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@Rainbow I'll take another look at Lune. I know I preferred OE lynch over Lune , but both are on my highly suspicious list. | ||
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1. Lurker -- Nothing inherently scummy about this. While scum can tend to lurk, town tends to lurk just as hard in my experience. So negative points for Frogon but not scummy points (if that makes sense) 2. Wishy-washy -- 3. Argues that Frogon saying OE's filter was all mucked up is scummy -- Keeping a 'clean' and effective filter is exceptionally important to town. Sharing your thought process = good. Sharing your every thought = bad. This just looks to discourage interaction which is key to town. 4. Dislikes pressure without votes -- absolutely nothing wrong here especially as voting isn't the only form of pressure that can be applied. 5. Dislikes unflipped association cases -- fair, but association cases are just as commonly used (even preflip) by town and scum. Then he proceeds to throw suspicion on 4 players (including Arctic). His points against Chew/pre-Geript (sheep vote, lurking) and bduddy (lurking/not as bad as Frogon) are weak at best imo. As his points on Frogon are essentially null in my view, I see no reason for him to even be trying to lay out this case. Next he gets onto Taco for a sheep vote. While there's nothing wrong with calling people out for dumb votes, I haven't seen him try and either follow through a case OR do anything but pick on weak targets. Doesn't like Taco wanting people to take a stand (in words or vote) on other people Scum's best path to victory is quite simply that to be able to hide within wagons on poor cases. There's no meat in his taco case, it's all vegetarian much like his case on Frogon. The only valid point in his second case on taco is that he hadn't made a case up until that point; however if that's where the bar is at, then OE should be pressuring a number of other players. Why isn't he? Why does he seem to be picking on the tail end of the herd? Here's a key quote: On March 09 2013 05:50 OmniEulogy wrote: This is fair enough, but when you say contributing the least, you are on the bottom of that list. Otherwise you wouldn't have been the subject of my case. I will say that Chew looks just as bad though now that you've at least posted. So Frogon posting, even just a little bit, makes Chew an equal target to Frogon? That's just bad. The whole point of his case is because he wasn't contributing at all? That's just scummy for a single reason: Lynching lurkers is a means to remove scum's ability to hide. Making cases on lurkers/non-contributors is a waste of everyone's time. Case-building on lurkers isn't effective because there's little to nothing to point to and they give little to no information when flipped. This quote just tells me, "I made the case against you because you were an easy target that I wouldn't get blasted for. As well, it gets me off the hook for later on as I will LOOK like I'm contributing" The multiple soft defenses of Arctic have been documented. Not a whole lot more to mention about them other than the fact that there's more than just one of them. While he's 'fine' with switching to Artic, he wants to move pressure to Taco for one weak reason (which ALSO applies to Arctic). I'm not buying this, dude looks like SCUM #2 to me. Most of his filter is complete fluff as there almost no substance in what 7 pages now. The last point I'm going to make is the weakest imo but take it for what you will. In general, there's an inherent guilt in playing scum. While the natural reaction when attacked is to get defensive, instead of trying to strengthen his case on Taco, Frogon or his read on Luneth he instead goes full defensive. Got something to hide? His expansion on Taco just looks like he's grasping for straws. I'll be back in the morning or noon to look at Luneth again after I get some sleep and give you guys time to read and digest. | ||
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WoS... what don't you like about the OE case? You seem to have ignored it entirely. | ||
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Second, no Frogon and Taco haven't been his only targets. He's constantly been targeting perceived lurkers. Seriously read his filter. He's also tried to dissuade town from believing the far more towny looking players (WoS, Raven). He's also done little else than whine an bitch since I targeted him. Do you actually like his recent 'case' on Taco? Do you really think there are worthwhile points there? You say that OE cares about the lynch target. So what? Are scum not supposed to care who the lynch target is? In fact, the 'CARES' argument even makes OE look worse as the main people who want to defend scum are OTHER SCUM!!! | ||
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On March 11 2013 07:47 TheRavensName wrote: I feel so left out  IIRC, you preferred Taco to Luneth, could you expand on who you prefer for the lynch today? | ||
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##unvote ## vote meatless taco | ||
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On March 11 2013 11:33 OmniEulogy wrote: what? You realize the whole post wasn't directed solely at you right? lol Also Arctic was one of my scum reads. I wouldn't vote for somebody I didn't think was scum. Get your head out of your ass. On March 11 2013 12:04 geript wrote: OE why do you feel the need to tell us that Arctic was one of your scum reads? On March 11 2013 12:13 OmniEulogy wrote: I am becoming convinced that you can't understand most of the things you read. Also, if he was one of your "scum reads" which for whatever god forsaken reason you equate to "I called them scummy" then why did you make this post: On March 09 2013 07:27 OmniEulogy wrote: I really want to avoid trying to make a link between Arctic and Taco till after the flip. And if Arctic flips town I'm going to be kicking myself for not being able to persuade people to vote Taco, however I don't want to see NW lynched... I don't disagree that Arctic looks scummy, I just think Taco looks worse. That doesn't tell me that you think Arctic looks scummy. You even refuse to call him scummy; rather you wouldn't argue against that he looks scummy. You're actively thinking about Arctic as town and trying to say that he's a scum read and that he was one of your scum reads. Congratulations, we'll be lynching you tomorrow. | ||
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On March 11 2013 12:41 WaveofShadow wrote: I wasn't going to step in to try and let it die, but wtf is this Geript? I'm pretty sure we've established that we won't be lynching him tomorrow, as there are scummier people out there; most of the town has already agreed to this. Why are you still trying to push this? To me it looks like: a) You're really reaching and arguing semantics at the way OE decided to use the word scummy and the phrasing he used. If he's actively thinking of AD as town wouldn't that make him town (wrong, but town)? If he was scum he'd know what AD was. b) You're actively trying to stir up shit since OE seems to have a bit of a short fuse to him. There's nothing towny about actively looking for multiple reasons for actions from both town and scum perspectives. But why make the previous post about thinking about Arctic as town. It literally serves no purpose from town perspective. None whatsoever. Then he wants to pull bullshit like, "OMG I was totally sold that AD was scum. He was even one of my scum reads. See how towny I must be." Fuck that. That's not town play; that's simply stupid scum play. ##unvote ##vote OmniEulogy | ||
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