On March 03 2013 09:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Geript and jcarls need to get whacked tonight
I strongly urge you to reconsider sending your little minions after me. Me dying would be a poor fate indeed.
Well, how do you think you are perceived.. now that your best bud Chez was split red?
(this is written antagonistically intentionally)
While I'm sad that my read on Chez was wrong, I'm more than happy that we've gotten 2 scum in a row by D2 - something I'm not sure I've ever personally seen.
@ObviousOne:
seems to be upset that we lynched scum
Could you please show me where you are perceiving that I seem unhappy that we lynched scum?
On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote: Surely atleast some scum tried to switch to Geript. I doubt scum would get in the position for both candidates to be scum.
Geript: I appreciate that you are starting to contribute (or at least trying to). As Wade said, tossing out your town reads isn't really all that helpful. I'm curious to see what happens with Hassy. I'm assuming he'll be modkilled with the day post, so we may find our answers to his alignment at that point.
On March 03 2013 20:30 geript wrote: No, I thought he was town while you were attacking him. Call it starsenses, call it whatever you want. In rereading, and specifically thinking that the dude is disengaged from the game. Nothing particularly scummy about not wanting to play but feeling obligated to.
But it's whatever man, I think we're all agreed that I'm getting lynched tomorrow so you really shouldn't have to worry about it; like we all know that no matter what I flip, everyone's going to be saying "no reason to read him, dude's terrible."
If you survive the night I'll wager 5 internet points that you don't get lynched tomorrow. A little bird has whispered in my ear.
Um...what? Care to explain?
I have a gymnastics meet today, so I'll be unavailable the majority of the day.
On March 03 2013 23:29 jcarlsoniv wrote: Geript: I appreciate that you are starting to contribute (or at least trying to). As Wade said, tossing out your town reads isn't really all that helpful. I'm curious to see what happens with Hassy. I'm assuming he'll be modkilled with the day post, so we may find our answers to his alignment at that point.
On March 03 2013 20:36 Aquanim wrote:
On March 03 2013 20:30 geript wrote: No, I thought he was town while you were attacking him. Call it starsenses, call it whatever you want. In rereading, and specifically thinking that the dude is disengaged from the game. Nothing particularly scummy about not wanting to play but feeling obligated to.
Yeah I can sympathise with that.
But it's whatever man, I think we're all agreed that I'm getting lynched tomorrow so you really shouldn't have to worry about it; like we all know that no matter what I flip, everyone's going to be saying "no reason to read him, dude's terrible."
If you survive the night I'll wager 5 internet points that you don't get lynched tomorrow. A little bird has whispered in my ear.
Um...what? Care to explain?
I have a gymnastics meet today, so I'll be unavailable the majority of the day.
And every day, lurker scum. Oh boy, I'm so excited for the prospect of listening to another day of geript's retarded reads and tunneling. Oh well you guys are welcome to follow up on his reads if you want, but I'm basically ignoring everything that's come out of his mouth at this point.
Need I remind you that you were the one who pushed me into joining this game?
Forgive me, but I'm getting pretty sick of you constantly harping on my activity levels despite you knowing FULL well what my schedule is.
Milksuckler: thank you for saying what I've wanted to say. It means more coming out of someone else's mouth.
To reiterate, why would I (as scum) defend Chez so hard when he was all but dead? I truly thought he would flip green, and I was (obviously) wrong.
But if it will ease everyone's minds, by all means, kill me tomorrow. It's not like we don't have people to spare. My death should be fun AND informative!
On March 05 2013 07:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Because when scum has its back against the wall, coming up on a second lynch in a row they'll try anything I'd think.
I remember a game when I asked scum to bus me cause I was gonna die anyway and they just kept defending me anything. WIFOM.
And I mean, I get that. But yeah, it's super WIFOM.
On March 05 2013 15:17 WaveofShadow wrote: I am in no danger.
You forgot to add (yet) at the end
Well it won't be for a while in any case. I'm not sure exactly what kind of support a Geript-led campaign is going to pick up considering he's written himself off; knowing what I know I have no reason to trust his reads nor should anyone else and I have made cases explaining as such. Hell I'm not even worried about NK possibility because not only am I not a high-priority target (since I'm not as useful as the vets have been) but thanks to yours and Geript's suspicion I bet scum will assume you guys'll lynch me at some point and leave my death up to town. If I DO die, it wouldn't matter either because the game right now is heavily in town's favour and it's gonna take a lot more than one mislynch to turn the tide. Worst case scenario, you flip me D4 and Soniv gets implicated. Best case, I prove my innocence to the powers that be and Soniv (or Aquanim? Still want Soniv) dies. Win-win for me.
On March 06 2013 10:03 WaveofShadow wrote: My stance right now is since we (probably) don't have any vig bullets left we need to start eliminating the rest of the lurkers, or at the very least get them to speak the fuck up. It is way too easy for the final two (plus 3rd party?) to hide. Jcarlsoniv grush glurio randombum These are the worst 4 offenders imo. I include Glurio even though I believe him to be town based on meta.
iamp and JJ are toeing the line right now; have contributed more lately and been slightly more useful, especially JJ. OO I consider to be lurking since he didn't do anything for almost 3 days. (Although his de-lurk was pretty decent.)
That is 7 players here with not a great amount of activity this game.VERY easy for one or both scum to be hiding here since none of them (aside from iamp and maybe OO) have been under any amount of real pressure at all or done a great deal of contributing.
I am inclined to agree. Though it would be AWESOME if Dr.H or WF was scum.. i find it unlikely given the general apathy of scum play so far.. suggest they were defeated from the start.
I am inclined to consider one of the below three should be tomorrows lynch Randombum; Aquanim; TheMachoMan
I liked randombum earlier, but, yes, recently he has been non-existent.
Actually I would vote for him now if I could.
I'm curious.
You say you agree, and yet you don't agree with WoS's opinion that I'm top scum. In fact, you even defended me during the day cycle.
May I ask why you don't hate me like everyone else does?
On March 06 2013 10:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If I survive to Day 4 it means one of two things.
1. Scum won't waste a shot on me with 1 KP assuming I'm a veteran or there could be another doc in the game 2. Scum are intentionally avoiding shooting "big name vets" (I hate saying that) to mask that they are led by one. - This is a plan I've personally employed as scum, to intentionally hit lurkers/less experienced players to push suspicion onto different vets around Day 3-4.
jcarlsoniv, why would you believe Chezinu is town and JungleJorge is somehow a scumslipper? You're one of only three people to not vote Chez yesterday including myself and geript (who voted for himself). Do you still believe that Vivax and JungleJorge hatched a plan together? Would you suggest they are the two remaining scum?
If anyone else considers that to be the case, note that Prom FoS'd JJ before he was lynched and Vivax FoS'd JJ as well in his largest post.
I don't remember saying that I think Vivax and JJ hatched a plan together?
I thought Chez would flip town because I honestly thought he would be a better player than that. I was mistaken.
I began leaning town on JJ because of his RB claim, but after last night's shenanigans (or lack thereof - still speculating on whether or not scum sent in their actions), who the hell knows?
I could certainly see Vivax being SK, and if he is, it means he'll be shooting someone else tonight.
On March 06 2013 10:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If I survive to Day 4 it means one of two things.
1. Scum won't waste a shot on me with 1 KP assuming I'm a veteran or there could be another doc in the game 2. Scum are intentionally avoiding shooting "big name vets" (I hate saying that) to mask that they are led by one. - This is a plan I've personally employed as scum, to intentionally hit lurkers/less experienced players to push suspicion onto different vets around Day 3-4.
jcarlsoniv, why would you believe Chezinu is town and JungleJorge is somehow a scumslipper? You're one of only three people to not vote Chez yesterday including myself and geript (who voted for himself). Do you still believe that Vivax and JungleJorge hatched a plan together? Would you suggest they are the two remaining scum?
If anyone else considers that to be the case, note that Prom FoS'd JJ before he was lynched and Vivax FoS'd JJ as well in his largest post.
I don't remember saying that I think Vivax and JJ hatched a plan together?
I thought Chez would flip town because I honestly thought he would be a better player than that. I was mistaken.
I began leaning town on JJ because of his RB claim, but after last night's shenanigans (or lack thereof - still speculating on whether or not scum sent in their actions), who the hell knows?
I could certainly see Vivax being SK, and if he is, it means he'll be shooting someone else tonight.
he has to shoot so his claim makes very little sense from an sk perspective he is extremely likely to be town.
what do you think of glurio?
Pretty much...this is why I think Vivax is probably town. We'll find out tonight with # of shots anyway. Unless of course there is no SK and Vivax as mafia shot RO to throw us off...but that strikes me as being really really dumb.
So Soniv, if you plan on sticking around for more than 5 minutes, who are your scumreads right now and why?
Not quite sure at the moment. I was fairly sure that either geript or hassy would flip scum.
I feel like there's one (if not both) in the following list:
On March 06 2013 13:35 MilkSuckler wrote: For filter
On March 06 2013 13:04 Mocsta wrote:
On March 06 2013 12:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 04 2013 09:15 Vivax wrote:
On March 04 2013 09:10 JungleJorge wrote: Vivax I assume you are claiming the RO kill? I jailed layabout. I wasn't roleblocked. Some fishy stuff happened here, or scum team is retarded and an amazing chain of coincidences just happened.
I shot RO yes. If what you say is true then there should be a second guy roleblocked by scum, unless layabout is the mafia roleblocker.
Uh...didn't you ask him yourself if he claimed RO kill and he said yes?
n revised thoughts on glue-man
@ WoS
I'll tell you what. I'll do it if I know someone other than you is going to read it.
Whats that meant to mean?
I am not even asking you something to do... you suggested it upon yourself
On March 06 2013 12:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Alright this makes me want to have another go at glurio's filter, though even if I find something that changes my mind from my earlier town stance I can't see myself wanting to lynch him ahead of the other 3 I mentioned. I remember feeling very strongly early that he was town; but I'll check to be sure.
The filter is not exactly a big one to digest.... so stop being a bitch and complaining
Ooooo Mocsta angwy. I'm serious though. Why should I keep feeding information that only you are going to use? Are you the town in its entirety? How are you going to be using the information I give you in the form of my read on Glurio? You're right I did suggest that I was going to do it; but I changed my mind. I don't find any compelling reason to do it right now. I'm not about to die anytime soon, after all.
DrH himself (the one you've been so keen to buddy up to most of the thread) said earlier this game:
Someone who says they are going to do something and never does it is probably scum (I may be paraphrasing).