EPTAssume there's a roleblocker: was it possible to roleblock Dandel Ion's power on N2?
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Assume there's a roleblocker: was it possible to roleblock Dandel Ion's power on N2? | ||
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Yeah. You see, I don't trust you and am personally more sure on Xfire. I'll vote DP if it is impossible to get Xfire lynched, but I read both their filters a lot this morning and DP has some redeeming qualities, while Xfire doesn't. The first is that he replaced in. That potentially means that Ver was REALLY just goofing off with his post and didn't give a shit about the game, so that should just be disregarded. Ver clearly didn't bother to take this game seriously, so it IS possible he tried to just not read his role PM. Then DP had to replace into the game around page 150. I was basically AFK for D1 and catching up on HALF that was hard, so not having a full understanding of things in the thread I can see how some of the miscommunications happened. DP is scum for not making sense about how he justified calling Foolish scum. That's the main thing I see against him. Xfire is scum for: On March 17 2013 23:25 Acrofales wrote: Good morning. I have not read the last two pages, but I just looked at the voting thread: Marv: 5 votes Vivax: 3 votes Xfire: 1 vote DP: 1 vote This is ridiculous. Marv is NOT the best lynch today and Vivax is probably town based on him being aggressive and nasty, instead of calm and cooperative. DP and Xfire are scum. I have made the case for Xfire and still stand by it. Just open his filter and look what he has done: First posts are all fluff. The only non-fluff in the first page of his filter is: This is just gratuitious suspicion. Yes, Ver was incredibly suspect for that post, but the REASONS Xfire gives for it are stupid. He clearly believes Ver: there is a 20% chance Ver is playing against his wincon with this and that is somehow SUSPECT? No. There is nothing suspicious about ACTUALLY not reading your role pm. It is suspicious to CLAIM you haven't read your role pm, because the two reasons are: you haven't actually read your role pm, or you're scum preparing an excuse (cop-out) for whatever behaviour comes later. Xfire did not think this through. Now townies don't think this through either, but the reasoning is so weak, it just looks like he is buddying up to Yamato (who had his vote on Xfire at the time) without having an original thought about Ver's claim. This, btw is independent of Ver's alignment: Xfire NEVER follows up on this suspicion. Apologizing for doing nothing, then doing more of nothing: Activity ahead, I promise. Eh, nvm. Activity too hard. Just kill me instead. You found me out. Hilariously, he got the vote deadline wrong and then realizes there's still some time and that somehow his lack of activity got people to switch votes. And then we get: This I actually thought was an interesting point at the time. If Vivax were scum and Xfire town, this would work. However, it works EQUALLY well if Xfire is scum. Think about it: Vivax is a townie and for some arcane reason actually have a truthful town read on Xfire at this point. However, if Xfire is scum and knows he's played like shit, it is soo easy to just say: that random townie who has a town-vote on me is acting with prior information, because no way an actual townie could have a town read on me. Beautiful way of setting someone up. Regardless. He escaped the lynch. You'd now expect more contribution from Xfire, right? Wrong. At the time, I thought this was a rather townie post: However, Vivax was given a nuke too, so him jumping to the conclusion that the other nukes were gifts too is not really that much of a stretch. Which makes this null: it is just more free suspicion on his chosen scumspect. Also, now that we know Foolishness was town, it's clear that Vivax did not have this information from his scumQT (well, unless sloosh is scum, but then I would think he would have alerted his scumteam to not be stupid about this). The rest of Xfire's filter has chat about the nukes, which is neither here nor there... and a defense of Foolishness' case on him, which is also neither here nor there. He then apologizes again for being absent. I am sorry you're sick, Xfire: I believe you on that, and that that is a factor in your sparse posts. Nevertheless, scum get sick too, and the (very) few content posts Xfire has made are easy reads to fly under the radar. No longer. Xfire is scum. Kill him. | ||
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On March 18 2013 08:21 Vivax wrote: See how there were only townies (almost) on the crossfire wagon? But then marv started a counter bandwagon on me and jumped off the crossfire one. He's likely the only scum on that bandwagon at the moment, unless Ver is scum, too. But I currently have to assume he isn't. Remember the marv scumread on Crossfire end of N2, in his big read post? And how I called him out for it when Foolish was unlynchable? And how both Foolish and marv agreed that Crossfire was scum? But marv still didn't want to lynch crossfire cause it would have proven Foolish's innocence, and actually I'm quite sure crossfire is scum now. If marv lynched crossfire and he would have flipped town, he would still have had an argument against Foolish, but since crossfire would have flipped red, the Foolish lynch would have been impossible to achieve from then on. So yeah, out of the list of people I were unsure of in my scumread post I'd pick crossfire now as remaining scum. Nuke please lynch marv :| Okay. This post actually makes sense. And I am still unsure which of you and Hiro is the scum. Not nearly as sure as I am of Xfire being scum, anyway. So. We agree that Xfire is scum. Lets lynch him? Then if Marv survives the night, we lynch him tomorrow, when the policy lynch actually makes sense (now watch scum not shoot him because I said that). | ||
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Xfire one of Hiro/Vivax one of DP/risk.nuke two of sloosh, mocsta, yamato, marv And still probably not Marv. So ##unvote ##vote Crossfire88 | ||
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On March 18 2013 08:31 Vivax wrote: Don't talk to me Acro, as scum you're just thin air. Talk to others. Lol. Is there anybody in this game you haven't called scum yet? | ||
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On March 18 2013 08:36 slOosh wrote: Acro, if marv is town, how did your supposed scum team destroy a playerlist stacked with vets by lurking? Only me and Vivax have been active this game, so between the two of us we fooled everyone and put us in LYLO at D3? The marv problem isn't going to go away for the exact reason you stated - he can just WIFOM and say "oh scum wanted to do this", and it will get progressively more difficult to land the correct lynch as days go on, because a single misplaced vote can => last minute voteswing victory. Please reconsider. Or town fooled themselves? I've seen plenty of towns implode. As for the latter argument you make: that goes for anybody, not just Marv. I just don't think Marv is scum, so I think that lynching him now will lose us the game. Lynching him tomorrow makes more sense, because at some point scum have to kill him, because he IS capable of figuring out the game and scum cannot know when it will suddenly click and make it happen. Yes, they can leave him alive for wifom reasons and pray we lynch him, but if we don't, and he figures out the game, they are screwed. And that's why scum will want to shoot him if he's town. So the longer Marv is alive, the more likely it is that he is scum. I thought my tipping point was the D3 policy lynch. I won't make the mistake of mentioning that again. This game, D3 is a bad time to lynch Marv. | ||
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On March 18 2013 10:28 marvellosity wrote: Acrofales, get your ass in here pronto <3 I'm here and will be here til the lynch. Is there an updated vote count? If I see it right, Marv is still the vote leader. That's retarded. If you're town, get your vote off Marv! Stop being fucking stupid. Now. Can we lynch Xfire today? If not, I'll look at Vivax and DP again and see which one I want dead most. It's probably either at this point. | ||
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Of course, if Vivax is scum, then they wouldn't have to do that, but then IF there's a framer, he didn't frame Vivax. | ||
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I am having trouble focusing on individual letters. It's super weird :S | ||
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On March 18 2013 10:58 marvellosity wrote: don't give a shit. you're nto voting for vivax. Yeah. I'm going to the doctor. ##unvote ##vote Vivax | ||
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So I just took a break from the computer and then went to bed. I'll go to an optician, but for the moment it all seems well Anyway, I think this means we lost? Only power roles can stop us from losing? If not, then HiroPro clearly scum. Anybody buying his framer bullshit is stupid. A 1-word description of that role? Makes no sense. Lynch HiroPro. His buddies are DarthPunk and Crossfire99. Final two are somewhere in risk.nuke, sloosh, yamato and marvellosity. I particularly don't like risk.nuke's play today. Yesterday I had him as an either/or with DP, but I reconsider. His push onto DP was not forceful at all... and now, with his 0 thread presence he comes in and yells how stupid town is for lynching Vivax. Where was he when this was all going on? My guess: giggling at town's stupidity in the scumQT. | ||
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On March 19 2013 01:00 HiroPro wrote: right now this is the way i see it. everyone who didnt want to lynch between me or vivax or who still talked about other stuff must be town. Nice try, scum. Anyway, I don't really feel like doing much this night: if we get another lynch tomorrow, we can think things through, but as it is, we lynch the lying DT and then take it from there. | ||
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GG team! | ||
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On March 19 2013 12:46 Dandel Ion wrote: What's the point of making a sleeper cell if you can just add your scumbuddies to it '-.- It's just free KP like that. I'm most surprised they put stutters in at all, just go with 3 of 'em olol. Also all of town played like shit. And I mean it when I say all. A lot of y'all need to pull their heads out of their asses and realize how bad you really are. Trust me, it's refreshing. Nah. Scum votes didn't count. So we put a townie in who seemed easily manipulable. Sorry Stutters. | ||
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On March 19 2013 12:52 gonzaw wrote: To be honest.....it's not farfetched to think Vivax as town MVP this game.... ...in comparison to other townies >_> <_< Meh. Can Vivax be both town MVP AND scum MVP in the same game? | ||
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GreYPerson was signed in when posted 03-15-2013 06:20 PM ET (US) Its possible, Im starting to wonder if I did that myself. Edited 03-15-2013 06:20 PM 138 Kita 03-15-2013 05:57 PM ET (US) I'm starting to think that greymist is messing with me and created a second mafia faction when he sent out role pms. | ||
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