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On February 28 2013 23:38 Vivax wrote:
I don't care if Toad wants me vigged, glurio is scum and should be taken care of one way or another.
This RO guy soft pushing me when the mood swings over is scummy as fuck as well.
not really reading right now but I just saw that one. Is someone saying I want you vigged? Because I don't. I said (just like hassy) that you're a possible vig-target at best, not a lynch target.
I'd say there's at least 2 or 3 people who look way worse than you though, probably even leaning town on you right now.
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On March 01 2013 02:45 WaveofShadow wrote:Also fuck you Mocsta, I'll bad town you.  For the record I agree I'm lurking more than I expected to but being in school all day and having a 2-month old kid to take care of all night will do that to you. I'm not sure why you automatically gravitate to the VE vote count for analysis, btw.
VE already mentioned it: He didn't want to be mayor, he rage'ed around the deadline and he was pretty damn unreasonable when he raged. All points that should make someone question VE and yet people ended up voting him as mayor, which is somewhat weird unless it's a "fuck this DrH guy!" attitude going around.
I actually agree with him. People voting VE without proper reason are weird because they should have at least stumbled upon his later posts doubting him but they apparently didn't.
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On March 01 2013 02:56 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 02:50 Toadesstern wrote:On March 01 2013 02:45 WaveofShadow wrote:Also fuck you Mocsta, I'll bad town you. For the record I agree I'm lurking more than I expected to but being in school all day and having a 2-month old kid to take care of all night will do that to you. I'm not sure why you automatically gravitate to the VE vote count for analysis, btw. VE already mentioned it: He didn't want to be mayor, he rage'ed around the deadline and he was pretty damn unreasonable when he raged. All points that should make someone question VE and yet people ended up voting him as mayor, which is somewhat weird unless it's a "fuck this DrH guy!" attitude going around. I actually agree with him. People voting VE without proper reason are weird because they should have at least stumbled upon his later posts doubting him but they apparently didn't. Uh...here's my proper reason: Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 06:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm probably not going to be around until 30 min or less before day end, so I'm going to stick with my vote on VE because I have no way of knowing if the plan is going to work out. Good luck, and VE, remember that there are a lot of people who are doing their best to trust you.
I haven't thus far seen any reasons you shouldn't be lynching Prom today. This was quite a while before the lynch, well before VE started going nuts. Yes he was flip-flopping a bit and so i could've voted Dr.H instead (didn't want to vote BH, didn't like his single-mindedness) but meh. I wasn't going to be around and VE was a decently safe vote. Hell I even left my vote on him and warned him before I left. Simple as that. You're welcome to dive into my filter to find more Mocsta, but in my opinion it probably makes more sense to confirm higher-priority targets for tonight/tomorrow like people's thoughts on Vivax or Hassy. I personally have another in mind, but as I said, it's coming.
oh I didn't say I agree with him that you're red. I agree with the general assumption VE made and that's the reasoning for the post.
I didn't actually look in that kind of stuff at all yet because I think we've got better ways to deal with people and better peopel to target straight away.
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On March 01 2013 03:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Toad explain your grush read if you don't mind
he's not town imo.
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On March 01 2013 07:26 jcarlsoniv wrote:Also, concerning Toad: He never made any response or acknowledgement to this post I made (as far as I know) Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 09:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:On February 28 2013 09:07 Toadesstern wrote:
that being said Laya, VE (sadly), and I myself are all pretty much confirmed town, dr.H as well though not as much (from a objective point of view ignoring everything else because of timestamps, if you add everything else he probably looks better than the 3 of us).
So protecting anyone in that list sounds good to me.
Grush is the next mafia that needs to be either shot or vigged.
See you tomorrow. On February 28 2013 09:24 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2013 09:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:On February 28 2013 09:20 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2013 09:17 jcarlsoniv wrote:On February 28 2013 09:11 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2013 09:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:Oh, cool. Gj guys. On February 28 2013 09:07 Toadesstern wrote:
that being said Laya, VE (sadly), and I myself are all pretty much confirmed town, dr.H as well though not as much (from a objective point of view ignoring everything else because of timestamps, if you add everything else he probably looks better than the 3 of us).
So protecting anyone in that list sounds good to me.
Grush is the next mafia that needs to be either shot or vigged.
See you tomorrow. I'm not sure if I missed something, but why is laya confirmed town? And you would obviously say that you're confirmed town yourself... I don't think Laya and VE would sheep me onto voting prom 2 hours into the game if they'd be in his team at all. No way at all. Why are you assuming Laya and VE are on the same team? I haven't had anything that's made me necessarily think laya is town. It would be very easy for scum to gain town cred by sheeping Prom. From very early in the day, it was clear that he was going to be killed. The only real question was who would be the mayor to do it. Look at the timestamps. I voted Prom 2 hours into the game telling people to dayvig, vote him in case we don't have a dayvig and ignore everything else because we need to make sure Prom dies no matter what. Both Laya and VE agreed with that. Again, 2 hours into the day. There's about NO WAY one of those 2 is mafia based on it, especially considering that they both sheeped my initial post, the one that was barely explained and only a request for prom to explain himself that made him scumslip 30 minutes afterwards. VE and Laya both agreed before that happened. Ok, I acknowledge that logic. However, that doesn't make them 100% townie in my eyes, nor does it make you 100% townie - especially considering how hard you were trying to make sure EVERYONE knows it was your idea. I know they're not 100% town, neither am I for you guys... I'm using that word assuming everyone knows that when I use it means "pretty much really likely town" and not actually mod confirmed... Mostly because it's shorter saying that. ಠ_ಠ
I ignored it because I don't understand what you're trying to say. I use the phrase "confirmed townie" for people that are looking really townish, people who are almost really confirmed because there is no such thing as a confirmed townie anyway and saying "this guy is really reall really really really likely to be town because of X" is way longer than saying "confirmed townie" when everyone knows how I'm using it.
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On March 01 2013 07:43 layabout wrote:
As in toad brought attention to yamato and was one of the first votes on him vivax should know that Toad would do this as scum, Toad also discussed how he had know problems bussing teammates early on.
(if you want to read if Toad was smurfing as wewinmafia)
that's a lie, as already mentioned and shown. Not sure if I gave links but I'm pretty sure Vivax accused me of this bullshit already somewhere down the road and I called bullshit on him.
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Guess there can't be anything done about people not having a clue... Anyways shoot Macho / Grush and one out of BC / chez.
There'll be 2 or 3 mafias in there imo. The lynch on prom wasn't easy because it was an early bus (I know I'm town I am pretty damn certain VE and Laya are just being stupid right now) but because noone did something against it.
I'd say that means we have a vet on team mafia who wasn't around or wasn't active. That's BC and Chez for me right now. Maybe Dr.H because he started being active late but that's unlikely.
Don't lynch VE if someone was really stupid enough to shoot me because of what people said lately and don't listen to any "one of VE/Toad has to be mafia crap". We're both really egocentrical, both really volatile, both really proud, both resentful and those kind of attitudes easily clash with each other. So despite still being really angry about this game and being told I'm mafia for *insert random towntrait here* I realy don't think he's mafia.
Look for people who kept on telling bullshit about how we should be lynching into anyone like VE or me today (once grush and Macho are dead) because again, I'm pretty damn certain there won't be a mafia in Laya / VE and I'm also pretty damn certain Dr.H / BC aren't stupid.
Maybe BH is an alternative as well, he's been really unreasonable throughout d1 but that's kind of his thing so he's really hard to judge for me and I'd say BC / Chez are way more likely to flip mafia than BH is. Still, don't listen to anyone spouting nonsense about how we have to lynch into people looking good because the lynch was to easy. If that's the case (I'm pretty certain it wasn't) you deal with those people later on. Deal with people who are easy to read and lynch people who are looking bad because they're looking bad. Don't make it overly complex and try to pull big plays by lynching some random dude that makes 0 sense to lynch unless *insert fancy conspiracy theory* is true.
That's it from me for today. I ignored everything VE said.
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On March 01 2013 08:40 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 08:07 Toadesstern wrote:On March 01 2013 07:43 layabout wrote:
As in toad brought attention to yamato and was one of the first votes on him vivax should know that Toad would do this as scum, Toad also discussed how he had know problems bussing teammates early on.
(if you want to read if Toad was smurfing as wewinmafia) that's a lie, as already mentioned and shown. Not sure if I gave links but I'm pretty sure Vivax accused me of this bullshit already somewhere down the road and I called bullshit on him. Must of misremember then. I would swear you have talked about bussing or calling out your teammates and that it's something you have done before. Not saying you did it this game though.
the point was that I was actually really late on yamato and only ended up being 3rd on his vote because 4 or 5 people who voted him before me unvoted him after I voted him so I went from 7th vote on yamato to 3rd in fruity. Also I did that on purpose because marv was in the game and I posted in the newbie game I coached to never bus your teammates d1 unless you know that they can take it.
So I was telling yamato what to post and how to deal with it to make sure it's not happening but it still was happening...
Btw posted the above so early because I'm playing dota and want to make sure I don't end up being too late: p
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On March 01 2013 09:27 The Milkman wrote:Now that is a roleblock I can understand. What do you make of Vivax claiming rb as well?
it's 1:30 in the morning and I'm playing dota. I have no idea what happend.
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##vote MachoMan
see you in 48 hours.
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oh and actually just a little explaining, I'm still reading but only answering if I have to because it's not really worth it. Here are my thoughts I had when talking with someone outside of the game (you're allowed to talk & post as long as the guy is not in the game, right?^^):
+ Show Spoiler +[27.02.2013 12:58:52] Erik: yamato keeps telling me I'm mafia because I wasn't agressive enough and stopped being agressive after the first 2 or 3 hour (duh, after the first 2 hours it's 4 am german time...)
[27.02.2013 12:59:42] Erik: how can I be more agressive than calling for a dayvig 2 hours into the game betting VE's left ball on the guy being mafia..
[27.02.2013 13:00:17] Erik: it's like there's this aura of retardation when people who aren't called Syllo, Sand or Marv are dealing with me
[27.02.2013 13:04:06] Erik: the worst part really is people telling me I'm mafia because of "insert Town-trait here"... that's just so annoying
[27.02.2013 13:04:31] Erik: like the biggest difference in meta imo is that when I'm town I don't mind about emotions at all, which leads to the hypno-toad kind of thing
[27.02.2013 13:04:44] Erik: as mafia I'm controlling that stuff because I have to to not look odd
[27.02.2013 13:04:53] Erik: and I'm getting told I'm mafia because of that..
[27.02.2013 13:05:26] XXX: yeah
[27.02.2013 13:05:37] XXX: and you can't defend yourself with it either which is also very annoying
That's pretty much the reason I was mad earlier. I've got this bullshit 3 times in a row now. I've been told I'm mafia last game because "Toad posts a lot of walls of text! He isn't doing that when he rolls town! LYNCH HIM". This time it's not being agressive enough early on while it's 2 am or because "lynch was too easy, let's lynch Toad", or because of "Toad badding his own back, must be mafia!" when everyone knows that I regulary do that as town when I'm mad to rub it into peoples faces and I don't do that as mafia. Check Mafia L for example... I told people Palmar is town d1, told people Sandro is mafia d1, people lynched Palmar and later on Sandro and EVERYONE was mad at me because "how does Toad know Palmar is town when everyone thought he's mafia and how did you know Sandro was mafia so early on?" and everyone in the game tried to lynch me for that although it isn't even a mafiatrait in the slightest.
Okay back to this game: VE basicly said I'm mafia because I'm so egocentrical and focused about myself which again, is a towntrait for me and when confronted with it answered "duh, you know about it. Meta you know about yourself isn't worth a damn". No shit sherlock, knowledge about my own meta and the assumption that I can play and confuse you with that makes it a null though if you really think so and not a mafiatrait.
So if you want me to answer something give me something that I can answer. I'm not going to explain why something that is a towntrait really is a towntrait this game as well and not some fancy mafiaploy from me because there's no possible way to do that. When you want to lynch me because "well Toad looks really good with the d1 lynch but he looks too good! Must have been a bus! LYNCH HIM" there's nothing I can do about it. That's why I told Greymist I'm going to stop being mad about people being bad and will just ignore them from now on (you probably know the timing of that one). I'm still sticking to that promise.
See you in 48hours.
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On March 01 2013 20:37 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 20:22 Toadesstern wrote:
So if you want me to answer something give me something that I can answer.
I'm a bit more certain on him. Also people seem to agree about him which makes it less likely I'm wrong about him.
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On March 01 2013 21:13 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 20:38 Toadesstern wrote:On March 01 2013 20:37 Aquanim wrote:On March 01 2013 20:22 Toadesstern wrote:
So if you want me to answer something give me something that I can answer.
On March 01 2013 20:11 Aquanim wrote:
Why Macho Man? I'm a bit more certain on him. Also people seem to agree about him which makes it less likely I'm wrong about him. What exactly makes him scummier than Hassybaby?
haven't read his filter once so far so no idea about Hassy and to me he's a vig target not a lynch target. But I guess there's no vigs or people like grush / Hassy / Macho would be dead around now...
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On March 01 2013 23:27 iamperfection wrote:
fuck you flood control i got more to say
Anyone not voting for toad has to explain to me how him not caring about this lynch at all is not the scummiest thing ever committed.
I'm not afk. I said I'm going to ignore everything that is said about me that is impossible to talk about, like all the bullshit about how I am supposed to be mafia bussing prom, because there's no way to defend or say anything against that kind of stuff because you're literally saying "toad looks too townish to be town, got to be a mafialploy".
I'm still here reading and answering stuff that is worth being answered. Just like this one because you don't seem to understand what I said, or at least intended to say.
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On March 01 2013 23:16 The Macho Man wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 20:22 Toadesstern wrote:oh and actually just a little explaining, I'm still reading but only answering if I have to because it's not really worth it. Here are my thoughts I had when talking with someone outside of the game (you're allowed to talk & post as long as the guy is not in the game, right?^^): + Show Spoiler +[27.02.2013 12:58:52] Erik: yamato keeps telling me I'm mafia because I wasn't agressive enough and stopped being agressive after the first 2 or 3 hour (duh, after the first 2 hours it's 4 am german time...)
[27.02.2013 12:59:42] Erik: how can I be more agressive than calling for a dayvig 2 hours into the game betting VE's left ball on the guy being mafia..
[27.02.2013 13:00:17] Erik: it's like there's this aura of retardation when people who aren't called Syllo, Sand or Marv are dealing with me
[27.02.2013 13:04:06] Erik: the worst part really is people telling me I'm mafia because of "insert Town-trait here"... that's just so annoying
[27.02.2013 13:04:31] Erik: like the biggest difference in meta imo is that when I'm town I don't mind about emotions at all, which leads to the hypno-toad kind of thing
[27.02.2013 13:04:44] Erik: as mafia I'm controlling that stuff because I have to to not look odd
[27.02.2013 13:04:53] Erik: and I'm getting told I'm mafia because of that..
[27.02.2013 13:05:26] XXX: yeah
[27.02.2013 13:05:37] XXX: and you can't defend yourself with it either which is also very annoying That's pretty much the reason I was mad earlier. I've got this bullshit 3 times in a row now. I've been told I'm mafia last game because "Toad posts a lot of walls of text! He isn't doing that when he rolls town! LYNCH HIM". This time it's not being agressive enough early on while it's 2 am or because "lynch was too easy, let's lynch Toad", or because of "Toad badding his own back, must be mafia!" when everyone knows that I regulary do that as town when I'm mad to rub it into peoples faces and I don't do that as mafia. Check Mafia L for example... I told people Palmar is town d1, told people Sandro is mafia d1, people lynched Palmar and later on Sandro and EVERYONE was mad at me because "how does Toad know Palmar is town when everyone thought he's mafia and how did you know Sandro was mafia so early on?" and everyone in the game tried to lynch me for that although it isn't even a mafiatrait in the slightest. Okay back to this game: VE basicly said I'm mafia because I'm so egocentrical and focused about myself which again, is a towntrait for me and when confronted with it answered "duh, you know about it. Meta you know about yourself isn't worth a damn". No shit sherlock, knowledge about my own meta and the assumption that I can play and confuse you with that makes it a null though if you really think so and not a mafiatrait. So if you want me to answer something give me something that I can answer. I'm not going to explain why something that is a towntrait really is a towntrait this game as well and not some fancy mafiaploy from me because there's no possible way to do that. When you want to lynch me because "well Toad looks really good with the d1 lynch but he looks too good! Must have been a bus! LYNCH HIM" there's nothing I can do about it. That's why I told Greymist I'm going to stop being mad about people being bad and will just ignore them from now on (you probably know the timing of that one). I'm still sticking to that promise. See you in 48hours. you claiming scum? 1.thats not an explanation at all 2. it looks like you dont give a shit about this lynch if your gonna afk for 48 hours 3. thats is scummy as fuck i will be here as always you could at leat have tried to make a case toad you could of but are you afraid that my attention is not divided my townieness will start to burn like it always does. your checking out makes no sense.
okay just once as an example what I'm talking about:
1) exactly, because there's nothing to explain. Ask me what you want me to explain and I'll do it. Stop telling me to answer stuff like "Toads meta is nothing like it was in furity but I don't like it, so lynch him" because I can't explain or defend against something like that if there's no point to it to begin with.
2) That's actually true but I'm not afking for 48hours.
3) What I said about 1. Tell me what you consider scummy. I can't answer like that. I'm getting this crap from the very beginning of this game up until now and people are like "woah toad is totally ignoring it!"...
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On March 01 2013 23:51 The Macho Man wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 23:48 Toadesstern wrote:On March 01 2013 23:27 iamperfection wrote:
fuck you flood control i got more to say
Anyone not voting for toad has to explain to me how him not caring about this lynch at all is not the scummiest thing ever committed. I'm not afk. I said I'm going to ignore everything that is said about me that is impossible to talk about, like all the bullshit about how I am supposed to be mafia bussing prom, because there's no way to defend or say anything against that kind of stuff because you're literally saying "toad looks too townish to be town, got to be a mafialploy".I'm still here reading and answering stuff that is worth being answered. Just like this one because you don't seem to understand what I said, or at least intended to say. um excuse me the way you defend yourself is to hunt scum not being all whiny that people arent giving you enough town cred. and you SHOULD know that.
I do. I got prom lynched d1. I'm pretty damn certain you and/or Grush are mafia. Noones listening to anything I say with all the paranoia VE started for no apparent reason anyways so no I'm not going to bother explaining more than I already did and I did.
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On March 01 2013 23:53 The Macho Man wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 23:51 Toadesstern wrote:On March 01 2013 23:16 The Macho Man wrote:On March 01 2013 20:22 Toadesstern wrote:oh and actually just a little explaining, I'm still reading but only answering if I have to because it's not really worth it. Here are my thoughts I had when talking with someone outside of the game (you're allowed to talk & post as long as the guy is not in the game, right?^^): + Show Spoiler +[27.02.2013 12:58:52] Erik: yamato keeps telling me I'm mafia because I wasn't agressive enough and stopped being agressive after the first 2 or 3 hour (duh, after the first 2 hours it's 4 am german time...)
[27.02.2013 12:59:42] Erik: how can I be more agressive than calling for a dayvig 2 hours into the game betting VE's left ball on the guy being mafia..
[27.02.2013 13:00:17] Erik: it's like there's this aura of retardation when people who aren't called Syllo, Sand or Marv are dealing with me
[27.02.2013 13:04:06] Erik: the worst part really is people telling me I'm mafia because of "insert Town-trait here"... that's just so annoying
[27.02.2013 13:04:31] Erik: like the biggest difference in meta imo is that when I'm town I don't mind about emotions at all, which leads to the hypno-toad kind of thing
[27.02.2013 13:04:44] Erik: as mafia I'm controlling that stuff because I have to to not look odd
[27.02.2013 13:04:53] Erik: and I'm getting told I'm mafia because of that..
[27.02.2013 13:05:26] XXX: yeah
[27.02.2013 13:05:37] XXX: and you can't defend yourself with it either which is also very annoying That's pretty much the reason I was mad earlier. I've got this bullshit 3 times in a row now. I've been told I'm mafia last game because "Toad posts a lot of walls of text! He isn't doing that when he rolls town! LYNCH HIM". This time it's not being agressive enough early on while it's 2 am or because "lynch was too easy, let's lynch Toad", or because of "Toad badding his own back, must be mafia!" when everyone knows that I regulary do that as town when I'm mad to rub it into peoples faces and I don't do that as mafia. Check Mafia L for example... I told people Palmar is town d1, told people Sandro is mafia d1, people lynched Palmar and later on Sandro and EVERYONE was mad at me because "how does Toad know Palmar is town when everyone thought he's mafia and how did you know Sandro was mafia so early on?" and everyone in the game tried to lynch me for that although it isn't even a mafiatrait in the slightest. Okay back to this game: VE basicly said I'm mafia because I'm so egocentrical and focused about myself which again, is a towntrait for me and when confronted with it answered "duh, you know about it. Meta you know about yourself isn't worth a damn". No shit sherlock, knowledge about my own meta and the assumption that I can play and confuse you with that makes it a null though if you really think so and not a mafiatrait. So if you want me to answer something give me something that I can answer. I'm not going to explain why something that is a towntrait really is a towntrait this game as well and not some fancy mafiaploy from me because there's no possible way to do that. When you want to lynch me because "well Toad looks really good with the d1 lynch but he looks too good! Must have been a bus! LYNCH HIM" there's nothing I can do about it. That's why I told Greymist I'm going to stop being mad about people being bad and will just ignore them from now on (you probably know the timing of that one). I'm still sticking to that promise. See you in 48hours. you claiming scum? 1.thats not an explanation at all 2. it looks like you dont give a shit about this lynch if your gonna afk for 48 hours 3. thats is scummy as fuck i will be here as always you could at leat have tried to make a case toad you could of but are you afraid that my attention is not divided my townieness will start to burn like it always does. your checking out makes no sense. okay just once as an example what I'm talking about: 1) exactly, because there's nothing to explain. Ask me what you want me to explain and I'll do it. Stop telling me to answer stuff like "Toads meta is nothing like it was in furity but I don't like it, so lynch him" because I can't explain or defend against something like that if there's no point to it to begin with. 2) That's actually true but I'm not afking for 48hours. 3) What I said about 1. Tell me what you consider scummy. I can't answer like that. I'm getting this crap from the very beginning of this game up until now and people are like "woah toad is totally ignoring it!"... if you are going to be here and going to help find scum then i dont think your scummy at all. But when someone says lynch this guy and says they are going to afk then yes i would think that is a scum claim
what part of: "You're mafia and I figured out prom 2 hours into d1 bitches" don't you understand?
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On March 01 2013 23:56 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 23:48 Toadesstern wrote:On March 01 2013 23:27 iamperfection wrote:
fuck you flood control i got more to say
Anyone not voting for toad has to explain to me how him not caring about this lynch at all is not the scummiest thing ever committed. I'm not afk. I said I'm going to ignore everything that is said about me that is impossible to talk about, like all the bullshit about how I am supposed to be mafia bussing prom, because there's no way to defend or say anything against that kind of stuff because you're literally saying "toad looks too townish to be town, got to be a mafialploy".I'm still here reading and answering stuff that is worth being answered. Just like this one because you don't seem to understand what I said, or at least intended to say. Ok, here, instead of asking a question directly about you: Could you possibly explain why macho is scum?
Iamp is the easiest guy to read on TL when he's town. He's being an ass, not being scared about anything he says, saying everything what's on his mind no matter if it makes sense or not and basicly a WBG-junior just without being as much correct about what he's saying.
He completly and utterly lacks the ability to bring said "I don't care / I'm not afraid / I say what I want to say" attitude to the table when roling mafia and I didn't see it at all d1, and only very little sparks of it d2.
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On March 02 2013 00:04 The Macho Man wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 00:01 Toadesstern wrote:On March 01 2013 23:56 jcarlsoniv wrote:On March 01 2013 23:48 Toadesstern wrote:On March 01 2013 23:27 iamperfection wrote:
fuck you flood control i got more to say
Anyone not voting for toad has to explain to me how him not caring about this lynch at all is not the scummiest thing ever committed. I'm not afk. I said I'm going to ignore everything that is said about me that is impossible to talk about, like all the bullshit about how I am supposed to be mafia bussing prom, because there's no way to defend or say anything against that kind of stuff because you're literally saying "toad looks too townish to be town, got to be a mafialploy".I'm still here reading and answering stuff that is worth being answered. Just like this one because you don't seem to understand what I said, or at least intended to say. Ok, here, instead of asking a question directly about you: Could you possibly explain why macho is scum? Iamp is the easiest guy to read on TL when he's town. He's being an ass, not being scared about anything he says, saying everything what's on his mind no matter if it makes sense or not and basicly a WBG-junior just without being as much correct about what he's saying. He completly and utterly lacks the ability to bring said "I don't care / I'm not afraid / I say what I want to say" attitude to the table when roling mafia and I didn't see it at all d1, and only very little sparks of it d2. well it doesn't really matter since you wont be able to get me lynched even if you do try since this game now has my full attention. Since your not lynching me want to kill hasy with me?
Awesome, so I explain it and the answer is "well it doesn't really matter because noone listens to you anyways"... yeah not exactly what you said but that's about it.
And you still don't understand my point of view for not caring at all? For people who don't know about it, read TL Mafia LVIII, the exact same thing happened, everyone got suspicious about me for bullshit reasons, I ended up saying "well if noone is willing to listen to me might as well lurk for the next 48 hours, see you at deadline, here are my reads I've got:XXXX".
VE got in the thread telling people I claimed mafia if said post and that everyone needs to lynch me because town-toad would not ever post like that, they lynched me, I flipped town, we lost the game.
Just saying.
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