wants to lynch Vivax/Jay/Prome with me as a maybe, then he indicates I'm now his main suspect with Promethelax and Vivax also being good candidates. His hammering on Jay could be a bus, and it's the only serious pressure he's given anyone. Also.



What's changed in these times? You've made a full 180 and you haven't said why. You haven't contributed to town other than telling your reads when prompted, you've been a lot less active than you have in your previous games, and your filter is pretty bad. Given I don't see scum elsewhere Cheesecake is my current top suspect. No reasoning for read changes, and is playing a jovial game which contradicts his recent town game.

##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake

On March 08 2013 01:48 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
What did Artanis do the entirety of D1? Tunnel Vivax. Scum love to do this -- See: DYH (Witchcraft), Snarfs (Nomination). They focus on one person to divert the attention away from their scumbuddy. Morning arrives and he posts this:

On March 07 2013 18:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I think Vivax is town now.. At this point, people were suspecting Prome a bit but no one was really questioning me. Given Prome's tunneling on Vivax he could easily have gotten away with continued tunneling on Prome, yet he didn't and changed his opinion, albeit on something retarded.

Jay didn't mention me, no. He didn't even answer the question I asked him. Why would a scum master plan include an unanswered question? He also never discussed me because by the time there was actually some suspicion on me not from you, he already went into resignation mode. All he did until then was answer about whatever was the town's main suspect. He has almost no content in his filter about anything else. I've already commented on the rest of your reasons for calling me scum. As to anyone calling me scum for not being super duper convinced about people: Check my meta. I never am. I'm also not a veteran, I've just been around for a long time. That doesn't mean I've played a lot of games.
Regarding the town PM claim thingy; I made sure to check the OP to see if it's in there before I said anything as I didn't want to cheat.

Just checked out Promethelax' meta. Unfortunately it's inconclusive as the last scum game he's played has been a while ago. In this game, he's sheeped my opinions at the start, also commenting on Hapa calling other people town quickly, though he stepped off of it about as quickly as I did. His interactions seem to be suspicious of everyone, but overly so. Vivax indicated that he didn't like both my, your and Jay's posting. Continuously going on about the order of it feels disgenuine. He calls Vivax scum for not actually wanting to get his scumreads lynched despite the fact that he's been hammering on me all game for a 180 when he asked me to lynch you. I've finally decided that I lean town on that; it feels too ballsy and spontaneous for scum. The rest of Prome's filter focuses nearly entirely on Vivax, calling him scum with nigh every post. Fuck, despite that some things feel off in his filter I can't reconcile this idea with Prome being scum. If he is indeed scum and gets Vivax lynched as green, he'd look terrible and definitely not survive two more lynches. He also looks to be genuinely wanting a Vivax lynch.

With Hapa claiming to be the other named VT, he's obviously town but I already felt that way about him. That leaves Dandel Ion, Thrawn, and Mr. Cheesecake . Dandel Ion seems to be a massive troll that likes posting a bunch of oneliners that mean nothing. In his scum game though he was a lot more serious, as was the case in his first scum game. Even in his accusatory posts as town, he's more jovial than as scum. His current game fits his meta as town.

Thrawn has played a mildly active game at best. In his most recent scum game he got caught on day 1. The other scumgame he played he also had a short 8-page filter in a 200 page game. In this town needs guns, he was more active, though still not as much as others. Thrawn has been more active this game. His hammer of Jay felt premature but I don't think it's a scumtell.
Cheesecake's activity has been depressingly low and his filter is awful. He's doing nothing, but it doesn't line up with both his town and scum meta so it's not alignment revealing. In his godfather scum game he played a very pandering game, trying to stay on everyone's good side. The scum game's a few months back so it could be that he's learned from then. Cheesecake's played a poor game so far. What's weird is how he formulated his reads. First he said he wants to lynch Vivax/Jay/Prome with me as a maybe, then he indicates I'm now his main suspect with Promethelax and Vivax also being good candidates. His hammering on Jay could be a bus, and it's the only serious pressure he's given anyone. Also.



What's changed in these times? You've made a full 180 and you haven't said why. You haven't contributed to town other than telling your reads when prompted, you've been a lot less active than you have in your previous games, and your filter is pretty bad. Given I don't see scum elsewhere Cheesecake is my current top suspect. No reasoning for read changes, and is playing a jovial game which contradicts his recent town game.

##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake

What is Artanis doing with this post?

A) Picking on weak players. This would be myself admittedly, Dandel, and somewhat Thrawn. <--- Scum agenda

B) Says I hammered Jay. What?

C) Plays the "I'm not a vet so I'm not right all the time" card.

I also have the luxury of knowing he is voting for town.

On March 08 2013 01:54 Vivax wrote:
Dandel is actually probably town for something jay said under the assumption that he played scum conservatively not attracting attention to his teammates.

Jay's filter leaves Artanis and thrawn as options.

On March 05 2013 19:31 jaybrundage wrote:
Meh, don't like that we already have an outed blue already. But whatever, no reason crying over spilled claims. Not sure what I think about the early votes. Its prolly people fooling around OR SCUM TRYING TO GET AN EASY LYNCH o.o
Buuuuut prolly za jokes.



Also scum Yamato did this last game. And he got away with it D:


YOU KNOW THIS AND STILL VOTE ME QQ