On March 14 2013 21:24 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 08:07 Foolishness wrote:
But in your first post you seemed to accuse Vivax, and now you two seem to be butt-buddies. Aren't you contradicting yourself?
No. In my first post I thought Vivax was suspicious, and I hinted at my reasoning. That story post was made in haste after reading the thread and I called him out based on gut instinct from his filter. I was in a rush cause it's the end of the school quarter here and I'm quite busy (e.g. research paper due, finals, etc.). Later in day 1 I examined the thread and I had time to analyze a few people (more on who these people are later in this post). I looked at Vivax's history and realized I made a mistake. There is a post in my filter which explains why. It should be noted that while Vivax is rather spammy and not the most coherent at times, it is 100% clear that he is putting in an effort to figure things out and get things done for the town.
Okay so here's the thing: He says he analyzed a couple people. Cool.
Town on Vivax after accusing him, purely on his meta interpretations.
Not that he actually shares those.
I somehow lost the part he writes about yamato in the quotemonster, but it's metameta too. Even some meta from completely different people, l0l. Too lazy to dig it up again, you can read it in his post yourself~.~
He also does legthy meta-blabla on marv, but I'd like to wait for marv to address that, so I'm not mentioning it yet myself.
You can read it. So, apparantly he likes to use meta, huh?
wait a minute
Show nested quote +Okay, it's definitely clear that yamato77 is mafia, but what of your other reads?
I will talk about marvellosity in a bit. After the nuke incident I believe that Crossfire is mafia. His nuke against me was an incredibly rash thing to do, especially after people in the thread were saying to hold off on killing me one more day (the same people who include a mod-confirmed townie). It makes sense from a mafia perspective. I just nuked one of their teammates so they are screwed, since dodging a nuke is near-impossible. They see this and realize that I'm on the right track in figuring them out (say for example I'm correct about marvellosity) so they nuke me immediately to prevent me from causing further damage. I myself, as mafia in past games, have done this many times. Some person comes out in the thread and kills a teammate or posts a big analysis that's very bad for our team, I shoot them immediately to stop them from doing further damage.
Also consider the fact that crossfire was in no danger of getting killed at the moment. If he was about to get lynched I can see sending out a nuke as a last ditch effort to survive or make something happen (hey I just kinda did it, though my motivation is way different). It was completely out of the blue, just as yamato's day vigi was completely out of the blue.
I analyzed this guy day 1 but didn't come up with anything conclusive. On one hand he hadn't done anything to exhibit being mafia, but nothing striking to say he was for sure town either. With his nuke shot we now know where his agenda is and what side of the town he's on.
Dang.
Analyzing CROSS didn't come up with anything conclusive?
WHAT?
He's been playing to his mafia meta TO A TEE for most of the game, and especially and purely so on day 1.
Yet there is no mention of that, what actually would have been a legit point, in favor of "QQ he nuked me so I dun like him!!!"
That is a clear sign he did not actually look at Cross, or "analyze" him, if you will.
Yet he's stated him as a higher lynch priority than marvOn what basis?
Read the above quote.
That's his thoughts on Cross.
Does it SOUND like he's more sure of him than marv? No.
He's stated marv and yamato both to be "100%". So to want to lynch cross over marv, he would have to be 100% on him as well. Does not sound like it.
-> Scum Foolishness is scared of having marv's mislynch on his hands, since it would guarantee his death in the near future, in some way. So he wants to push yamato/cross instead.
The way he's doing it however, suggests he does NOT actually want to lynch Cross. Actual legitimate arguments against Cross are not brought up, instead we get this weaksauce omgus stuff.
This can suggest two things: Either he was too lazy to put in the effort, or, he's scum with Cross and didn't want to actually nail him to the cross (huehue), at least not yet.
Neither of the two are of a townie mindset.
Seriously read the Cross part. He's trying to call him scum without getting him lynched. Clear as day.
As I noted, I'll wait for marv to address the parts about himself first, but there's more in there too.
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