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On March 16 2013 00:10 Oatsmaster wrote: LOLOL WHAT.
Anyway makes foolishness scum more than ever.
Im instantly trusting that post cause 1. Greymist posted it. <3 2. It makes sense to me to go from scum-town as opposed to the other way around.
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Ok. I highly HIGHLY doubt that the mods are lying. They havent done so so far, except with Cora and I presume that was death framer.
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On March 14 2013 01:13 kitaman27 wrote: The following message has been sent by Plexa:
Ядерное оружие не являются подделкой.
On March 16 2013 00:04 GreYMisT wrote: MODERATOR ANNOUNCEMENT!
The illusions fade as the lies are dispersed from the town. cDgCorazon's True Alignment is revealed!
cDgCorazon (Palmar), was TOWN
Yeah plexa didnt post the second one.
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On March 16 2013 00:18 austinmcc wrote: Oats, I like to speculate so much because it's all part of the puzzle. I like the puzzle aspect of the game.
Based on your filter, and what people are saying, you're off the hook. It's not cause you don't make big paragraphs. It's because, often, I don't follow your leaps and suspicions. If I can't follow them, I tend to assume they're fabricated and you're scum just trying to be active/have a bunch of scumreads for mislynch targets.
My MAIN reason to think you're scum this game, as of now, is the prplhz vote steal. You fit that bill best imo. That's an important thing, that people need to not forget, but it's not the main issue for now. Bigger things afoot.
The thing is, that evidence is what you think of how you would play. Like you think that you would steal vote, then post about Vivax? Or something. I cant remember what I even posted.
Like its total circumstantial evidence that puts me in the same group as like 5 other people that you said earlier, and it seems like you kinda arbitrarily chose me.
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On March 16 2013 00:25 Vivax wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 16 2013 00:23 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 00:20 slOosh wrote:On March 16 2013 00:18 marvellosity wrote: Why would mafia death frame a townie as mafia just to reveal him as town later ? That makes absolutely no sense. 12 hours of discussion based on incorrect information? A townie would never use a death frame? 3rd party wouldn't even know how to use it? My point is this. If Corazon flips townie with the nightpost, I look awful immediately. We can agree on this yes? There's no arguing with the hosts, there's no speculation on any abilities, I simply look awful. In this scenario, there's a lot of doubt about what happened, enough in fact that I'm still pretty convinced Corazon was mafia. Why do it in a manner that makes me look less bad than if Corazon had simply flipped townie in the nightpost? Exactly cause it makes you look less bad. And WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM. We don't talk about this derp ability. We talk about reads now. Marv got a townie lynched, Foolishness defended him. Take your pick.
Thats a very simplistic way to view the situation.
Why is foolishness defending lynchbait, and Marv pushing lynch bait indicative of their alignment?
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On March 16 2013 00:59 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 00:51 marvellosity wrote:On March 16 2013 00:50 Vivax wrote: Seriously where the fuck am I. I wish I hadn't to post this much but if you don't marv infests others. So you have absolutely nothing to say about the fact that almost exactly this same thing happened in Personality 1? No? I'll trust both hosts telling me it's a fact. If they trolled me I don't know, but that's the choice I make. Did the hosts comment on the flip in personality? I don't think so cause it wasn't delayed as far as I grasp. And if the hosts comment on it here it's reason enough to believe it. Else they would just drop the announcement and not comment on it.
Why are you resorting to predicting Hosts actions in a way that makes no sense in order to prove your point?
All you are saying against this is, YOU ARE WRONG LOOLOOL.
Marv has provided actual explanation as to how this happens. You didnt.
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DP keeps sniping shit.
Also keeps saying that he hasnt read the thread. >>>>.<<<<< Like a ton of times.
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On March 16 2013 01:58 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 16 2013 01:46 Stutters695 wrote: only issue with that list is I'm not scum. I can see where you're coming from though.
Anyway since I told the person I have to agree with in order to use the 1kp this cell has, looks like you picked a good target in your message, let's go with that
##vote: Vivax NOooo! Shoot FOOLISHNESS! I'd rather let a regular vig do it so it isn't announced and it doesn't get rb'ed. Worst case if foolish lives we just lynch him again and coordinate to put a scummer in second again just in case it's an indefinite thing (I also can't know if the other person already locked in his shot but if he hasn't he can vote differently, we won't shoot and he can add you and we shoot tomorrow.
Im really really confused on how this works.
You and another person have to agree on a vigi target? Is it immediately? Or at the end of the night? Also I dont see how announcing a scum vivax kill is 'safer' than annoucing a scum foolishness kill. How is it different?
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Hey anyone notice that Iamp and other people have been missing the WHOLE night so far?
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sloosh, think about it.
What use is a role that conceals alignment 12 hours after death only?
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On March 16 2013 03:21 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 02:57 Oatsmaster wrote: sloosh, think about it.
What use is a role that conceals alignment 12 hours after death only? Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 04:09 Ace wrote:On August 23 2011 19:48 Curu wrote: Pandain/Palmar were obvious lynches if bum had flipped correctly but the Framer fucked up everything from that trail too.
Maybe you should take that up with Ver and Incog. Death Millers, or any role that flips the opposite alignment on death is generally a bad thing as the Town is going to have incorrect reads for the rest of the game [12 hours] in relation to that player. Mafia of course gets a free pass. Scaling back to 12 hours is a sensible and possible nerf. Hinting that it may be false while the OP remains true and the hosts both confirming multiple times it is true is not a sensible nerf.
What is your problem with Marv's explanation?
The other game the OP was changed too. What are the hosts supposed to say if it was a 'real' death framer as you seem to think that it isnt?
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Ok if your explanation is true. WHAT IN THE WORLD IS THE POINT?
There is a point to the other way, because we may still assume that there are 5 mafia alive and that cora flipped town.
There is no point to conceal role for 12 hours only. Its not a nerf, it makes it USELESS.
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DP Why did you waste time earlier reminding us that you didnt read the thread?
Do you think foolishness is scum? If/If not, what does that mean for marv's check.
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Yes I think foolishness is probably scum because I think marv is town and I KNOW marv is a better player than me so Sheepy sheepy sheep sheep.
Holy shit you didnt actually read the check..
On March 16 2013 10:42 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 10:32 Oatsmaster wrote: DP Why did you waste time earlier reminding us that you didnt read the thread?
Do you think foolishness is scum? If/If not, what does that mean for marv's check.
Waste time? I read from page 150 or so onwards as I was reading through the thread so I could at least be involved somewhat in current discussions. I don't think anyone would have preferred it if I had replaced in only to disappear for several days reading the thread. And as for saying I hadn't read the thread. Several people were answering with some variant of 'read the thread' to simple questions. So I politely informed everyone that I just replaced in and that this thread is enormous. So I won't be caught up for a long time. This quite frankly should have been common sense and yet I had to state several times that I had in fact NOT read the thread because apparently common sense is difficult. Ironically. If YOU had read the thread or even my paltry 2 page filter you would know the answer to the second question. But because I am nice I will not tell you to "read" and in fact answer your question politely. Yes I think foolishness is probably scum because I think marv is town and I KNOW marv is a better player than me so Sheepy sheepy sheep sheep. As for the check. It is incredibly unreliable as he had to announce it before hand which you and everyone should know already so I am guessing that question is some sort of test as to whether I, in fact, possess the common knowledge of everyone else?
In no way does DP state that he in fact is town, and coupled with his scumread on Foolishness means foolishness is also probably scum.
WTF DP.
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On March 16 2013 10:42 DarthPunk wrote: Waste time? I read from page 150 or so onwards as I was reading through the thread so I could at least be involved somewhat in current discussions. I don't think anyone would have preferred it if I had replaced in only to disappear for several days reading the thread. And as for saying I hadn't read the thread. Several people were answering with some variant of 'read the thread' to simple questions. So I politely informed everyone that I just replaced in and that this thread is enormous. So I won't be caught up for a long time. This quite frankly should have been common sense and yet I had to state several times that I had in fact NOT read the thread because apparently common sense is difficult.
This is how many times you refer to reading the thread.
On March 15 2013 01:43 DarthPunk wrote: Hey marv. I am not going to get through everything I need to and as it's 4am I am rather tired. Could you be a dear and link me your case on foolishness and the main rebuttal?
On March 15 2013 08:59 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 08:55 Acrofales wrote:On March 15 2013 08:52 DarthPunk wrote:On March 15 2013 08:48 Acrofales wrote:On March 15 2013 07:51 Foolishness wrote: Also, I just found this out, but apparently instead of me not getting lynched the person with the second most votes gets lynched instead. Just for the very remote possibility this is true: ##unvote ##vote CoraI want the second highest vote to be my strongest scumread. Err. What the fuck? why were you NOT voting for your strongest town read before? Because he wasn't getting lynched. I think Foolishness is scum too. Foolishness is more dangerous than Cora. You could... read my filter? Yeah. I could read your filter but it would have to get behind 120 pages of thread I still need to read and several more filters before I get to yours I am afraid. But fair enough I guess.
On March 15 2013 11:14 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 11:05 Vivax wrote:On March 15 2013 11:02 DarthPunk wrote: Yeah I actually have to agree with VIVAX on it being doubtful that corazon would try and kill himself as scum day 2. Not only is that against every instinct you have as scum. which is generally SURVIVE! SURVIVE! But I am sure his scummer friends would have something to say about him being suicidal.
The timing to say this is pretty scummy given you've almost not been pushing anything this day. The timing to say this is scummy if Cora flips town, that is. Regardless of the timing, It is true. As for not pushing anything, well I have only read 52 pages of a 160+ plus game I am not nearly up to speed. There is an almost certain lynch on foolishness that I am pretty much sheeping marv on while I catch up so I don't see the value in pushing anything whilst I am as ill informed as I am currently and certainly don't feel the need to do so just to keep up appearances. That said if something so basic as the fact that scum don't generally try to kill themselves when, in fact, killing themselves is an antithesis to their very purpose in the game comes along; I don't feel the need to not state my agreement with it simply because the circumstances of my arrival have prevented me from contributing much prior to that
On March 15 2013 11:16 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 11:07 Promethelax wrote:On March 15 2013 11:02 DarthPunk wrote: Yeah I actually have to agree with VIVAX on it being doubtful that corazon would try and kill himself as scum day 2. Not only is that against every instinct you have as scum. which is generally SURVIVE! SURVIVE! But I am sure his scummer friends would have something to say about him being suicidal.
Hey oldest friend who I've missed This post is shit You add nothing at all To the Marv/fool brawl Could you give me a read list? I think yamato is town. I think marv is probably town and I am sheeping marv while I catch up.
On March 15 2013 11:19 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 11:17 Vivax wrote: Scratch that actually he has a point, I remember how I felt replacing into Themed Game and barely being able to catch up.
(Funny enough the first two guys I wanted to lynch were scum)/Swag Yep it's really difficult. No offense to everyone who wants me to 'read' or 'push a case' For me Bugs has not even been lynched yet so give me a break. K thanks.
On March 15 2013 11:27 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 11:25 marvellosity wrote:Townies gonna argue with mafia, son, and vice versa. That's a fact of mafia. It was all quite civil  Yes, but Marv, and this is important, your filter is already 30+ pages. And I had to READ that marv. and i'll have to RE-READ it.
waste of space.
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STOP TALKING AND READ YOU IDIOT.
The reason why people think you are scummy, me included, is that you feel the need to respond to everything with the little information you have because you didnt finish reading the thread. Which isnt helpful.
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So you have read the thread right?
So you are now not treated as a replacement and you cannot use 'reading the thread' as an excuse ANYMORE. Welcome.
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Some of that has to be vig shots, like Iamp and SnB? Wtf.
Also yamato isnt dead.
And unless scum doublestacked Dandel, which is unlikely due to the kp involved, marv is lying.
And Marv is very likely to be scum.
Especially with his 180 on crossfire.
I would want to lynch crossfire first though.
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Yes scummy post cause I want to lynch marv but then I want to lynch crossfire.
Whatever.
The reason why I dont want to lynch marv just yet is that he might not be scum, you never know.
However the longer he stays alive, the more likely it is that Marv is scum.
So just hedging our bets.
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Actually misread Dandel's role. Im a silly bunny. + Show Spoiler +
Ok.
This means someone hit Marv probably. Which makes him not scum.. Because dandel is basically a bodyguard.
Grr.
Marv what in your reads has changed?
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