Personality Mafia 2 - Page 32

On March 15 2013 22:30 Vivax wrote:
It's not me who you gotta persuade that I'm scum, marv.

On March 15 2013 22:37 Vivax wrote:
Your case is built up on me not following supersoft when I had other reads than him just cause I commented positively on other things.

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Problem?
Is now every guy scum who agrees with someone on some points but doesn't follow him in his reads?

On March 15 2013 22:51 Vivax wrote:
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Still doesn't make me scum. Every other post not spent figuring out where supersoft came from was a post trying to figure out things on my own.

This is an awful reason to argue I'm scum. In fact it still doesn't make me trust you.
I fried Corazon early over a mistake, which I wouldn't do as scum, before yamato wreaked havoc over the thread (I still think he should be lynched), how about looking for falsification and not confirmation?

On March 15 2013 23:12 Acrofales wrote:

Talking about Marv's meta, not Vivax. Marv is using his OWN meta to make a meta read on Vivax, which just seems completely pointless. Moreso because he is misquoting his own meta.

I think Vivax is probably town, he is too fucking insane to be scum (and I caught him when observing his scumgames, because he is far more placating as scum than as town). So yeah, I will shoot down bogus arguments when I see them.

On March 15 2013 23:30 iamperfection wrote:
marv i don't think vivax is scum.

I think the fact he doesn't listen to supersoft is an extremely weak point since its pretty clear he doesn't really listen to anyone or anything.

You said you found his first couple to be extremely fake to me it looks like someone that just got served a big fat slice of humble pie.

On March 15 2013 23:41 austinmcc wrote:
Vivax is not always insane, nor has he always been insane this game. He just seems to cover up his sanity with rambling/conspiracies/whatever. He's not ENTIRELY unreasonable, not even in this game.

It's not a question of sanity/no sanity. If he's insane because he finds things that aren't things, oh well. If he's insane because he finds things that are demonstrably false/he made up in the first place, then I've got more issue with it. I keep going back to him absolutely fabricating what Foolishness said, admitting to not reading the posts, and continuing to argue as to what Foolishness said when he admitted not reading. That wasn't him finding something like this plexa bit, which is a THING, even if misinterpreted. That's him creating a THING out of whole cloth, then using it to be normal vivax.

The genesis of his being vivax, in the case of the foolishness thing early, and I think in a couple other things during the game, is what points most to him being scummy. He's creating his own springboards to launch into being vivax. I don't THINK I've seen him do that as town. I don't think it's a meta thing at all, tbh, but if he were town he should be looking at what's in the thread and drawing strange conclusions, not making up what's in the thread and drawing strange conclusions.

On March 15 2013 02:41 slOosh wrote:

Why does marv keep dodging? Why does he cherry pick at small things and inflate them? Why doesn't he address the main points and accusations?

Cuz he scum.

On March 15 2013 15:08 slOosh wrote:

But yea, here to talk nevertheless. Just need direction that's all. I haven't had a chance to read your 2 mega posts on Foolishness, but his followup actions inspire no confidence, as does his nonchalant explanation of his role. Seems weird that they would choose to reveal the nature of their roles clearly - I haven't checked the votes but cora could have easily left his votes on yamato, and assuming he is town would have gotten him lynched and kept 3KP for scum this night. Uhh ... but yea that's WIFOM, which doesn't hold up to Foolishness' actions themselves indicating he is scum. Also his ability reminded me of this post.

On March 15 2013 23:48 austinmcc wrote:
Can some people who feel like they have a handle on Oats give me a small rundown of meta/what to look for to read him?

I've been looking him back over, because we've still got scum somewhere stealing prplhz's vote.

On March 15 2013 23:52 austinmcc wrote:
Specifically, as to oats, I know that he's always bouncing around, I remember always finding that scummy and him always flipping town.

Does he tend to bounce around from single target to single target? Or does he weave whoever he is scummy on atm into some kind of larger narrative, make lists, find scumteams? If anyone knows, save me the trouble plox.

On March 16 2013 00:12 Acrofales wrote:

Yeah, but which announcement is true now?

On March 16 2013 00:20 slOosh wrote:

12 hours of discussion based on incorrect information?
A townie would never use a death frame?
3rd party wouldn't even know how to use it?

On March 16 2013 00:25 kitaman27 wrote:
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