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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 07 2013 00:36 GMT
#541
i should be tripping fairly soon (actually any minute now) so i'm out for (maybe) the rest of the evening. if i post in the next few hours don't read them (the posts) lol
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 07 2013 00:37 GMT
#542
On March 07 2013 09:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
Nah I just figured if you didn't answer the first time, you wouldn't the second time either. You still didn't. So whatevs.


well do you think i'm scum or what? i'll play nice this time
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 07 2013 00:38 GMT
#543
On March 07 2013 09:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 09:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
Nah I just figured if you didn't answer the first time, you wouldn't the second time either. You still didn't. So whatevs.


well do you think i'm scum or what? i'll play nice this time

If I express a wish to put a noose around your neck, what do you think my opinion is on you?
A backwards poet writes inverse.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 07 2013 00:40 GMT
#544
On March 07 2013 09:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 09:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 07 2013 09:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
Nah I just figured if you didn't answer the first time, you wouldn't the second time either. You still didn't. So whatevs.


well do you think i'm scum or what? i'll play nice this time

If I express a wish to put a noose around your neck, what do you think my opinion is on you?


i say it's not much of an opinion when you've only listed 3 names with no reasoning

the reason you say i'm scum is because I hammered Jay after saying I wouldn't? how does that mean thrawn=scum?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 07 2013 00:43 GMT
#545
On March 07 2013 09:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 09:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 07 2013 09:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 07 2013 09:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
Nah I just figured if you didn't answer the first time, you wouldn't the second time either. You still didn't. So whatevs.


well do you think i'm scum or what? i'll play nice this time

If I express a wish to put a noose around your neck, what do you think my opinion is on you?


i say it's not much of an opinion when you've only listed 3 names with no reasoning

the reason you say i'm scum is because I hammered Jay after saying I wouldn't? how does that mean thrawn=scum?

No the point is you said that, then Artanis said he would hammer, THEN you did it.

Now you attack artanis for not being hard enough on jay.

Looks to me like you wanted to get towncreddies by first saying he should not be hammered yet, and then you realized you still wanted to be on his lynch when it turned out that you didn't actually save him (for long that is)
So, I think it was a bus.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 07 2013 00:45 GMT
#546
Anyways, I'm going to sleep, feel free to "trip" to your heart's content.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 07 2013 00:46 GMT
#547
On March 07 2013 09:43 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 09:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 07 2013 09:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 07 2013 09:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 07 2013 09:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
Nah I just figured if you didn't answer the first time, you wouldn't the second time either. You still didn't. So whatevs.


well do you think i'm scum or what? i'll play nice this time

If I express a wish to put a noose around your neck, what do you think my opinion is on you?


i say it's not much of an opinion when you've only listed 3 names with no reasoning

the reason you say i'm scum is because I hammered Jay after saying I wouldn't? how does that mean thrawn=scum?

No the point is you said that, then Artanis said he would hammer, THEN you did it.

Now you attack artanis for not being hard enough on jay.


show me where artanis said he would hammer jay
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22420 Posts
March 07 2013 00:48 GMT
#548
I wasn't confident in my reads. I wanted to act like i was to try to put more pressure on them (dandel, vivax)


Just found this one in jay's filter. Made me lol.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22420 Posts
March 07 2013 00:56 GMT
#549
On March 06 2013 10:40 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 09:39 Hapahauli wrote:
Prome - he does have a point. He's been very vocal about lynching Artanis all game. What are the other reasons you think Vivax is scum?


No, he has frequently said that Artanis is scum. That isn't the same as trying to get him lynched. If I ended all of my posts with "lynch thrawn" that would not be pushing for a thrawn lynch. That would just be saying to lynch thrawn.

my notes suggest that Vivax is scummier than Jay who in turn is scummier than thrawn. My don't lynch today no matter what list is you, me, DrH and Artanis. Dan and CC are in my probably town but still useless trolls list.

I don't want to lynch Thrawn yet, I want to wait for him to post before calling him scum though, I'd say we give him 24 hours and see what he can do with it. If he doesn't do anything to suggest we don't lynch him we lynch him. If he comes back and shows us he is town we lynch Vivax. If Vivax shows he is town (some fucking how) we lynch jay.

that is where my thoughts stand right now and I honestly don't see it changing without a flip.


Why you still say I'm scum tho.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22420 Posts
March 07 2013 01:06 GMT
#550
On March 06 2013 05:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also in case Vivax flips green, since we can't talk at night anymore and I might get killed, I'd want Promethelax looked at next in case I get shot.


This doesn't make any sense why would scum shoot someone who pushes townies into a lynch.

On March 06 2013 05:52 Promethelax wrote:
-snip-
Look: if I am night killed after the vivax lynch look at Jay.

-help-


This does somewhat make sense.

Prom help in lynching Artanis.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
March 07 2013 01:29 GMT
#551
If any of you dudes think im scum, lol plz gtfos son.Obviously bussed , just like i done did snarfs.

Hapa and thrawn are town. Jay would have zero reason to switch on the thrawn lynch wagon if he were his scumbuddy, coulda hit vivax easily. Dandel, idk if you are town after this flip. Jay wouldnt vote you with a ten foot pole, only talk smack.

Artanis has a good chance to flip scum imo. I also think prom and vivax are good candidates for today.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 07 2013 02:56 GMT
#552
wow mr CC fucking deja vu
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 07 2013 03:46 GMT
#553
i wonder if i will quadruple-post again like last night

why nobody here?

any thoughts on artanis/dandel?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 07 2013 06:37 GMT
#554
hello?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 07 2013 07:28 GMT
#555
y no one talk =(

Why do Artanis and Mr.CC not care about the town?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 07 2013 07:46 GMT
#556
It's hard to post when you're asleep Hapa. I'll work on a big post in a minute. Ask me anything and I'll include it in there.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 07 2013 07:49 GMT
#557
But I gotta sleep =/

Just read-dump. I have no idea where you stand right now.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 07 2013 09:52 GMT
#558
On March 07 2013 09:02 Vivax wrote:
I just read jay's filter it makes me confident in Artanis being scum and Prom actually town. This isn't definite but I'm willing to lynch Artanis over Prom currently.

No mentioning of Artanis whatsoever except for once where he called me scummy for attacking Artanis and then backing off him.

Prom say goodbye to your relationship and be prepared for my ranting about you attacking me in such scummy and dishonest ways if you are indeed town.

##Unvote
##Vote Artanis

I think Vivax is town now.. At this point, people were suspecting Prome a bit but no one was really questioning me. Given Prome's tunneling on Vivax he could easily have gotten away with continued tunneling on Prome, yet he didn't and changed his opinion, albeit on something retarded.

Jay didn't mention me, no. He didn't even answer the question I asked him. Why would a scum master plan include an unanswered question? He also never discussed me because by the time there was actually some suspicion on me not from you, he already went into resignation mode. All he did until then was answer about whatever was the town's main suspect. He has almost no content in his filter about anything else. I've already commented on the rest of your reasons for calling me scum. As to anyone calling me scum for not being super duper convinced about people: Check my meta. I never am. I'm also not a veteran, I've just been around for a long time. That doesn't mean I've played a lot of games.
Regarding the town PM claim thingy; I made sure to check the OP to see if it's in there before I said anything as I didn't want to cheat.

Just checked out Promethelax' meta. Unfortunately it's inconclusive as the last scum game he's played has been a while ago. In this game, he's sheeped my opinions at the start, also commenting on Hapa calling other people town quickly, though he stepped off of it about as quickly as I did. His interactions seem to be suspicious of everyone, but overly so. Vivax indicated that he didn't like both my, your and Jay's posting. Continuously going on about the order of it feels disgenuine. He calls Vivax scum for not actually wanting to get his scumreads lynched despite the fact that he's been hammering on me all game for a 180 when he asked me to lynch you. I've finally decided that I lean town on that; it feels too ballsy and spontaneous for scum. The rest of Prome's filter focuses nearly entirely on Vivax, calling him scum with nigh every post. Fuck, despite that some things feel off in his filter I can't reconcile this idea with Prome being scum. If he is indeed scum and gets Vivax lynched as green, he'd look terrible and definitely not survive two more lynches. He also looks to be genuinely wanting a Vivax lynch.

With Hapa claiming to be the other named VT, he's obviously town but I already felt that way about him. That leaves Dandel Ion, Thrawn, and Mr. Cheesecake . Dandel Ion seems to be a massive troll that likes posting a bunch of oneliners that mean nothing. In his scum game though he was a lot more serious, as was the case in his first scum game. Even in his accusatory posts as town, he's more jovial than as scum. His current game fits his meta as town.

Thrawn has played a mildly active game at best. In his most recent scum game he got caught on day 1. The other scumgame he played he also had a short 8-page filter in a 200 page game. In this town needs guns, he was more active, though still not as much as others. Thrawn has been more active this game. His hammer of Jay felt premature but I don't think it's a scumtell.
Cheesecake's activity has been depressingly low and his filter is awful. He's doing nothing, but it doesn't line up with both his town and scum meta so it's not alignment revealing. In his godfather scum game he played a very pandering game, trying to stay on everyone's good side. The scum game's a few months back so it could be that he's learned from then. Cheesecake's played a poor game so far. What's weird is how he formulated his reads. First he said he wants to lynch Vivax/Jay/Prome with me as a maybe, then he indicates I'm now his main suspect with Promethelax and Vivax also being good candidates. His hammering on Jay could be a bus, and it's the only serious pressure he's given anyone. Also.
On March 06 2013 02:13 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Just to give a scummy little list here I think Hapa, Dr.H, Dandel, Artanis and myself are town. Thrawn kinda null but he's cool atm.
I'll lynch me a Vivax, Prom, or Jay today. I'll throw a dart at a board and see which one I hit.

On March 06 2013 13:37 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'll be happy with any lynch that is Vivax / Jay / Artanis (maybe?) / Prom. Basically half the thread, which is cool. Jay is the optimal starting point.

On March 07 2013 10:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Artanis has a good chance to flip scum imo. I also think prom and vivax are good candidates for today.

What's changed in these times? You've made a full 180 and you haven't said why. You haven't contributed to town other than telling your reads when prompted, you've been a lot less active than you have in your previous games, and your filter is pretty bad. Given I don't see scum elsewhere Cheesecake is my current top suspect. No reasoning for read changes, and is playing a jovial game which contradicts his recent town game.

##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 07 2013 12:25 GMT
#559
Vote Count


Artanis[Xp] (1) - Vivax

Mr. Cheesecake (1) - Artanis[Xp]

Not Voting (5) - Hapahauli, Dandel Ion, Promethelax, Mr. Cheesecake, thrawn2112




With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 07 2013 13:47 GMT
#560
Artanis, you are using the database for your meta? Its a little out of date.

CC's most recent scum game: nomination
Mine: LX

having looked at the jay bussing of Xatalos again Hapa is right, they were on each other 100% all game long. There were votes and calling out and everything. So for now I'm backing off of vivax, although he is still up there I'm going to focus my efforts on cc and dan. I'd like some real analysis from both of them (and vivax) on their top scum suspects. Vivax's post on Artanis doesn't count because its bad.

Thrawn, now that you are you again I'd like to hear something on the nature of your reads as well.

I think Hapa and I should refrain from posting our thoughts for a little while as I'd like contributions from these people without them being allowed to sheep our ideas. Hapa, will you agree to this with me? Lets give them say, 12 hours to get their analysis into the thread without our influence. we have infinite days, lets use them to our advantage.
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