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Fark EBWOP Macho Where? I dont see it.
I said I am keen to hear JJ thoughts on you post prome-flip... JJ clearly stated he was not going to be forthcoming with what he had till after the lynch.
Dont see why that makes him scummy; and dont see why it pertains to conversation where I 'apparently' state you are scum.
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On February 27 2013 12:12 WaveofShadow wrote: What happened to Aquanim?
Sleeping then busy all morning. Just got home. (Nice timing.) I'm willing to talk about stuff but I'm not going to have anything meaningful to say off my own bat for a little while.
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So Aqua, what do you think of Dr.H?
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On February 27 2013 12:51 geript wrote: So Aqua, what do you think of Dr.H? I like the way he thinks. Town. Why do you ask? Also, what is your read on DocH?
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I've been at work on my phone so I apologize for not being clear but quoting is a bitch. Testsubject, that post was 80% aimed at geript. My point really is someone getting trust is only a problem of you hate their ideas or think they are likely scum. Hopefully we are all aware that noone is confirmed at this point so its a nonissue. The only outcome of a post like that is either seeding distrust on town or making me defend against nothing. May be an honest townie mistake though, its important to look at your posts as a means to the end of killing scum.
As far as interest in mayor again I've made it clear I don't care who is elected. Only who is lynched. If a scum mayor wins and busses prom thats a town victory in my book. I'm only now saying if people would rather vote me, then its fine. How this an obvious scum ploy to grab pardoner i don't understand.
Geript, should I be lynched today? Straight up do you think I'm scum?
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Also i don't see how any good case could be dependant on a flip. Not like mafia attack eachother in thread or buddy on townies or anything. It certainly makes analysis easier but I think people can definitely get caught up in trying to look at connections more than individuals. I think if prom flips red its unlikely everyone defending him is scum.
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On February 27 2013 13:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I've been at work on my phone so I apologize for not being clear but quoting is a bitch. Testsubject, that post was 80% aimed at geript. My point really is someone getting trust is only a problem of you hate their ideas or think they are likely scum. Hopefully we are all aware that noone is confirmed at this point so its a nonissue. The only outcome of a post like that is either seeding distrust on town or making me defend against nothing. May be an honest townie mistake though, its important to look at your posts as a means to the end of killing scum.
Yeah, that's fair. I may be guilty of trying to get too fancy in my reasoning and strategy. Now that we're spending so much time analyzing it, I'm not really in love with the way that post of mine turned out. It did however seem to succeed in making sure that no one is going to overlook you, if there ever was a threat of that, so its not a total loss.
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I'm too aggressive to be overlooked. Don't worry about that.
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No. Not yet, but raising suspicion. That doesn't mean that I don't intend to look at and analyze you at all. You say you have no interest in being mayor or pardoner, but that you aren't interested in moving votes elsewhere either. None of this makes any sense. You don't want to be mayor; cool. You don't want to be pardoner; cool. You don't want people to move their votes elsewhere; hunh? One of these is not like the other. This is just like Apollo's and Romo's search for a non-Roslin, non-Zarek president option in BSG; it's a rigged search. You want people to come to the natural conclusion of you at least being on the list. Not buying it.
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So geript, why did you ask me for my read on DocH?
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Because you were apparently on.
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Why haven't you asked anyone else? Why DocH in particular?
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Vote VE since I think he's the towniest and I like his play the most. Not sure if I'll have time to do much tomorrow might make it back an hour or so before dead line and might be able to sneak a few posts from phone. Almost forgot to vote before going to bed.
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Because I'm becoming suspicious of him and I would like to see other viewpoints to verify if it is just confirmation bias. Would you prefer I asked a broad question to all 24 other people?
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On February 27 2013 02:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: ...
I think ObviousOne (for reasons already mentioned, read posts by Aquanim and the Milkman, I can go more in depth) is likely mafia. I also think vigilantes/detectives ought to look closely through the filter of WaveofShadow and jcarlsoniv with a copy of Ver's Town Guide in the next tab and see what you feel like doing tonight.
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On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Gotta love seeing the mafia panic as soon as I get any cred. I'm not even pushing my own election. If I'm pardoner i wont use the power. Noone is confirmed town unless you're scum and already know or they die and flip. If your suspicion is based on the fact that I'm not confirmed as town, then kill anyone.
Misrepresenting as hell to say all i did was pressure prom a little. I made the biggest case to get the wagon rolling and I nailed wos and vivax to the wall immediately when I got wary of their posts. Even if I'm wrong about prom, my aggression and focus will have the scum sweating.
Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax
Gg no re
If you don't trust me, don't vote for me. If you're suspicious of me have the balls to call me scum. If your goal is to discredit a player who is scumhunting aggressively then you're not helping, especially if you can't point out how my case is so flawed, or honestly represent my post history. Geript has admitted only that i make him nervous and i doubt the town feels the same way. Hmmm who might react that way then?
Prom dies today, everyone else gets pressure. I'll save my next case for when it matters because splitting the wagons now does no good.
If you're just coming in now to discredit active townies after being absent from all productive town discussion, kiss your scum ass goodbye and learn how to play next time.
@DoctorHelvetica, where did the scum reads on ObviousOne, WoS and jcarlsoniv go?
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On February 27 2013 13:31 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 02:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: ...
I think ObviousOne (for reasons already mentioned, read posts by Aquanim and the Milkman, I can go more in depth) is likely mafia. I also think vigilantes/detectives ought to look closely through the filter of WaveofShadow and jcarlsoniv with a copy of Ver's Town Guide in the next tab and see what you feel like doing tonight.
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Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Gotta love seeing the mafia panic as soon as I get any cred. I'm not even pushing my own election. If I'm pardoner i wont use the power. Noone is confirmed town unless you're scum and already know or they die and flip. If your suspicion is based on the fact that I'm not confirmed as town, then kill anyone.
Misrepresenting as hell to say all i did was pressure prom a little. I made the biggest case to get the wagon rolling and I nailed wos and vivax to the wall immediately when I got wary of their posts. Even if I'm wrong about prom, my aggression and focus will have the scum sweating.
Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax
Gg no re
If you don't trust me, don't vote for me. If you're suspicious of me have the balls to call me scum. If your goal is to discredit a player who is scumhunting aggressively then you're not helping, especially if you can't point out how my case is so flawed, or honestly represent my post history. Geript has admitted only that i make him nervous and i doubt the town feels the same way. Hmmm who might react that way then?
Prom dies today, everyone else gets pressure. I'll save my next case for when it matters because splitting the wagons now does no good.
If you're just coming in now to discredit active townies after being absent from all productive town discussion, kiss your scum ass goodbye and learn how to play next time. @DoctorHelvetica, where did the scum reads on ObviousOne, WoS and jcarlsoniv go? I don't think he meant that we're scum with that comment.
So are we dead-set on having VE and Dr.H as Mayor/pardoner at this point? Do we know 100% what their motives are for D1 (Prom lynch) and will they stick to them? Does it matter which one gets which role?
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On February 27 2013 13:40 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 13:31 Aquanim wrote:On February 27 2013 02:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: ...
I think ObviousOne (for reasons already mentioned, read posts by Aquanim and the Milkman, I can go more in depth) is likely mafia. I also think vigilantes/detectives ought to look closely through the filter of WaveofShadow and jcarlsoniv with a copy of Ver's Town Guide in the next tab and see what you feel like doing tonight.
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On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Gotta love seeing the mafia panic as soon as I get any cred. I'm not even pushing my own election. If I'm pardoner i wont use the power. Noone is confirmed town unless you're scum and already know or they die and flip. If your suspicion is based on the fact that I'm not confirmed as town, then kill anyone.
Misrepresenting as hell to say all i did was pressure prom a little. I made the biggest case to get the wagon rolling and I nailed wos and vivax to the wall immediately when I got wary of their posts. Even if I'm wrong about prom, my aggression and focus will have the scum sweating.
Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax
Gg no re
If you don't trust me, don't vote for me. If you're suspicious of me have the balls to call me scum. If your goal is to discredit a player who is scumhunting aggressively then you're not helping, especially if you can't point out how my case is so flawed, or honestly represent my post history. Geript has admitted only that i make him nervous and i doubt the town feels the same way. Hmmm who might react that way then?
Prom dies today, everyone else gets pressure. I'll save my next case for when it matters because splitting the wagons now does no good.
If you're just coming in now to discredit active townies after being absent from all productive town discussion, kiss your scum ass goodbye and learn how to play next time. @DoctorHelvetica, where did the scum reads on ObviousOne, WoS and jcarlsoniv go? I don't think he meant that we're scum with that comment. So are we dead-set on having VE and Dr.H as Mayor/pardoner at this point? Do we know 100% what their motives are for D1 (Prom lynch) and will they stick to them? Does it matter which one gets which role?
Trying to answer this question made me realize how much having to decide Mayor and Pardoner really sucks for town. Why can't we just vote on who we kill like every other game I've played.
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Anyway, I'm heading to bed then working in the morning, so expect me to be out of touch until a few hours before the deadline. I'll do my best to be caught up with time to spare, but I can't make any promises.
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Honestly at this point, I could see just requesting Doc being mayor if he really wants it. I'm not 100% on all of his reads due to ignorance on my part, but he seems confident and to be fair I'm not really 100% on where to go after Prom. He seems to. As I read him as town, I can step down and let Doc do it up. We're lynching the same guy anyway.
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