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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 12:06 iamperfection wrote: well good sir i just checked my role pm and it says regardless of what prom is i am town its very conditional like that <sarcasm> Guess what, mine said Im a duelist.... Thanks for deciding to lift ya game and make meaningful conversation </sarcasm> | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 12:10 The Macho Man wrote: how so Shit question, shit answer. Cos I thought so. Up ya game, its far from perfect. being in two games isnt an excuse for shit play or shit questions. wanna try asking again with something specific?[/QUOTE] well good sir i just checked my role pm and it says regardless of what prom is i am town its very conditional like that [/QUOTE] <sarcasm> Guess what, mine said Im a duelist.... Thanks for deciding to lift ya game and make meaningful conversation </sarcasm>[/QUOTE] ya you doing that meaningful covesation that im scum based on proms flip ya thats real useful.[/QUOTE] Where? I dont see it. I said I am keen to hear JJ thoughts on you post prome-flip... JJ clearly stated he was not going to be forthcoming with what he had till after the lynch. Dont see why that makes him scummy; and dont see why it pertains to conversation where I 'apparently' state you are scum. | ||
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MilkSuckler
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Macho Where? I dont see it. I said I am keen to hear JJ thoughts on you post prome-flip... JJ clearly stated he was not going to be forthcoming with what he had till after the lynch. Dont see why that makes him scummy; and dont see why it pertains to conversation where I 'apparently' state you are scum. | ||
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MilkSuckler
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Its not like being mayor though means you have to lead each lynch..I think this is a point we discussed prior. This game, the first lynch on prome is a null point for deciding between you two. The only difference is one guy gets a pardon (he isnt meant to use) and the other guy gets two votes in a 24person game (initially). Personally I dont care which of you two is mayor and the power isnt big enough to quabble over. Utlimately: I have my own leads to follow next cycle... its just a waiting game now. P.S. my vote is on Dr.H  | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 13:50 WaveofShadow wrote: Now as for scumhunting, we've gotten nowhere in a very long time as with Prom on the chopping block no one else appears to feel even remotely threatened.... You still pushing this buddying claim (regards to Geript) | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 13:59 WaveofShadow wrote: No, considering Geript hasn't offered anything up since I have absolutely nothing to go on. He's just as useless as half the other players in here. He's got a little suspicion on Dr. H...well great. Unless he comes up with something concrete then the guy he's suspicious of is gonna be mayor and he isn't altogether concerned. So you question a guy. he doesnt offer the goods... you give up. And then you have the tenacity to say scum hunting has gone no where.. What do you think is the right course of action here? I'm going to do a little filter diving to see what exactly a Prom flip is going to mean. Please compare the reactions of JungleJorge and TheMachoMan in regards to the prome flip. | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 13:58 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm having thoughts of "well if he's scum surely he's a great Vig shot overnight/autolynch the next day" I can see merit on this.. but its a big assumption to assume he have a vig considering there was like ~10 blue roles (to select from) IIRC I still think safest course of action is to lynch prome, and either of you is capable of that action. If we played along with the vig to hit prome... do you have an alternative target in mind for the D1 lynch? | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 14:10 VisceraEyes wrote: Being in agreement does change things. I'm open to discussion on the matter. I could see myself being swayed. Just lynch Chezinu pl0x... that last post was painful to read lolz  Can you expound: being in agreement does change things | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 14:25 VisceraEyes wrote: Expounding: "Being in agreement does change things" Town seems to be of the collective mind that DocH/I are the elections this game. You could still run if you wish, though you're not pushing it anymore. WF still in the running too, but again, he not really trying to win. And the votes are pretty much speaking for me. Because of this, that changes my view of Toad's original plan, and respectively my scumread of him. Right, i didnt realise the original context was in reference to testsubject commentary on toads plan. Noted. Has the scumread gone darker or lighter? Is the logic founded upon the plan itself; or thread interactions etc? | ||
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MilkSuckler
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I dont see how he is obfuscating anything. If you read the thread, it was clear he was addressing me. How are comments like this aiding scum hunting? You still haven't responded to my last query addressed to you... | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 14:41 geript wrote: By that you mean do I care to indulge you further? How so? I'm not seeing a real point from you. My point is you are reading an action: and predicting the trigger - and presenting that prediction as gospel. Or from matrix: cause and causality if you prefer Now that Dr.H has been more discrete with his motivation; has your stance altered? If not, I would like to see more reason behind your prediction/assumption. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399294¤tpage=59#1173 | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 14:59 geript wrote: I'm arguing what his motivation is from what his actions are; call that what you will. No my stance has since his previous posts has become more firm in that I trust him even less. His stance in actuality is that he is fine with becoming either wanting to allow people to slide him in. So what is the difference with VE or Wade Fell; or any of the other mayor candidates - 2nd place is pardoner regardless. I am still struggling to see why this point you raise is of such emphasis to dominate your filter. As an aside: Did you consider the e-peen contest? i.e. Regardless of the whether the role is useless, winning mayor elections is a nice cyber-trophy to win and use to gloat? | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 15:17 geript wrote: VE is actively running for mayor. WF I think is more comfortable letting other people take either title. I don't think he's seriously trying for either title overtly or covertly. His actions don't add up to that to me. Firstly, my question may be getting miscommunicated, so I will try a different tact. You have assessed the motives behind Dr.H mayor campaign, and state it is red with intent. Do you believe this is the sole intent; or are you using heuristics to support your conclusion. In other words: have you considered a town rationale for his actions; and if so, what heuristics are you using to refute their viability. ============ In regards to the reply: you dont think Wades first post is "trying overtly" to be mayor? You dont think his case on prome forming the platform for his campaign is "trying overtly" to be mayor? Is this correct? | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 15:41 Chezinu wrote: The bubble....the cocoon... both burst..... What does it mean? If only I knew what The Scribe had written to him... What hidden messages did he find.... The ninjas, who were they? What did they have to do with The Scribe. Whatever The Scribe knows, it had a great impact on this Isunizehc guy.... something the causes him to burst out of the bubble... Something that drove the motives of his heart to accelerate... kind of like a catalyst... what were these stories? What secrets did they hold? I must find the rest of that signal or atleast trace it's origin. It seems years since I detected that last signal... My mind feels as the fragments themselves. I must find them to make myself and the fragments whole again. I much prefer the riddles of Vayesh | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 15:43 geript wrote: Seeing as how WF hasn't made real splashes to be mayor since the initial campaign, I think he's resigned himself to not being able to grab it and quit trying. I have considered town actions for DrH, but a soft campaign makes far more sense as scum than as town. I see little other intent that makes any sense. OK we are starting to get somewhere. What I keep seeing from you are end-game conclusions.. i.e. its a scum tell... (in your opinion) Walk me through why a soft pitch is more likely to be scum tell? In particular why it is a scum tell in the context of Dr.H. We all have different real life experience, and thus different heuristics. Explain to me what you see, that I am not noticing. | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 15:53 VisceraEyes wrote: Ultimately I'm still leaning scum, but his suggestion at the beginning of the game wasn't a bad one if we can pull it off. I want to see more from him. It wasnt a bad suggestion yes. BUT IMHO its not alignment indicative. Its an easy stance to take (especially for a guy that has played in a setup with the role before) Further, yes the pardoner might save a lynch; but it effectively makes the pardoner the lynch the next day. I can see scum suggesting to throw this role away no probz. Especially early day1, before the QT is fully organized. Agreed on all other points. | ||
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MilkSuckler
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Prescient Having or showing knowledge of events before they take place. (1) No.. I did not know Toad was going to take that course of action. i.e.I am not in scum QT with toad. OR (2) Do i have a guess on toads intention with the plan.. not sure.. please fill in the blank. | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 15:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Scum uses pardoner to force an earlier LYLO, not to save the first teammate on the gallows. It can actually be the difference between winning/losing later in the game. It's not entirely insignificant. Ahh kk.. i thought that could be the case, but wrote it off, because that woudl mean the pardoner survives to end game. | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 15:58 Chezinu wrote: I must have drifted. Both physically and mentally as my ship continues on its unguided path and my mind formulas a world of its own. In this world, I found myself on a planet. As many out, it was barren. Yet there was hope in the sky for without it, one would not breathe. I was a wanderer, drifting from town to town. I stood in a crowd witnessing the devastation of the land, the bodies, and the hearts. It was a primitive dwelling. Yet it had a history of greatness. There I was amongst a people. A people I did not know. I offered friendship while dead corpses rot and distrust spreads. Few talked to me, most ignored me. Then I woke. Once again, I am talking to you my dear Boatee. Your the only one keeping track of me. Without you, I guarantee what little thoughts I have in line would be scattered. I love you Boatee. I gots to work now. I know you will miss talking to me, but I have to find those signals! On February 27 2013 15:46 MilkSuckler wrote: I much prefer the riddles of Vayesh Insert *still* | ||
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MilkSuckler
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If so, why go to that effort.. why not just keep you two as the top 2 votes and save the hassle of a mass coordination event (that sorry to be pessimistic) will fall flat on its face (too many lurkers....) | ||
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