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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 12 2013 23:11 GMT
#1114
Because I walk without rhythm
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 13 2013 00:08 GMT
#1117
Wave, how do you feel about Rainbow?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 13 2013 00:35 GMT
#1120
Well sometimes it's harder to hit a bird in flight than it is a still target. Either way, my fat ass will be cramming cookies down my throat for as long as I can.

Either way, after refining my reads my top 2 targets are Krafla and Rainbow, just in case I die tonight. I think Rainbow's voting pattern is a bit odd. Krafla just isn't making much sense and he was on NW as well N1 and I have a strong town read on NW and had it all game long.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 13 2013 02:48 GMT
#1132
Not going to lie, I'm feeling kinda lost here. Just going back through agian.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 13 2013 02:59 GMT
#1137
On March 13 2013 11:54 TheRavensName wrote:
I'm wondering what this actually means.... WoS was almost certain he was saved by a jailkeeper night one, and Krafia said he was normal role blocked and seemed to me to at least be soft claiming blue and leaving small bread clumbs. This could confirm Krafia as what he said... or it could not I guess, but its something to consider ant it?

To really evaluate that we would have to know how many roleblocks there were last night. I agree that WoS was saved night 1, but if there aren't 2 roleblocks today then we can assume that he was lying. Your thoughts?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 13 2013 03:33 GMT
#1139
Raven, where do you think Rainbows and OE are? I don't see a real reason for two people who have been active at points to go into lurk mode this hard.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 13 2013 03:44 GMT
#1141
So are you buying my previous case on OE?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 13 2013 05:26 GMT
#1144
Well since no one seems interested in talking, then I'm going to:
##vote OmniEulogy
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 13 2013 05:27 GMT
#1145
I've also thought about it and I really think that we need to get those roleblocks announced because if there's only one then we need to consider Krafla more.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 13 2013 14:55 GMT
#1166
What do you find scummy about AmLuneth?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 13 2013 16:52 GMT
#1178
@Sno I think you should take a deeper look at my filter. I've been surprisingly straight forward. I'd suggest you look again.

You seem to share my distrust of Omni.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 13 2013 17:02 GMT
#1186
On March 14 2013 01:57 Frorgon wrote:
I don't see how Rainbows looks suspicious right now Raven. There is no connection between him and Omni. Now if Luneth somehow flips town, as I've said Omni starts to look innocent and then Rainbows would have the same problem as Omni has right now, tunneling votes on innocent people. If Luneth is town then Geript and Rainbows are scum. Otherwise the two scum are Luneth and Omni. You seem to agree about Omni, but I don't think we learn as much if we vote him today, and a mislynch on Omni hurts us a lot more than a mislynch on Luneth.

I don't think that any of this makes sense. How are you drawing these conclusions?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 13 2013 17:15 GMT
#1191
On March 10 2013 12:11 OmniEulogy wrote:
the thing is WoS, he proved himself scummy because he sheeped me and voted Frorgon.

Funny how he doesn't seem to call out Rainbows because of his vote for Frogon. Rainbow's response to the terribad Frogon case:
On March 09 2013 03:46 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 03:37 OmniEulogy wrote:
My Case on Frorgon

On March 07 2013 22:29 Frorgon wrote:
Good morning all.

Glad to see things picking up a bit now.

As far as the discussion on "lurkers", I don't think it can be considered an applicable label for anyone as of yet, I mean there is still a lot of time left in day 1. But I will definitely be keeping my eye out over the next few hours.I also agree that I'd rather find a logical reason to lynch someone on day 1 instead of just randomly choosing someone. I'm not afraid to call people out but it seems quite scummy to just attack someone without any useful contribution behind it.

Also bduddy, you can claim you are lurking for personal reasons, but how are we to know this is true? You were warned before this game started that you should only commit if you had the proper amount of free time. A busy schedule is no excuse, so I do hope you contribute.


I believe now it is applicable to call you a lurker. I'm kind of confused as to why you think it is scummy to attack people to see their reactions and how they react under pressure. I've seen players vote on almost everybody in the game by the end of D1 who weren't scum but were fishing for information, I have yet to see scum play so ballsy.

You claim to not be afraid to call people out on things but when you tried you were almost afraid to commit and were very back and forth about it.

On March 08 2013 06:29 Frorgon wrote:
@OmniEulogy I'm wondering why you asked me about what I thought was suspicious behavior. I clearly explained that in my initial post about the matter. It made me a bit uneasy about whether or not you were trying to get redundant information posted to cloud up the thread. As Wave said, the amount of posts you had started to raise a red flag for me. And don't get me wrong, it's not necessarily the amount of posts you had that was bad, it was that you seemed to be drowning the thread for a while with just your thoughts and limited discussion from others. That being said, I feel better about your contributions in the past few pages since other people have shown up.


"The amount you talk to yourself while nobody is here raises a red flag, everything you've said while more than 1 person has been here has been awesome!" what? This to me seems like scum trying to pretend to contribute while at the same time not trying to make anybody upset. It wouldn't have made me look at it twice if you had been active and contributing but as we all know you've made 4 posts in nearly 48 hours. This is not acceptable for town. This is the behavior of scum.

On March 08 2013 19:15 Frorgon wrote:
Alright I'm back. In my opinion, bduddy is not making a good case for himself. That's 3 different excuses for being inactive right now due to his "busy life". I really don't care about how busy your life is.

Nobodywonder still looking real scummy. Unvotes bduddy after the terrible explanation provided. I'm thinking they could both be scum covering for each other. NW makes a case early on against bduddy without actually being serious about it so there are no reprocussions. Bduddy has his suspicion on people who in my opinion don't same overly scummy as of yet, and is defending NW.

Right now I'm narrowing down my vote between NW and bduddy and I plan to make an actual vote shortly after they respond, if they respond. There should still be a decent amount of time on the clock for D1 after my vote.


So many things wrong with your last post.
- Attacks the weakest player in the game NW, WITHOUT placing a vote. Just a casual "wow you are so scummy"
- Makes an association case between NW and Bduddy.
- Claims he will make his case and we will have plenty of time to analyze and go over it. Nice case he's made.

##Vote: Frogron

We need to step it up town. The only two players I can identify as even having a chance at being town are Krafla and Rainbows. If you are town and have been content to just stay quiet and not contribute, wake the fuck up. Nobody is getting replaced tonight, stop talking about it. Everybody has posted D1 the only way somebody is getting replaced is if they don't vote.

The following players are also on my list of potential scum

Arctic Daishi - Playing the noob card after lurking for 36~ hours, NOT a smart move. I want to see some serious contribution from you starting D2 and if I don't I will be pushing for your lynch. Hell if Frogron can save his ass before the end of D1 from me I'll go after you in the next 7 hours.

Bduddy - Lurking, scummy, if Frogron hadn't contributed less I'd be happy to see him gone today. BUT he does claim he's been busy so for D1 he gets some slack. Could just be an uninterested townie. Nothing to really disprove that so far.

ChewOnStu - almost as bad as Frogron, really bad sheep vote. scummy.

NobodyWonder I was going to vote on for most of today but realized if he is lynched and flips town we gain nothing, I'm not against seeing him lynched as I agree he's scummy as hell but I don't want to put all of our eggs in one basket.

And then there is also Matriarch who is lurking as well... the largest problem I can see here, IS THAT THERE IS NO WAY ALL OF YOU ARE SCUM. So TOWNIES again I ask Wake The Fuck Up. I am seriously getting annoyed by the lack of activity out of you. You will cost us this game if you don't snap out of it before we end up lynching you.


This just in: Omni is town.

I agree with the sentiment that this lynch is going too smoothly. Zero opposition.

TOWN: Consider targets like ChewOnStu and Frogron. Good case by Omnizzle here.

I don't see how that's either a good case, an effective post or anything close to making Omni town. I also don't see the point in flat out calling someone town what 10 pages into day 1 is effective or useful. The only people who need to be thought of as town are scum.

Omni's #1 scum read seems to be based on activity alone. If that's the case then why would he disappear for 2 days once the pressure was off of him? I really just don't see how Omni is town.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 14 2013 00:37 GMT
#1211
On March 14 2013 09:20 MLuneth wrote:
I assume this is what you want?

No, if you're going to make a case, make a case; all you made we're some points most of which Sn0 already pointed out. I demand more.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 14 2013 00:53 GMT
#1213
On March 07 2013 11:14 OmniEulogy wrote:
I think policy lynches should be used as a last case scenario, if we are stuck at the end of D1, lynch the scummiest lurker.

I've been thinking a while and I think this is the main reason why I'm suspicious of Omni. At the end of D1, Artctic was clearly the scummiest lurker around IMO by a wide margin. The points that Raven and WoS re: Arctic had made were pretty clear. Yet, throughout OE's filter even from early on he seems to be defending Arctic and deflecting to Taco. From a town perspective, I can understand why OE found Taco as many of us did, but what I cannot understand from a town perspective ESPECIALLY using 'scummiest lurker' as a guide is why OE would try to shift votes toward Taco who was FAR less scummy that Arctic.
I can understand why, from a town perspective, he would want to question seemingly random votes. However I cannot understand why from that viewpoint he would seemingly focus more on random votes on Arctic more than other seemingly random votes.
The last point that I can't understand from a town perspective is why he would stop pressuring a lurker to stop lurking once they posted a little bit. His premise is that lurkers are bad for town which is a simple and straight forward position to take from either side. Yet now he's completely lurks. If he (as town) really wants to push people to not lurking, then there is no reason to stop pushing them. From a town perspective with this basis he should be trying hard to fight against lurkers and pressuring them constantly. However, I don't see him doing that at all.
While his filter is longer, it doesn't look to me that he's doing more than trying to appear active and helpful. This is the basis of scum: he doesn't follow through on his perceived 'town' agenda--This is scum mentality. He also doesn't try to push his 'town' agenda (scummiest lurker) against the obvious target--Arctic--because it goes against his actual agenda of keeping Scum alive.
This makes him Scum. Vote OE.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 14 2013 01:27 GMT
#1217
No, you have failed to demonstrate how my play has been consistent with the inherent guilt of mafia or the anti-town mentality. You have proposed a theory as to why my actions could be scum aligned while not giving any credence to why as town I could be taking said actions. I suggest you read my filter more carefully as well as you have missed some posts.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 14 2013 01:46 GMT
#1219
@NW. What points are you not buying re:OE and why?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 14 2013 02:05 GMT
#1222
I plan to continue to hammer OE, but posting from phone limits what I can do.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 14 2013 02:08 GMT
#1223
That said, I'd like to see a more expansive analysis of the OE case than just... Kinda bad, kinda good, etc. stances like that let scum get away with easy positions without doing any work.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 14 2013 02:36 GMT
#1228
@Frogon why do you feel it is acceptable to try and push someone without making a case? No offense meant, but bitching about Luneth not being dead is not pushing your read.
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