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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 11 2013 00:03 GMT
#917
Because Krafla was RB'd assuming he was telling the truth, will he be able to use his night action N2 as it was never activated?
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 11 2013 02:14 GMT
#945
On March 11 2013 10:24 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 10:18 nobodywonder wrote:
^ Darn lurkers, they have to post at some time though. Yet we dont have replacements.

On March 10 2013 09:47 MeatlessTaco wrote:
On March 10 2013 09:45 geript wrote:
Here's the option I like the most:
## vote omnieulogy
You're interested in finding out Luneth's alignment and doesn't change a thing. I'll explain more in detail late tonight but here's a summary:
Soft defenses of Artic
Nothing but mudslinging
Further suspicions without trying to actually pressure
Overall no interest in pressuring players
Interest in wasting time discussing worthless matters
Presenting 2 bad cases without follow up


If OE is scum, he deserves to live a couple more days.


This quote still really bothers me. Strange defense of OE. May be important when we get a mislynch or good lynch.

I've actually been playing the idea in my head of them both making eh cases against each other and just try and do a double bus that they hope builds really good credability.

Theres one thing that bugs me about Taco is if he was innocent, the mafia would have had plenty of time to jump on his bussing and make sureh e died instead of arctic or NW sense his bus was running out anyways.


correct me if I'm wrong but Taco hasn't come out and claimed I am scum has he?

Also, basically the consensus is that I've bussed every single scum suspect in the game at this point, and made a case against one when I could have just lynched Arctic... AND have set up to lynch another of my scum buddies? You guys are conspiracy theorists. It's expected to an extent in mafia but holy shit lol If I were scum this game I woulda placed a vote on NW and then pretend to be AFK while Arctic was being lynched. No reason for me to put myself out there this much as scum when myself AND Taco were not under any kind of pressure at all. But everybody agrees he's scummy and I just randomly decided to bus him half way through D1 for no reason?

This is what has been bothering me all game long. You people agree with my reads and continue to assume I'm mafia.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 11 2013 02:33 GMT
#948
On March 11 2013 11:20 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 11:14 OmniEulogy wrote:
On March 11 2013 10:24 TheRavensName wrote:
On March 11 2013 10:18 nobodywonder wrote:
^ Darn lurkers, they have to post at some time though. Yet we dont have replacements.

On March 10 2013 09:47 MeatlessTaco wrote:
On March 10 2013 09:45 geript wrote:
Here's the option I like the most:
## vote omnieulogy
You're interested in finding out Luneth's alignment and doesn't change a thing. I'll explain more in detail late tonight but here's a summary:
Soft defenses of Artic
Nothing but mudslinging
Further suspicions without trying to actually pressure
Overall no interest in pressuring players
Interest in wasting time discussing worthless matters
Presenting 2 bad cases without follow up


If OE is scum, he deserves to live a couple more days.


This quote still really bothers me. Strange defense of OE. May be important when we get a mislynch or good lynch.

I've actually been playing the idea in my head of them both making eh cases against each other and just try and do a double bus that they hope builds really good credability.

Theres one thing that bugs me about Taco is if he was innocent, the mafia would have had plenty of time to jump on his bussing and make sureh e died instead of arctic or NW sense his bus was running out anyways.


correct me if I'm wrong but Taco hasn't come out and claimed I am scum has he?

Also, basically the consensus is that I've bussed every single scum suspect in the game at this point, and made a case against one when I could have just lynched Arctic... AND have set up to lynch another of my scum buddies? You guys are conspiracy theorists. It's expected to an extent in mafia but holy shit lol If I were scum this game I woulda placed a vote on NW and then pretend to be AFK while Arctic was being lynched. No reason for me to put myself out there this much as scum when myself AND Taco were not under any kind of pressure at all. But everybody agrees he's scummy and I just randomly decided to bus him half way through D1 for no reason?

This is what has been bothering me all game long. You people agree with my reads and continue to assume I'm mafia.

I wouldn't call Arctic your read, not by a long shot. If I recall you said he was just as scummy as every other lurker so stop. And I've already said your bellow taco and luneth and were much more grey then red to me. Please relax.


what? You realize the whole post wasn't directed solely at you right? lol Also Arctic was one of my scum reads. I wouldn't vote for somebody I didn't think was scum. Get your head out of your ass.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 11 2013 02:44 GMT
#950
On March 11 2013 11:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lol really don't understand why you're getting so worked up for no reason right now OE.
There's literally nothing for us to do until Taco/Luneth(/Matriarch?) come back and no one is accusing you of anything right now.

If nothing happens for another whole bunch of hours we have to make up our minds as to which of the two we want dead. Will everyone (who's been active anyway) be back before lynch tomorrow?


I'm not worked up, I just want him to realize that in a single sentence he said "you said arctic was scummy, you never said you had a scum read on him" how contradictory that statement is needs to be pointed out to him otherwise he doesn't learn.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 11 2013 03:13 GMT
#953
On March 11 2013 12:04 geript wrote:
OE why do you feel the need to tell us that Arctic was one of your scum reads?


I am becoming convinced that you can't understand most of the things you read.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 11 2013 03:49 GMT
#956
On March 11 2013 12:36 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 11:33 OmniEulogy wrote:
what? You realize the whole post wasn't directed solely at you right? lol Also Arctic was one of my scum reads. I wouldn't vote for somebody I didn't think was scum. Get your head out of your ass.

Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 12:04 geript wrote:
OE why do you feel the need to tell us that Arctic was one of your scum reads?

Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 12:13 OmniEulogy wrote:
I am becoming convinced that you can't understand most of the things you read.

Also, if he was one of your "scum reads" which for whatever god forsaken reason you equate to "I called them scummy" then why did you make this post:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 07:27 OmniEulogy wrote:
I really want to avoid trying to make a link between Arctic and Taco till after the flip. And if Arctic flips town I'm going to be kicking myself for not being able to persuade people to vote Taco, however I don't want to see NW lynched...

I don't disagree that Arctic looks scummy, I just think Taco looks worse.

That doesn't tell me that you think Arctic looks scummy. You even refuse to call him scummy; rather you wouldn't argue against that he looks scummy. You're actively thinking about Arctic as town and trying to say that he's a scum read and that he was one of your scum reads. Congratulations, we'll be lynching you tomorrow.


.... you are so dumb it hurts to read this.

"I'm not disagreeing with anybody who says Arctic looks scummy as hell."

"WoS I think we agree with each other on who is scummy it's just unfortunate we couldn't agree on who to lynch first."

"Arctic Daishi - Playing the noob card after lurking for 36~ hours, NOT a smart move. I want to see some serious contribution from you starting D2 and if I don't I will be pushing for your lynch. Hell if Frogron can save his ass before the end of D1 from me I'll go after you in the next 7 hours."

yeah I definitely never say Arctic looks scummy at all. Also are you ACTUALLY saying you would create association cases ON DAY ONE?! And you claim NOT wanting to do that is scummy?! holy shit.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 14 2013 18:55 GMT
#1263
Hey guys sorry for the absence, my house got fumigated and it took a few days for the fumes to clear out to a non-poisonous level. I've explained it to Acro so if I'm mod-killed it's pretty understandable as I believe I've missed a full night cycle and 24 hours of D2/D3's cycles. I won't even touch on the game till Acro lets me know what his decision is but I figure I owe an explanation.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 14 2013 19:11 GMT
#1269
Alright, Acros given me the green light so, I'll be doing a bit of reading.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 14 2013 19:31 GMT
#1276
On March 15 2013 04:26 TheRavensName wrote:
Well, I'm glad to see OE finally realized his icon didn't actually make his TL account a dark templar...


LOL <3 I'm on page 58 atm and I have to stop and say a few things before I continue reading,

First NW nice shot I deserved that one after Taco's flip lol I still would have pushed him if I was here for the rest of the day most likely, bad play on my part sorry town.

but @Raven

On March 13 2013 20:49 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 15:25 bduddy wrote:
On March 13 2013 15:18 Krafla wrote:
Morning guys, just woken up and about to head to work, but just to let you know I was role blocked again tonight.
Really? So the mafia blocked you without even knowing if you still had a shot or not? I'm not buying it. Who did you target and why? Did you breadcrumb, and why did you not night-post like last night?

Considering that we supposedly are supposed to know all the possible roles, is it really necessary that you hide important mechanics about how they work?


I also can't help but feel he kind of manipulated our jail keeper. I was RBed last night, which I'm willing to take as me being saved over WoS.... and Omni basically told WoS that jailkeeper was an idiot for choosing WoS over me, so last night the Jailkeeper followed that logic and WoS got run over.


It wasn't me who said WoS shouldn't be the target for our JK, in fact I believe I said I would have picked WoS as well. Geript said you were the better choice. Just a bit of a mix up but I'd rather people didn't think I told the JK not to keep saving WoS when I never said anything like that

@Rainbows I think I missed Luneth's lie, I'm going to re-read a few times but if you are around could you help me out and tell me what you are talking about when you mentioned it before Taco got lynched.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 14 2013 21:05 GMT
#1284
On March 15 2013 05:51 bduddy wrote:
OK, I think I've made it pretty clear that I'm suspicious of OE. Some quick glances show that OE has attacked ML several times (without voting, but I guess that's understandable if he's actually been away), while ML has on a couple of occasions defended OE. It seems highly unlike that OE would be bussing ML; many of his accusing posts came during the Taco bandwagon, where they would be utterly pointless. If ML is actually scum, then, this would seem to be a contribution; why would scum defend another player unless they were scum, but if OE was scum, why would he spend so many posts getting on ML? Examples:

Show nested quote +
Now that we know Arctic's alignment it looks more like Luneth was trying to save him without making it look too obvious. If we consider how quickly he leaves after nobody budges from Arctic it looks pretty bad.
(Night 1)

Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 08:06 MLuneth wrote:
I am rereading cases now.
Going to be wishy washy either way, but I'd rather be correct

nothing more about Arctic vs NW after this.


Show nested quote +
I think both Luneth and Taco have shown some pretty large signs that they don't really care who gets lynched. The amount of effort behind where their votes land is between minimal and non-existent.


Show nested quote +
good to see you come back with such a strong case rainbows. I agree with you that Luneth looks like a pretty good choice for mafia, leaving us with 1(?) remaining. I still believe the last one is Taco. If there is a 4th I'd be surprised as I've only had 3 scum in all of my newbie games.


Is this a weak bus, leaving room for OE to claim "But I was on ML the whole time!" if he goes down? Maybe. I doubt it, though - why do it so early before MLuneth was under real suspicion? On the other hand, MLuneth's defenses of OE are not hard to find, he even admitted himself that it looked like he was buddying him. So that leaves three possibilities - OE is scum and ML is town, they're both town, or they're both mafia and OE is trying a really weird bus. I'm not willing to believe that they're both town given the combined suspicion I have towards both of them (yes, I know it was Day 1, but OE's defense of AD was just too much for me to ignore), and so both remaining possibilities are that OE is scum. And I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is.

##Unvote
##Vote: OmniEulogy


I was actually going to touch on this after I had finished cleaning a bit more but I'm happy to get it out of the way right now.

IMO either 1 of us are scum or both of are. Luneth's recent attempts to save me (although I love him for it as a person) rub me the wrong way. I believe Luneth is scum and is trying to paint me red for when he flips. Not very hard for him to do if he defends me for the remainder of this day.

The only thing I can say to this is lynch Luneth first. He was my #2 scum read behind Taco, Taco is gone and nobody has taken his place. This makes Luneth my #1 and Geript is my #2 scum read. I believe Luneth will flip scum and it will still put me in a very difficult position but with only 1 scum remaining at that point I wouldn't mind taking one for the team given my recent inactivity and all I would ask in this scenario is that people start looking for the last scum with me under the assumption that when I get lynched D4 I will flip green and the game will continue. Which is exactly what will happen.

I've been looking for ways to find the last scum after Luneth flips and I believe it will be Geript. I will be pushing for his lynch D4 as Chew was extremely scummy and Geript has done very little to change that.

Anyway it's my belief that Luneth is defending me in order to get me lynched D4 by association and try to make people believe that I have been bussing him for quite awhile.

##Vote: Luneth is this the opposite of an OMGUS? I like you Luneth, but I think you are scum
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 14 2013 21:18 GMT
#1286
On March 15 2013 06:08 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 06:05 OmniEulogy wrote:
On March 15 2013 05:51 bduddy wrote:
OK, I think I've made it pretty clear that I'm suspicious of OE. Some quick glances show that OE has attacked ML several times (without voting, but I guess that's understandable if he's actually been away), while ML has on a couple of occasions defended OE. It seems highly unlike that OE would be bussing ML; many of his accusing posts came during the Taco bandwagon, where they would be utterly pointless. If ML is actually scum, then, this would seem to be a contribution; why would scum defend another player unless they were scum, but if OE was scum, why would he spend so many posts getting on ML? Examples:

Now that we know Arctic's alignment it looks more like Luneth was trying to save him without making it look too obvious. If we consider how quickly he leaves after nobody budges from Arctic it looks pretty bad.
(Night 1)

On March 09 2013 08:06 MLuneth wrote:
I am rereading cases now.
Going to be wishy washy either way, but I'd rather be correct

nothing more about Arctic vs NW after this.


I think both Luneth and Taco have shown some pretty large signs that they don't really care who gets lynched. The amount of effort behind where their votes land is between minimal and non-existent.


good to see you come back with such a strong case rainbows. I agree with you that Luneth looks like a pretty good choice for mafia, leaving us with 1(?) remaining. I still believe the last one is Taco. If there is a 4th I'd be surprised as I've only had 3 scum in all of my newbie games.


Is this a weak bus, leaving room for OE to claim "But I was on ML the whole time!" if he goes down? Maybe. I doubt it, though - why do it so early before MLuneth was under real suspicion? On the other hand, MLuneth's defenses of OE are not hard to find, he even admitted himself that it looked like he was buddying him. So that leaves three possibilities - OE is scum and ML is town, they're both town, or they're both mafia and OE is trying a really weird bus. I'm not willing to believe that they're both town given the combined suspicion I have towards both of them (yes, I know it was Day 1, but OE's defense of AD was just too much for me to ignore), and so both remaining possibilities are that OE is scum. And I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is.

##Unvote
##Vote: OmniEulogy


I was actually going to touch on this after I had finished cleaning a bit more but I'm happy to get it out of the way right now.

IMO either 1 of us are scum or both of are. Luneth's recent attempts to save me (although I love him for it as a person) rub me the wrong way. I believe Luneth is scum and is trying to paint me red for when he flips. Not very hard for him to do if he defends me for the remainder of this day.

The only thing I can say to this is lynch Luneth first. He was my #2 scum read behind Taco, Taco is gone and nobody has taken his place. This makes Luneth my #1 and Geript is my #2 scum read. I believe Luneth will flip scum and it will still put me in a very difficult position but with only 1 scum remaining at that point I wouldn't mind taking one for the team given my recent inactivity and all I would ask in this scenario is that people start looking for the last scum with me under the assumption that when I get lynched D4 I will flip green and the game will continue. Which is exactly what will happen.

I've been looking for ways to find the last scum after Luneth flips and I believe it will be Geript. I will be pushing for his lynch D4 as Chew was extremely scummy and Geript has done very little to change that.

Anyway it's my belief that Luneth is defending me in order to get me lynched D4 by association and try to make people believe that I have been bussing him for quite awhile.

##Vote: Luneth is this the opposite of an OMGUS? I like you Luneth, but I think you are scum


Wow, that post was incredibly Martyr-like. Yuckkkkkkkkkk.

Thats like, the saddest defense of anything ever.

"I was gonna touch on this later, but I'm like almost certainly scum. Please don't lynch me just lynch this other guy first". WTF?


At this point it's a numbers game and I'm dead after Luneth unless I can get people on Geript. So yeah its a post for why we should continue to vote Luneth. I don't really care how you view it lol
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 14 2013 21:49 GMT
#1289
accusations like why have I not been here? I answered that. What else would you like to know? Why I voted for Taco and pushed him? Or.... ??? Otherwise what are you talking about.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 14 2013 22:05 GMT
#1292
I still fail to see an argument that doesn't revolve around the fact that I was gone for over 72 hours which I couldn't control.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 14 2013 22:44 GMT
#1298
NW the amount of misunderstandings is almost funny. It's not even your fault it's just the way I worded it and you decided to take it.

Anyway my scum reads are Luneth and Geript as the only two I have any scum read on. Town read is still Raven and if Luneth is scum I'd say Rainbow. Otherwise I'm null on pretty much everybody else.

Numbers game in terms of Votes not Town vs Scum lynch/NK numbers.

And if you think I have time to make a case on anybody from the time I got home, quickly read this thread, and all the shit I have to do to clean up the house after having it fumigated you are dreaming.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 15 2013 01:13 GMT
#1318
Yes! now I'm going to do a 180 on geript and this would be why...

On March 15 2013 06:19 geript wrote:
Damn this is getting to be a hard choice between Luneth and OE. Neither of them have added any actual points or made a case other than shitflinging; I'm willing to wait on OE if he actually produces a good case on anyone and does more than just a "not me" vote. I don't like either OE's last post or one of Luneth's recent ones:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 10:17 MLuneth wrote:
Essentially, if OE is town Geript is very likely maf




This is messing with my head a little bit. Luneth tries to buddy me before his death - He KNEW I was town... so he was trying to get me lynched D3. What I don't understand then is why he would try and say me being town would mean Geript is scum. Was he hoping I'd continue to tunnel Geript? WIFOM bomb, fuck you Luneth gg though

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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 15 2013 01:14 GMT
#1319
EBWOP: Less of a 180 more of just 90 degrees. lol
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 16 2013 00:55 GMT
#1370
VT
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 16 2013 01:31 GMT
#1376
On March 16 2013 10:29 geript wrote:
Whatever, no one died. It doesn't matter if we lynch rainbow today or tomorrow after that stupid claim.
##vote sn0_man


pretty sure it was a joke.

##Vote: Sn0_man
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 16 2013 01:53 GMT
#1379
scum RB can carry out the night kill as well as RBing raven Geript got the right guy. Game is over.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
March 16 2013 02:46 GMT
#1387
I'd like to know what came back to Krafla as well but its like 3-4am in the UK and we would have to wait for another 12~ hours
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