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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
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March 03 2013 21:14 GMT
#3140
On March 04 2013 06:14 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 06:11 layabout wrote:
Wait a minute.

Player X claims jailer.

Player X expects to live through the night.

Now forgive me if i am wrong but wouldn't that suggest player X might not really be a town jailer?

So jj is scum. Since toad was roleblocked, vivax must be lying about beingroleblocked to allow for jj's claim and thus jj and vivax must both be scum.

where did he say he expects to live

Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 03 2013 21:23 GMT
#3142
On March 04 2013 06:18 layabout wrote:
Well he doesn't think it's worth explaining why he is certain RO is scum. What kind of townie would do that?
Especially a townie that expects to die.


an annoying one.

but ro filter is pretty bad he could be bother to check in and vote chezinu but has been totaly absent otherwise. looks like scum just piling onto a bus.
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 04 2013 00:38 GMT
#3205
On March 04 2013 09:34 JungleJorge wrote:
I want to know who was roleblocked. I don't understand why scum wouldn't block either me or vivax if he is town. It wouldn't be the first time vivax shot his mafia buddy. Something to consider.

thats not something to consider for a very long time.

he could have just shot me and nobody wold have blinked.
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 04 2013 15:03 GMT
#3403
On March 05 2013 00:03 iamperfection wrote:
hasy hasnt posted since February it is now march. will he be modkilled?

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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 05 2013 01:55 GMT
#3451
i guess we should just wait

howeer geript lasts posts seem to be testing the waters in whether he should bother in making a case or not.
that is scummy to me.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 05 2013 02:13 GMT
#3455
On March 05 2013 11:11 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 10:55 The Macho Man wrote:
i guess we should just wait

howeer geript lasts posts seem to be testing the waters in whether he should bother in making a case or not.
that is scummy to me.

Is there an actual reason behind this post?

ya im saying your last few posts are supers scummy

just post your case instead of bitching.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 05 2013 02:16 GMT
#3456
On March 05 2013 11:09 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 10:55 The Macho Man wrote:
i guess we should just wait

howeer geript lasts posts seem to be testing the waters in whether he should bother in making a case or not.
that is scummy to me.

Agreed in full. hence the deadline.

So after this flip TMM, whose your next target?

if gerpit flips scum i believe hasy will flip as the final scum.
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 05 2013 03:21 GMT
#3471
your being pissed off makes no sense we have only lynched and killed mafia
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 05 2013 04:44 GMT
#3481
On March 05 2013 13:03 geript wrote:
Either way, moving forward I prefer lynches on WoS, TMM, Vivax in that order.

you know why your mafia? becasue you refuse to have any discourse with town what so ever in your reads. If your town you should be trying to convince me why those players are mafia.

as for me you could ask me questions or try to explain why im mafia so i have something to respond to but no you just want to show your position you have no real intention in hunting scum. This is why i tihnk your mafia because you seem to hae no interest in actually figuring out alignments nor wish to push those reads in order to lynch scum. You just say these are scum and then just spam nonsense for no reason.

like it would be so easy to make a case against me if you wanted to you could just say something simple like iamp usally gives a shit about town it doesn't look like he cares that much or something along those lines. Instead you say these guys are mafia and fuck you town you intend to have no discourse what so ever with the town.

if you are town why not just talk it out?
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 05 2013 04:54 GMT
#3484
On March 05 2013 13:50 MilkSuckler wrote:
Hi TMM.

Congratulations on what I assume is to be your first post this game exceeding more than 2 lines

Well done.

implying more than one or two lines is necessary.
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 05 2013 15:38 GMT
#3513
how about instead of using our supposed "town flips" to push our cases we instead you know do it the right.

Hasy being scum supports the idea of a scum team that has given up who takefully dies later today
geript still refuses to talk about anything really besides feeling sorry for himself.

That is where i believe the final scum are.
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 05 2013 17:00 GMT
#3521
how about we just ask

Can the mutant attack himself?
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 05 2013 17:07 GMT
#3526
its more redundant why force the mutant to shoot if he can shoot himself.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 05 2013 17:08 GMT
#3527
so there is no mutant.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 05 2013 17:09 GMT
#3528
unless vivax is it which i deem to be unlikely.
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 06 2013 01:54 GMT
#3587
glurio should be the next lynch this is super scummy
On March 02 2013 01:17 glurio wrote:
Ok i caught up. (Kinda skimmed since grushs fakeshot.)
I believe vivax is telling the truth with his roleblock and vig statement.
Also i think chez is probably a misguided town-dayvig would scum be so bold and really just shoot someone who isn't a big scumread in the face like that?

I took a look at vayesh's filter. The reads he mentioned are the following:

Wade Fell
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 27 2013 06:36 VayeshMoru wrote:
It has come to the annuls of a man so lazy he forgot to don his mask. The shadows that adorned the face of this everywhere layer should come to reach the eyes of all. Tremble the men of black should start. The marching feet of justice shall not halt.


A list of reads by VE where he thinks Toad might be third party
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On February 27 2013 07:15 VayeshMoru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 07:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:05 VayeshMoru wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
We're both pretty obviously lynching Prom. I'm not sure what you're getting at.


Thoughts on more than one you have. Thoughts plentiful the doctor does have. Whichever most fall in a parallel line shall be the course to the voting shine.


Yeah okay.

Well here's where I'm at.

MilkSuckler, Toadesstern, Promethelax

Clearly you've seen how Toad is trying to take credit for the Prom lynch. Milk did the same thing directly after WF's case. They have both been downright indignant about it.

What do you make of that? For my part I take it as scummy. I'm town, and my thoughts when others agreed was "whew" not "That bastard is trying to take credit for what I DID!" The scrambling for acknowledgement of their contributions to the upcoming lynch reads as trying to soak up town cred to me.


of those thoughts Vayesh sees one common thought. A second thought is almost in align and the third is not yet fully concluded. The amphibian seems more some mutating thing, or perhaps the one who sells spirits. The man of bovine is still not fully alluded.


geript
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On February 27 2013 09:25 VayeshMoru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 09:24 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 27 2013 09:21 geript wrote:
Prome I have more null to null minus as it feels more like he's intentionally trying to lynch himself. Right now I'm leaning more towards RO as all his posts read to me more towards general disinterest to trying to do anything. My problem is that I'm having trouble placing the underlying emotion so that I could really place the disinterest in perspective.

You have a habit of not replying to all questions directed your way.

& not quoting the questions.. makes it hard to assess your filter.. I would like to assume this behaviour is not intentional.. even phone posting its not hard to click "quote"

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399294&currentpage=58#1156
For the question you chose not to address (for whatever reason)


the ripped man is a man of the darkness. His serpentine ways are merely a habit of his nature



Here a list of DrH where he agrees:
layabout
JJ
geript
testsubject
vivax
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On February 27 2013 11:17 VayeshMoru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Gotta love seeing the mafia panic as soon as I get any cred. I'm not even pushing my own election. If I'm pardoner i wont use the power. Noone is confirmed town unless you're scum and already know or they die and flip. If your suspicion is based on the fact that I'm not confirmed as town, then kill anyone.

Misrepresenting as hell to say all i did was pressure prom a little. I made the biggest case to get the wagon rolling and I nailed wos and vivax to the wall immediately when I got wary of their posts. Even if I'm wrong about prom, my aggression and focus will have the scum sweating.

Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax

Gg no re

If you don't trust me, don't vote for me. If you're suspicious of me have the balls to call me scum. If your goal is to discredit a player who is scumhunting aggressively then you're not helping, especially if you can't point out how my case is so flawed, or honestly represent my post history. Geript has admitted only that i make him nervous and i doubt the town feels the same way. Hmmm who might react that way then?

Prom dies today, everyone else gets pressure. I'll save my next case for when it matters because splitting the wagons now does no good.

If you're just coming in now to discredit active townies after being absent from all productive town discussion, kiss your scum ass goodbye and learn how to play next time.


Vayesh likes the words flowing from your gallifreyan mouth. The synconization of thoughts is more alike than that of any other soul. The logical conclusion is to give you power of the death machines.


Toad scum/3rd party again
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 28 2013 07:40 VayeshMoru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 07:37 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:34 VayeshMoru wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:32 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:30 glurio wrote:
I actually really don't wanna vote for VE, all his comments about possibly not lynching prom based on whatever mood he has?
Why are you pushing for VEs election toad? There is a chance that he'll just lynch you, he already said that before. I don't get it.

he's kind of stupid and emotional but there's no way he's stupid enough to lynch me. He knows that'll get him instalynched if he's mafia and it has to be a joke trying to make me rage if he's town, though I don't really see the reasoning for that one...

Anyways, if Prom comes in 2nd there's literally no way any mayor we elect can pull bullshit on us. I like the idea and we can just ignore VE once he becomes mayor. At least that's my plan for d2.


VE has day vigi'd people who he knew were town (as town) to attempt to get someone he wanted lynched. He has revenge killed people for getting him lynched on bad play. He has countless number of examples of this style of play. You pushing for him this hard after his flip flopping of who he'd lynch compared to the steadfastness of Bh and drH baffles me.


I think I'm more safe if Prom comes in 2nd. As I just said there's literally no way anyone can not lynch that way.
VE comming in 1st while prom is not 2nd is kind of scary to be honest. He's incredibly volatile, incredibly emotional, as you just said but there's no way he could just not lynch prom if prom's the pardoner.

As I said, VE being mayor isn't what I want at all but when I said it he was at 10 votes and the 2nd guy was at 5 votes... I'm trying to make the best out of it. I don't want VE in either position to be honest but we'll have to work with him I guess.


Seriously stop dude. This entire play of yours is extremely anti town. I like VE. When hes on the ball he is a beast. Its getting him to that zone though and personally I find he works better at it with less pressure on him instead of more.

However you just said "him for mayor isn't what I want" and then describe him as volatile, and emotional" after calling him stupid.

If you were town you would not want this man in office.

Toad is scum / third party


geript again
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 28 2013 11:02 VayeshMoru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 11:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's explicit in my posts, I have nothing to fear.


geript is scum so fear him you should not


Chez scum/3rd party
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On March 01 2013 08:50 VayeshMoru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 08:35 Toadesstern wrote:
Guess there can't be anything done about people not having a clue... Anyways shoot Macho / Grush and one out of BC / chez.
There'll be 2 or 3 mafias in there imo. The lynch on prom wasn't easy because it was an early bus (I know I'm town I am pretty damn certain VE and Laya are just being stupid right now) but because noone did something against it.
I'd say that means we have a vet on team mafia who wasn't around or wasn't active. That's BC and Chez for me right now. Maybe Dr.H because he started being active late but that's unlikely.

Don't lynch VE if someone was really stupid enough to shoot me because of what people said lately and don't listen to any "one of VE/Toad has to be mafia crap". We're both really egocentrical, both really volatile, both really proud, both resentful and those kind of attitudes easily clash with each other. So despite still being really angry about this game and being told I'm mafia for *insert random towntrait here* I realy don't think he's mafia.
Look for people who kept on telling bullshit about how we should be lynching into anyone like VE or me today (once grush and Macho are dead) because again, I'm pretty damn certain there won't be a mafia in Laya / VE and I'm also pretty damn certain Dr.H / BC aren't stupid.

Maybe BH is an alternative as well, he's been really unreasonable throughout d1 but that's kind of his thing so he's really hard to judge for me and I'd say BC / Chez are way more likely to flip mafia than BH is. Still, don't listen to anyone spouting nonsense about how we have to lynch into people looking good because the lynch was to easy. If that's the case (I'm pretty certain it wasn't) you deal with those people later on. Deal with people who are easy to read and lynch people who are looking bad because they're looking bad. Don't make it overly complex and try to pull big plays by lynching some random dude that makes 0 sense to lynch unless *insert fancy conspiracy theory* is true.

That's it from me for today. I ignored everything VE said.


This post from you shows a large lack of understanding of the bc and chez meta for mafia.

I will agree that chez is likely mafia or third party. My reasoning however is based on how upset he was about rolling red in LIX. He had 0 interest in the game when he rolled red then and similar level of sentiment here would indicate same shit. However given that he attempted to save some of his team in LIX and has done dickall here I would argue third party more likely than red.

Given that I was posting the way I was the contributions I made were imo fine as well as the fact I came out and stopped you from doing something stupid.

I am fine with a vig shot on macho or grush as they have near crap to really form a solid lynchable opinion on at this venture.

I seriously want someone to stop this shit ive seen reoccuring in virtually every game ive played in recently where people get to say "bc is scum or likely scum shoot him/lynch him" with no reasons posted. It leads me to post lists of who I think is scum and not give anyone the benefit of my thought process as people piss me off to the point I feel they don't deserve it.

Stop trying to discredit me without an actual case.


And his death post:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 08:57 VayeshMoru wrote:
not sure why obviousone is on so many lists -_-

However

Jcarlsoniv
Geript
Junglejorge
Layabout
Hassy
Chez

likely in that list is 2 mafia and 1 third party.

Haven't put in much more thought but RO, WF and milkman should all be on everyones watch lists as well. If DrH stops contributing like he did day 1 then hes likely third party.

Before anyone asks why I care about mafia and third party. Town has to off them to win as well.


If you just look at the posts i quoted isolated, geript is clear winner with 4 posts about him.
I do think we can find scum if we look at what he posted because there must be a reason why he got killed.

He mentioned the following people (number of times they got mentioned):

geript (4)
toad (2)
chez (2)
JJ (2)
layabout (2)
hasyy (1)
jcarlsoninv (1)
wade fell (1)
vivax (1)
testsubject (1)


Summuing up what someone else did is super scummy becasue it is a great way to look like your contributing when your really not. if people wanted to see what vayesh had said in the game they could just read his filter rendering this post by glurio pointless besides making himself look like contributing.

On March 04 2013 08:45 glurio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 20:36 Aquanim wrote:
On March 03 2013 20:30 geript wrote:
No, I thought he was town while you were attacking him. Call it starsenses, call it whatever you want. In rereading, and specifically thinking that the dude is disengaged from the game. Nothing particularly scummy about not wanting to play but feeling obligated to.

Yeah I can sympathise with that.

But it's whatever man, I think we're all agreed that I'm getting lynched tomorrow so you really shouldn't have to worry about it; like we all know that no matter what I flip, everyone's going to be saying "no reason to read him, dude's terrible."

If you survive the night I'll wager 5 internet points that you don't get lynched tomorrow. A little bird has whispered in my ear.


That is such a weird post. I really don't understand it.

Sorry for not being here much this weekend.

RO does look pretty scummy. But so does geript, and if we follow vayesh's reads (he was right with chez too) he should be lynched tomorrow imo.
And yes i believe jcarlsoniv is a good vig shot.


He also continues ti hide behind a dead mans read instead of his own. This is scummy becasue he dosn't want the responsiblity of putting his own thoughts out there and ants to use the wieight of confirmed town to support what he says.

Combine this with overall lack of activity and concern for the lynch and he has an extremly high chance to be mafia.

This guy should be our lynch tomorrow.
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 06 2013 02:15 GMT
#3589
On March 06 2013 11:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 10:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If I survive to Day 4 it means one of two things.

1. Scum won't waste a shot on me with 1 KP assuming I'm a veteran or there could be another doc in the game
2. Scum are intentionally avoiding shooting "big name vets" (I hate saying that) to mask that they are led by one. - This is a plan I've personally employed as scum, to intentionally hit lurkers/less experienced players to push suspicion onto different vets around Day 3-4.

jcarlsoniv, why would you believe Chezinu is town and JungleJorge is somehow a scumslipper? You're one of only three people to not vote Chez yesterday including myself and geript (who voted for himself). Do you still believe that Vivax and JungleJorge hatched a plan together? Would you suggest they are the two remaining scum?

If anyone else considers that to be the case, note that Prom FoS'd JJ before he was lynched and Vivax FoS'd JJ as well in his largest post.


I don't remember saying that I think Vivax and JJ hatched a plan together?

I thought Chez would flip town because I honestly thought he would be a better player than that. I was mistaken.

I began leaning town on JJ because of his RB claim, but after last night's shenanigans (or lack thereof - still speculating on whether or not scum sent in their actions), who the hell knows?

I could certainly see Vivax being SK, and if he is, it means he'll be shooting someone else tonight.

he has to shoot so his claim makes very little sense from an sk perspective he is extremely likely to be town.

what do you think of glurio?
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 06 2013 03:21 GMT
#3596
i also don't like that glurio thought i was town early on when he had no reason to think so nor did he back it up with any reasoning. Since i had planned on using my macho man persona mostly for my own enjoyment early on.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 06 2013 15:09 GMT
#3637
Why is like no one commenting on glurio?

I caught scum guys lets kill him.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 06 2013 15:29 GMT
#3641
On March 07 2013 00:28 iamperfection wrote:
why did you have a town read on me early on glurio?

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