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why do you think mocsta is mafia? | ||
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On March 11 2013 12:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote: limited availability does not mean 0 availability. He should have been able to make more than one post this cycle in some form of a contribution. If you are so hesitant to off ver this early explain sloosh for me. He has his /in post only and is known for lurking hard and doing F all as scum. he's not known for not posting at all as mafia. ever. next? | ||
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On March 11 2013 17:39 supersoft wrote: that shot and check was completely unreasonable... This hasty usage of blue powers looks suspicious to me. Don't really get, why marv thinks that move was good. where did i say it was good? also ##unvote for now although apparently i forgot to use the voting thread last night anyways. | ||
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On March 11 2013 21:22 Mocsta wrote: Oohhh so yam didnt have to claim the scalp. Got it. I see. Interesting point actually. Makes me feel a lot better about prplhz. (& yam) I cant see scum making a comment like that. I don't really agree. And there's precious little else in prplhz's filter to go on. | ||
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Flicking through austin's filter, can you tell me why you felt the need to ask other people about Ver's 'unimpressive' entrance if you didn't find it scummy yourself? | ||
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On March 11 2013 17:14 Vivax wrote: Well I'm wary of agreeing with VE given the dishonest way he's posting arguments for my lynch  , I'll take a look at Bugs later when I'm back but one argument that comes to my mind spontaneously is that he kept pushing Kurumi after the announcement came so it looks strange to me that he would keep pushing him as scum knowing the announcement was right when the mod says otherwise to the whole thread, so that kinda put him on the town side of things.Otherwise, if you are scum yamato then your teammates knew that the announcement was right and I'm looking at people saying Kurumi was modconfirmed without doubting the announcement, marv especially. But that's for a lot later, I'll look at your future play now. Was just flicking through Vivax's filter to see how I felt about Foolish. Came across this bit. Just means I'm better than you bish, no hard feelings though <3 I don't particularly see what Foolish thinks he sees. | ||
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On March 11 2013 22:42 VisceraEyes wrote: I suppose you have something to say about my post on Vivax marv? I agree with Vivax that he did push Corazon, and as I'm still quite suspicious of Corazon myself it makes me like Vivax more. At the same time I'm concerned about his lack of aggression. He took up yamato and dropped it again after the role mechanic was revealed, so now I don't know where he stands. On March 11 2013 22:43 Oatsmaster wrote: Um Yay? Why are you not pushing dudes considering you dont have a lot of town reads? I'll be working on the game extensively today to try to figure some shit out (indeed I'm currently doing so). I'm aware I've not been a shining beacon of helpfulness so far. | ||
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On March 11 2013 22:54 VisceraEyes wrote: Marv could you spell out your suspicion of Cora for me? Like, for me? I know whatever it's in your filter, but if you mean it you can just repeat it for me bish do it. Yes, of course. On March 11 2013 01:44 cDgCorazon wrote: Fucking hell hosts learn to balance the game... Whether explained away as a 'joke' or not, this feels forced. Then I don't like at all his attitude towards Oats: On March 11 2013 06:20 cDgCorazon wrote: I think Strongandbig's argument is very good. It's very convincing, but we are still a long time away from the deadline. Other than that, I've just seen a lot of nonsense and posts that I cannot understand. I was the first one to start scum hunting, don't accuse me of not doing that... Also, it's a bit frustrating to try and scumhunt and then have 5 people complain that no one has scumhunted... Sounds like Corazon agrees a lot with the case, so Oats is probably mafia. Kinda fine I guess. But... On March 11 2013 08:06 cDgCorazon wrote: Dude, this shitty logic is bad for your standards Marv. Why are you attacking me for having the same view as you? We literally just said the same thing (like the case but don't want to vote for it). You are saying that you are not going to vote because it does not make Oats mafia and I said I'd rather see Yamato lynched than Oats. What is the problem with that? The thing is, Oats' meta is not the main part of the case. BnS laid out many reasons as to why he thinks Oats is scum and I just made a comment that I liked his case and that it had a lot of valid points in it. Let me ask you this Marv: Would you rather I... Say "I agree with SnB" and just vote for Oats? or Say "I think it's a good case but I'm going to continue to scumhunt and push my top scum read" If you prefer #1 it would be such a glaring scumtell. Kinda everything in here is a misrepresentation. To the first bolded bit - our attitude was not the same in any way. I said the case probably made valid points but I still thought Oats was town. As per the previous Corazon quoted, this isn't what's coming across at all, it reads like he really finds Oats scummy. His equating of what I said with what he said is just totally false. As you can see from the nested quote, I asked him how Oats' play differed from the last game we all just played together. Second bolded bit is him sidestepping the question entirely and saying it's not about meta. But he can't tell me WHY s&b's case has valid points, or HOW Oats' play is different this game. This is particularly interesting as most of Corazon's early thrust on yamato *was* meta based. Dichotomy... The bit in red Vivax picked up on as well. It seems to indicate a concern for how he appears, for how he is viewed by others. Who cares if something is a 'glaring scumtell' if it's what you think and want to do? Do you refuse to vote for someone because you're scared of how you're perceived? Not at all. On March 11 2013 12:31 cDgCorazon wrote: Vivax: + Show Spoiler + On March 11 2013 07:07 Vivax wrote: I don't think I said I wanted to hammer you it's just strange that you comment on someone's case as being very good without reacting to it by either voting for the guy in the case or putting it into relation with your own case. I don't understand why you are so afraid of me I just asked you something that made me curious  Why aren't you trying to persuade me about the yamato lynch then? You too Kurumi I only asked you to write in a way that is understandable I don't get why you react like that (also you failed to roleplay didn't I break the Chezinu role or something like that ? )Marv: + Show Spoiler + On March 11 2013 07:08 marvellosity wrote: so, if you're intent on being lynched, why don't you tell us what your role is? hi s&b. we're not lynching Oats today and to be honest I only barely skimmed your case. $10 says that what you said is probably valid, but it doesn't make Oats mafia. By far the most interesting result of the case is that Corazon agrees with it, despite having played with Oats before (more than once I think?). Corazon, why don't you tell me in your own words why you think Oats is mafia, why don't you tell me how Oats' play is different this game than in Hiro's game. thanks bish. Mocsta: + Show Spoiler + On March 11 2013 12:02 Mocsta wrote: Heres your filter dive (1) + Show Spoiler [yamato tunnel] + On March 10 2013 13:36 cDgCorazon wrote: Here's what I do not want to see from anyone in this town(in no particular order): Lurking BS Confusing Posts Being Scum Lying Decrypted Messages Being Scum Disagreeing with me Being Scum. So why do you immediately attack yamato? Surely it must be for something you put in your first list, right? On March 10 2013 13:40 cDgCorazon wrote: Don't post stupid shit about grammar. Who is scum Yamato? Your meta tends to be that everyone should have the scum team down 100% five minutes in the game. Have you found the scumteam yet? You're pursuing yamato for an absolutely stupid reason... Grammar & a stupid meta-hypothesis. its a 25 player game, and about a handful had posted; why the fuck would This is just stupid, meaningless aggression that goes no where. Then, there is your "question" to him: rhetorical at best, and derogatory at worst. Exactly the type of outcome town seeks ... NOT Lets keep chugging along please. You then continue discourse solely with Yamato even though he is politely saying I am not entering a war of words with you; and start talking about Duel mafia (instead of the actual game). You build lots of suspicion on yamato, and then, retreat. why... because maybe its a "personality influencing him" + Show Spoiler + On March 10 2013 14:02 cDgCorazon wrote: The position I'm talking about is when you basically accused me of having no scum reads 3 hours into Duel Mafia and basically told me that I needed to have 100% scum reads 3 hours into the game or I am scum. I know a general feeling of how you play. You're aggressive as town. You don't give a fuck if you die or not, as long as your top scumread dies with you: The fact that you have decided to back way down from posts like this and play more passive is a bit suspicious. However, I'm going to assume the personality of whoever you are is influencing your play right now. I'll take a look later to see what kind of Yamato (or whoever you are) is going to come into town. Then you rescind to a meta argument to support the yam claim.. which is interesting.. because you dont apply a meta read to oats (with SnB case) YET you just played Duel mafia with yamato and oats On March 10 2013 15:36 cDgCorazon wrote: Yamato's already playing way too far away from his town meta for me to be comfortable. More meaningless insults that go no where. On March 10 2013 16:19 cDgCorazon wrote: Yamato if you were playing to anyone's town meta you would not be playing this badly. You're just trying to stir up BS and you are calling people out for stuff that you have not done either (which basically means you called someone out for something). You aren't scumhunting, you're just throwing shit around. There's no need to do that. We find scum and lynch them. The fact that you are murking the water up means that you are not trying to scumhunt, which would make you not town. Why you so scummy? Again, more living in the past of Duel Mafia as reasoning for his Yamato tunneling. On March 10 2013 16:41 cDgCorazon wrote: No, it's the fact that you are not playing as abrasive as your usual town meta is. So Yamato, let me get this straight: You called me out in Duel Mafia for not having scum reads AND You're calling me out now for having a scumread. Please bow down to your King and tell me what I am missing. Absolute stupid vote rational. On March 11 2013 05:59 cDgCorazon wrote: Hmmm...guess who has decided to lurk now that other targets are being hunted? Yamato and Acro... ##Vote: Yamato Gonna start scumhunting? So not only has this tunneling of Yamato been founded upon nothing except living in the past, and grammar. He now votes the guy, because he wasn't around when Corazon thinks he should be around.... ============= (2) + Show Spoiler [SnB] + CorazonWhen in the world did I say I would move to oats "if it fails?" Here: Implicitly On March 11 2013 06:20 cDgCorazon wrote: I think Strongandbig's argument is very good. It's very convincing, but we are still a long time away from the deadline. Other than that, I've just seen a lot of nonsense and posts that I cannot understand. I was the first one to start scum hunting, don't accuse me of not doing that... Also, it's a bit frustrating to try and scumhunt and then have 5 people complain that no one has scumhunted... (1) Says he has been scum hunting? I already proved his reasoning for targeting yamato were stupid and meaningless? (2) Clearly says the SnB case is convincing... why mention the deadline comment? Because it would lose traction. This is implicitly stating he would support it, if it came about later in the cycle. Yet he has the audacity to tell me, he never said anything of the sort? On March 11 2013 06:57 cDgCorazon wrote: I think he makes good points. If you're going to make me repeat what he is saying and then try to hammer me for it, it's not going to happen. I'm not pushing Oats because I am pushing my own read (Yamato). Just because SnB's case is good doesn't give us an excuse to sit around for 24+ hours and do nothing. I've already said why Yamato is scummy and now I'm voting for him. It's pretty simple. And this is where he is setting himself up to move onto Oats whenever Yam loses traction. it reads pretty clear to me. tl;dr Corazon says he been scum hunting.. but the effort has been fruitless and lacking of town conviction. He hasnt obtained any real information from his target; nor prodded yamato for meaningful discourse. He then follows up with a vote, cos they guy might have been asleep or having a drink with mates - i.e. wasn't around for an hour. All meek attempts to scum hunt, and indicative of scum taking the easy road. Then with the SnB case, clearly says he likes it..but its a "townie" thing to push your own case instead so will do that. LOl Doesnt even give reasoning to why the case is good (when others clearly do not agree with it as valid on Oats) Again, setting himself up for an easy switch, if yam loses traction. Again, scummy play. ##Vote: Corazon These posts look very similar...are you sure you aren't piggybacking off of them? Kicking someone when they're down is not a very town thing to do, especially when you just rehash the arguments that knocked them down in the first place. Not looking good for you Moc. Why is agreeing or using other people's arguments a scumtell? On March 11 2013 11:34 cDgCorazon wrote: LOL When in the world did I say I would move to oats "if it fails?" Read my fucking filter and stop putting words in my mouth... Mocsta, your argument is ridiculously stupid and you're wasting everyone's time with this shit. Stuff like this, there's more of it, is irrationally angry, and he keeps attacking Mocsta rather than any of the arguments. I'd really like to know where Corazon stands on yamato after the revelation of how his role mechanics supposedly work. | ||
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On March 11 2013 23:18 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Unvote: Vivax Uuuugghhhhhhh......what are your thoughts on Bugs man? There's 4 people in orange on my spreadsheet currently: bugs, corazon, stutters, prplhz. I'm going to make myself read Crossfire's and bugs' filters in the next couple of hours. | ||
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On March 11 2013 23:19 cDgCorazon wrote: LOL This is all I have to say to you Marv: Don't hammer me for something and then ask me why the same thing you are hammering me for is a scum tell. That's fucking stupid. I said I liked the case. You are looking way too much into that fact and you're just trying to shit up the thread. Where is the evidence I'm trying to shit up the thread? What's up with this ad-hominem? You've still given literally none of your own thoughts on Oats. | ||
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On March 11 2013 23:23 cDgCorazon wrote: I SAID I LIKED THE CASE AND THAT BnS HAD GOOD POINTS. IF I AGREE WITH THAT, PERHAPS I FEEL THE SAME ABOUT OATS. This stupid attack on me with you contradicting yourself = shitting up the thread. Which points are good? Which make Oats scum? How is Oats' play different this game to Hiro's game, or how is it similar to LIX where he was mafia? | ||
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On March 11 2013 23:27 VisceraEyes wrote: I think I'll just piggyback Vivax, Mocsta and Marv on this one. *shrug* On March 11 2013 22:58 VisceraEyes wrote: And to add to that, I'm fully aware that you didn't answer my previous question in the slightest. So please answer this one as completely as you can. Vivax suspicion of Cora is a joke, and Mocsta's was too. I want you to convince me that Cora is scum. it seems like you thought the suspicions on Corazon previously were groundless. What about what I said did you find compelling, or is it Corazon himself that's making you vote him? | ||
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