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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 02:31 GMT
#2072
it's how austin plays, mocsta.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 02:39 GMT
#2078
On March 13 2013 11:38 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 11:34 austinmcc wrote:
On March 13 2013 11:30 Mocsta wrote:
This reads like a big post of nothing.
You just saying here is a list some scum here.

If you're around Day2, i want to see you apply some god-damn pressure.

I will give you credit though: you applying the politican personality full steam...
Read closer. I bet you find more than just a list.

Well im considered verbose, but you make me sound like a one-liner..

lets see
BC = scum
A list of 6 guys, some could be scum cos low contributers
You have read Duel, but commenting on Cora.. when half the arguments are based on contrast with Duel...
Vivax is scum
Marv is 50/50

My stance still applies, I want to see you do some follow ups if around.
Politicians can't just delegate everything...

+ If you want to comment on Cora, then at least do the justice of reading Duel. Otherwise your comments are moot and shitting up the dispute.



this is unhelpful, unproductive, scummy looking mocsta. anyway i'm going to start writing up my post that i should've started a while ago.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 02:59 GMT
#2082
OK this is going to be a bit of a ramble and possibly unstructured. This corresponds to how I feel about the game. I guess it's only night 1 but i'm less certain on so many people than I like.

I'm going to start with the wishy washy (my thoughts that is, not how they've played necessarily) middle.

risk, prplhz, BC, Stutters, slOosh, Mocsta, Ver (ugh), Acrofales, supersoft.

ok quick rundown.

I like risk when he's around, it feels like town risk. But he's not around enough, and that's more mafia risk.

prplhz. super lurky, although a decent case on BC. Some posts feel like town prplhz, but the lurkiness, oh the lurkiness. I'm banking on his weird anger towards me being genuine, but i'm not sure.

BC. Weird roleplaying thing that he's trying to excuse how he's playing. I don't like it. I don't like how he said I outright lied about him, when it clearly wasn't the case, as per what VE and I wrote. I'm pretty clearly town to most people reading the thread properly, BC has a brain, so I should be pretty clearly town to him too. Instead he's baselessly attacking me. Not good. But I don't think he should be a focus tomorrow.

Stutters - super lurky and bad, called out, did some stuff, disappeared. Don't know what to make of him. his contributions seemed ok when he stopped RPing. bleh.

slOosh. absent. bad. maybe his push on yamato is genuine. maybe his role thing up there is genuine. wait and see. could well be mafia, but could still be town.

Mocsta. Snipey and unhelpful, but isn't shitting up the thread. don't know where i stand with him.

Ver. Really absent. Maybe he should be in somewhat scummy. I just don't know. confuses the fuck out of me.

Acrofales. wasn't sure what he has been trying to achieve so far this game. but reads post that he just made looks decent at first glance. i expect him to be stepping it up and helping day 2 if he's town.

supersoft, not getting mafia vibes. but really, really unproductive, which is unlike supersoft. bleh.

[u]People I'm town on to varying degrees

Hiro. Too lurky I guess, but his posts feel genuine when he makes them. I'm not sure, but I'm kinda leaning town here. I don't see why he should be a focus tomorrow at all.

VE. Has backed me up, whether on purpose or not, on several occasions. So he's seeing the game the way i am. I hope to god he's town. I think he's town, no reason at all not to at this stage.

Dandel. His play really does feel nothing like British II that he just came out of as mafia. He's more helpful and productive, even if still trolly, but he'll always be that way. I liked his catch on Acro's sheeping at the end of day 1, which may or may not mean anything.

austin. seems to be thinking about the game and caring about the game, engaging people in conversation. I have no real reason to think austin is mafia at this point.

Oatsmaster. Suspicious of a lot of people, that's how he plays town. He is always all over the place, he asks stupid questions, and apparently contradicts himself quite a bit. this doesn't make him mafia. Oats plays SCARED as mafia. Posts like these are not scared:

On March 13 2013 02:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Going to sleep, Ill be up at deadline to see what else you monkeys post.


strongandbig - I think he's probably town. I know recently he's had a massive motivation problem with mafia in general, and I think if he rolled mafia this game he'd just have completely given up. Lurkier than I like but is actually providing some contributions and points when he's around.

iamp - posting less than I like, but some posts give me a warm and fuzzy vibe. don't see a reason to look at him right now. especially as he made me a giggle. good towntell ;D

Promethelax - despite posting in limericks, seems to have a clear plan and idea to his play. he was all over the shop as mafia in LX, his limerick posts actually make more sense than his awful posts here. MAYBE he's hiding behind it? but i don't think so right now.

yamato - his posting today makes me feel better about him. i still think he's town, i'm not certain, but I don't want to lynch him right now either.

More interesting things
[b]Vivax!

Not actually certain Vivax is mafia at all. Here's the thing about Vivax. He's absolutely batshit insane. This is usually a pretty solid town tell for Vivax. However there are a few specific things that make me worry about using this broadbrush read.

1) a really weird slight town read on Crossfire
2) calling Foolishness town and attacking me, despite having not read either filter and missing TWO things in Foolishness' under one page filter
3) asking me to ragequit like in LVIII. He knows I was town there, and he also probably knows that I only genuinely really rage when I'm town. I don't like this at all.

So Vivax, I don't know.

Crossfire

Nothing in his filter says town. At all. The reason we didn't lynch him is because he conveninently showed up as the votes were piling on him, and was like "oh lol is it deadline lol daylights saving time" and it seemed kinda genuine. What the fuck has he done with this reprieve? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Looks like mafia.

Corazon

I think he's mafia. I'm running out of time so I can't quote posts, but his push on yamato feels really forced. If I'm dead, go read back through his filter. Look at how he talks about his push on yamato. It continuously reads that he's going to keep pushing yamato until he doesn't have to anymore. He refuses to do anything else, but he basically says "yeah I'm just going to tunnel yamato". He's not active or engaged with anything else. When yamato was in the thread earlier talking with austin, corazon came back to the thread to tunnel yamato some more, and disappeared, deciding not to take the time to make conversation with his main scumread. Looks like mafia.

Foolishness

Apparently he's short of time because he's doing jack shit. He got caught in a lie by saying that he always finds me scummy, even though that's impossible, everything he said about that, our games together, my smurf game, has been disproved. He's kinda around but not doing anything. I'm quoting this post for length

On March 11 2013 13:14 Foolishness wrote:
And it is so on this brightest of white days that I stroll into Personality Town. I clutch the assignment paper in my pocket as I walk into the main parts of the town. The paper that was handed to me not moments ago from the gate guard Greymist. Though I had arrived late to the town, I had already knew exactly where I was proceeding to; a destination known, but not known for I had only just arrived and getting my bearings down would take some effort.

But on the right side of the street I came across a wonderful grove; full of vibrant trees that radiated through the yard. I stopped for a moment to take in the scene. I was not the only one so moved by the scenery, as many people buzzed through their way through the many trees. Not a minute had passed before a fine gentleman approached the grove as well. Though I gave him no inclination to, he stood beside me and struck up conversation.

"They are cherry pickers you see," he said, pointing at the people wandering in and out of the grove.
"Cherry pickers?" I asked.
"Yes," BloodyC0bbler replied. "But they only pick cherries. Ask them to pick from the apple trees, and you will be met with resistance."
"That must make it difficult to accomplish anything."
"Aye. You best be moving on. If you stare too long you too will succumb to the ripe taste of the cherry. And then we will have lost another soul."
"But what about you?" I questioned him.
"I am the shepherd of these people. It is my job to lead them down the path of the scumhunt; to steer them away from the cherry trees. They are my responsibility."

Without another word I departed the poor man and made my way down the street. And I wondered about the shepherd as I walked. Surely his cause is noble, but is that all there is too it? For a few minutes I pondered this question as I walked, until I came across a man sitting on a bench.

"Excuse me," I asked the man, "could you tell me where I can find the house of Vivax?"
"Ahhh, the house of Vivax you say? Well I could not know where anything is in this town. You see I am blind, and I have not interest where anything is in this town during my stay," Ver replied.
"Blind?!?!" I was shocked at this finding. "But how can you possibly hope to accomplish anything?"
"Oh ho ho sir! You only think to see with your eyes. But you have other senses with which you can see. You must learn to use all your senses in this town, not just what you see with your eyes. And then you will see! You will see that there is much to learn from your other sense. Why I have learned so much in this short time without my eyes. Sometimes, your eyes bias your mind, and you see things that are not really there. You only see them because your mind wants to. I do not have such issues. And thus, what I see is truly......pure."

Truly pure. I was at a loss for words from his short speech. What could I say to that? I gave a quick goodbye and went on my way, pondering his vision about seeing; seeing what is right in front of you, seeing without your eyes. Was I seeing things that weren't really there? Was I just seeing them because my mind wanted to see them? I ducked into a coffee shop and parked myself at a table.

I looked back through notes of the case. Except this time, I did not read with my eyes, but I read with my mind. And I saw something different this time. I saw what couldn't be seen with my eyes. I saw exactly what I needed to see. It was beyond what I saw the first time, the first time with my eyes. I saw a depth that was previously not there. I saw all the motivation (or lack of it), all of the ineptitude, all through a hidden agenda. It was...pure.

With the knowledge of my mind lingering in my head, I packed up my things and continued on my way; destination in hand, more determined than ever.

##Vote: Vivax


He had the time to make a post like this, but not do anything more than skim the thread for a read he'd later recant? Why not spend that fucking time writing the post doing something useful? This fucking REEKS of mafia making some kinda post to make it look like they're doing something. But he wasn't.

I've run out of time. This will have to do.


[/b]
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 02:59 GMT
#2085
the only thing that makes Foolish look a little less bad is that Ver looks bad as well. that isn't much to go on.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 03:06 GMT
#2086
as the daypost isn't posted yet, the reason I think Foolish is much more likely to flip mafia than Ver right now is that Foolish keeps coming back to the thread to not contribute. That seems worse than just beinb absent.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 03:43 GMT
#2092
well, if we had medics they failed pretty hard :p

for what it's worth, I received opposite alignments back for Foolish and Ver.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 03:51 GMT
#2096
On March 13 2013 12:49 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 12:43 marvellosity wrote:
well, if we had medics they failed pretty hard :p

for what it's worth, I received opposite alignments back for Foolish and Ver.

Do you believe the check?


No idea at all. Luckily it has no bearing on the fact that Foolishness needs to hang.

##Vote: Foolishness
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 03:55 GMT
#2101
On March 13 2013 12:54 cDgCorazon wrote:
##Vote: Yamato

Let's kill this mofo.


lol. wow.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 03:57 GMT
#2103
it's cora or the fool today. not seeing anything else to persuade me otherwise.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 04:14 GMT
#2108
On March 13 2013 13:04 cDgCorazon wrote:
You can sit here and mislynch me all you want. My death will only confirm Yamato and Mocsta being scum.



it wouldnt even do that slightly. try harder.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 11:52 GMT
#2176
On March 13 2013 19:48 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 19:08 supersoft wrote:
On March 13 2013 18:45 supersoft wrote:
On March 13 2013 18:38 Foolishness wrote:
##NUKE: Yamato77

LET THE FUN BEGIN

+ Show Spoiler +
Though I actually have no idea who to vote for after that


nice, I just wanted to ask for a davigshot on someone. I need more action and Information.
I need red-blood to reinforce my reads!



wait a second. Marv claims to have a check that you and Ver are opposite aligned... Why didn't you shoot Ver? Seriously that doesn't make much sense...

1) I don't believe anything Marv says cause I'm 95% sure he's mafia.
1a) ^^if I'm wrong then Ver will die sooner or later anyways.

2) yamato77 safer and for sure kill while Ver isn't so.


My vote isn't moving. You're absolutely terrible if you think I'm mafia.

For activity alone, no mafia in TL history comes CLOSE to matching my activity, because it's impossible to do.

Foolish needs to die
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 11:54 GMT
#2177
On March 13 2013 19:11 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 19:08 supersoft wrote:
On March 13 2013 18:45 supersoft wrote:
On March 13 2013 18:38 Foolishness wrote:
##NUKE: Yamato77

LET THE FUN BEGIN

+ Show Spoiler +
Though I actually have no idea who to vote for after that


nice, I just wanted to ask for a davigshot on someone. I need more action and Information.
I need red-blood to reinforce my reads!



wait a second. Marv claims to have a check that you and Ver are opposite aligned... Why didn't you shoot Ver? Seriously that doesn't make much sense...


Do you know if marv returns two checks in the same night or in following? Cause I don't and he wouldn't have answered if I asked him at night.

Anyway it's more likely Ver is mafia than Foolishness. Actually Ver is a neat vig shot, I'm just waiting for...

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 13 2013 10:56 slOosh wrote:
Wat deadline is in 1hr? psh don't want to wait that long, and scum can't stop me if I post early anyhow

Rereading for the past 3 or 4 hours ... and yea maybe I got my tunnel on too hard ... probably because I researched too much into personality mafia 1 and subscribe under the Ace / L school of thought. Still don't like yamato but it's probably destructive for me to continue play like this.

[image loading] + [image loading]


Anyhoo, I'm gonna remedy this as best I can tonight cuz I'm the Warlock Techies, and I'ma blowing up (lolol) all the baddies with me. Of course the hosts don't know anything about balance (lolol) so it's not so simple as ##suicide: baddies, but I hope to take a couple down with me. Hopefully they turn out scummers, but in worst case I take out mislynches and lurkers. I need to regen some mana but everything should pan out by midcycle (24 hours) into day 2 - if not you can feel free to try to lynch my charred remains :D

And of course+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]



SlOosh seems to be up to something that will kill him, we will know during first half. I wonder if he targeted yamato together with Foolish :|

Anyway he seems to have targeted lurkers and controversial people. So I suppose people like Ver, Corazon, Crossfire, prplhz.

Maybe Dandel yamato but they aren't as lurky or mislynchable.

Marv when you get in here tell us about your checks.


I honestly don't get how time and time again you fail to read the thread. It's just so amazing. I said it right after the daypost.

HOW CAN YOU MISS IT?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 11:55 GMT
#2178
On March 13 2013 19:51 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 19:48 Foolishness wrote:
On March 13 2013 19:08 supersoft wrote:
On March 13 2013 18:45 supersoft wrote:
On March 13 2013 18:38 Foolishness wrote:
##NUKE: Yamato77

LET THE FUN BEGIN

+ Show Spoiler +
Though I actually have no idea who to vote for after that


nice, I just wanted to ask for a davigshot on someone. I need more action and Information.
I need red-blood to reinforce my reads!



wait a second. Marv claims to have a check that you and Ver are opposite aligned... Why didn't you shoot Ver? Seriously that doesn't make much sense...

1) I don't believe anything Marv says cause I'm 95% sure he's mafia.
1a) ^^if I'm wrong then Ver will die sooner or later anyways.

2) yamato77 safer and for sure kill while Ver isn't so.


I kind of agree... If marv is scum, that move should kill you and Ver and him at the end, that's a 2 to 1 trade and it's killing discussion for 3 days, it's 2 guaranteed mislynches. Kind of makes sense from a scum-perspective. Marv is definetely capable of doing that.
60/40 he's still town though - from my point of view.


you're also pretty bad, super, if you're only 60/40 on me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 12:18 GMT
#2182
On March 13 2013 21:04 Dandel Ion wrote:
Dunno why I'm on the scum side of all those shitty lists but if you're too bad to read me I got good news: You don't have to.

I hope you are aware of that.

marv still town.
fool still scum, only he's taking a townie with him now.

For the love of god, why did nobody shoot cross...
Or he's scum supervet of unkillable again, I guess in that case you don't need to bother playing this game, huh.


don't worry Dandel, I got this.

super is right in that a yamato death would clear some things up. It might buy Foolishness another day or two, helps with corazon and sloosh, etc.

if yamato flips town or no-shot happens, foolish should die immediately.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 12:23 GMT
#2186
On March 13 2013 21:21 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 21:18 marvellosity wrote:
On March 13 2013 21:04 Dandel Ion wrote:
Dunno why I'm on the scum side of all those shitty lists but if you're too bad to read me I got good news: You don't have to.

I hope you are aware of that.

marv still town.
fool still scum, only he's taking a townie with him now.

For the love of god, why did nobody shoot cross...
Or he's scum supervet of unkillable again, I guess in that case you don't need to bother playing this game, huh.


don't worry Dandel, I got this.

super is right in that a yamato death would clear some things up. It might buy Foolishness another day or two, helps with corazon and sloosh, etc.

if yamato flips town or no-shot happens, foolish should die immediately.

So from what I gathered nuke happens at the end of day?
my answer is "meh".

Anyways sloosh I think (or austin i always mix them up) is shooting a bunch of people halfway through the day, so until then, not really too much to do other than stressing what scummers fool/cross are.


where did it say end of the day? did i miss something?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 12:53 GMT
#2191
On March 13 2013 21:38 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 19:36 supersoft wrote:
balancediscussion in the meantime:

These players: X Scummers among them
1. Vivax
23. Promethelax
19. iamperfection
5. HiroPro
10. austinmcc
13. Oatsmaster
14. Stutters695
15. strongandbig
18. Mocsta
21. Acrofales
22. cDgCorazon
9. Intact replaced by Dandel Ion
2. Crossfire99
___________________________________________


Other players: Y Scummers among them
7. marvellosity
4. risk.nuke
6. prplhz
16. slOosh

20. Ver
- opposite aligned -
17. Foolishness
- shot -
24. yamato77


X + Y = 5

X = ?
Y = ?

tell me bros


I don't understand the dividing line for "balance" purposes. Is that veterans vs. scrubs?

As for a list from scum -> town, I just made a list last night. Nothing has changed.


given you had Foolish somewhere around null and he just shot one of your "strongest townreads", nothing changes?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 12:55 GMT
#2192
On March 13 2013 13:59 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 11:59 marvellosity wrote:
the only thing that makes Foolish look a little less bad is that Ver looks bad as well. that isn't much to go on.

Could you expand on this please? Are you making loose relations around vet balance?


missed this. yes.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 13:00 GMT
#2193
By the way. This is Foolishness' lynched-as-town statistic:

On December 25 2012 14:00 kitaman27 wrote:

Town Lynched Percentage (Minimum 10 games)
kitaman27 0/25 = 0.00%
Fishball 0/18 = 0.00%
Foolishness 0/18 = 0.00%
Keirathi 0/13 = 0.00%
Node 0/13 = 0.00%
supersoft 0/13 = 0.00%
chaos13 0/11 = 0.00%
barundar 0/10 = 0.00%
iamperfection 0/10 = 0.00%
DoctorHelvetica 0/10 = 0.00%
Eiii 0/10 = 0.00%
GMarshal 0/10 = 0.00%
Mementoss 0/10 = 0.00%



Does Foolishness look like a guy this game who's never been lynched in 18 games as town?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 13:10 GMT
#2195
On March 13 2013 22:07 iamperfection wrote:
no it does not

Also he says your 95% likely to be scum but is not trying to convince us or pushing your lynch at all. He once again dosnt care about this lynch and that is scummy.


Aye. And given Foolishness is such a fan of meta, it's also pretty clear which alignment I'm playing more like. It's fucking pathetic.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 13 2013 13:19 GMT
#2199
On March 13 2013 22:11 supersoft wrote:
So you want to lynch Foolish regardless of yamatos alignment?


I don't know yamato's alignment.

All I know is these things

1) I think yamato is town
2) I am town
3) Foolishness is playing like a scrubby mafia ass.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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