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Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 01 2013 12:26 GMT
#2561
On March 01 2013 21:25 Wade Fell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 21:24 Aquanim wrote:
On March 01 2013 21:20 Wade Fell wrote:
...we're getting all confused when we should be _focused_ on killing chez.

STOP BEING CONFUSED
EXPLAIN WHY U NO VOTE CHEZ

Because I want to learn something today?


No.

Fuck that reason.

Fuck it .


I dont' care about learning, I don't care about anything but lynching scum, and CHEZ IS SCUM.

Why would anything other than lynching scum matter

I'd like to lynch scum tomorrow too.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 01 2013 12:36 GMT
#2563
I said lynch scum tomorrow, not lynch chezinu tomorrow. I have no interest in parking a vote on chezinu and going AFK for 40 hours though.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 01 2013 12:41 GMT
#2567
sorry, I'm playing dota
skimread your case and it looks legit
want to compare it to chez's filter though
I'll get back to you in an hour
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 01 2013 13:26 GMT
#2569
So, the chezinu case.

I reckon you're right that Chezinu is being unusually useless this game. I can't fathom why Chezinu wouldn't put more effort into appearing useful even if he did roll scum, but I agree that this is more likely from scum Chezinu. (Intend to read LIX later to see his scum meta.) I also can't fathom why he shot Milkman but that applies regardless of his alignment :/

So yes, my feeling is that Chezinu is scum. My feeling is less strong than yours, but then I do not know Chezinu as well. For reference my feeling is "Yeah, I'm comfortable with this lynch" as opposed to "LYNCH IT WITH FIRE".

However. Regardless of whether that's true or not there are other scum in the game. (For instance, Hassybaby.) I think my time can be more profitably spent looking for scum elsewhere. If I don't have a scumread as strong as the one for Chezinu as the end of the day approaches I'll vote for a Chezinu lynch.

We done?
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 01 2013 13:30 GMT
#2570
EBWOP:
However. Regardless of whether Chezinu is scum or not...
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 01 2013 13:37 GMT
#2572

p50; layabout decides to support the prome lynch, and then leaves his options by throwing some town pointers on prome -> which is where the hassy reference ties in.
On February 26 2013 11:53 Promethelax wrote:
Hassy vanished. Scummy.
On February 26 2013 11:55 Promethelax wrote:
You k ow hassy at all? Would he vanish like that as town?

If anything, this makes hassy more likely to be town (unfortunately) ... i.e. prome sniffed an easy target to push as scum.

You mean this?
Your point here was that Prom said that Hassy was scummy I believe.
IIRC at that point Prom was pretty dead and he knew it. (Even if the entire thing wasn't a preplanned bus.) As such analysing based on pretty much any reads he gave are WIFOM at best.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 02 2013 00:33 GMT
#2737
On March 02 2013 07:11 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 07:08 Wade Fell wrote:
On March 02 2013 07:05 Vivax wrote:
If Chez indeed flips scum then I'll nominate his play for worst claim 2013 lol.

I disagree. If he's a mafia day vigi, perhaps he realizes that he cannot possibly stop the freight train-like momentum of a BH-backed push. He fires immediately and claims town day vigi, just to move us a half-step closer to lylo, since it's the last thing he could do for his team.

Given that he's chez and how comprehensive my case against him is, it's reasonable. He can't go shooting someone super obviously town if he wants a chance to live (people would know he's scum if he show me, for example), and he doesn't want to shoot an ally or someone who's lynchbait.

It seems to me his action perfectly aligns with what a scum chez would do in this case-- reasonable and not bad.


Imo Milkman was good lynch bait, but maybe that's just me.
For the rest, it makes sense. Mafia doesn't lose KP with his death anyway so he might as well have tried to get that action out quickly.

...
Mafia is at 4 players currently.
If they lose another player they will be at 3.

Mafia KP is Mafia #/2 Rounded Down with a minimum of 1.

4/2 rounded down is 2.
3/2 rounded down is 1.
So if one more scum dies they will lose a KP.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 02 2013 00:39 GMT
#2739
On March 02 2013 09:34 Wade Fell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 09:33 Aquanim wrote:
On March 02 2013 07:11 Vivax wrote:
On March 02 2013 07:08 Wade Fell wrote:
On March 02 2013 07:05 Vivax wrote:
If Chez indeed flips scum then I'll nominate his play for worst claim 2013 lol.

I disagree. If he's a mafia day vigi, perhaps he realizes that he cannot possibly stop the freight train-like momentum of a BH-backed push. He fires immediately and claims town day vigi, just to move us a half-step closer to lylo, since it's the last thing he could do for his team.

Given that he's chez and how comprehensive my case against him is, it's reasonable. He can't go shooting someone super obviously town if he wants a chance to live (people would know he's scum if he show me, for example), and he doesn't want to shoot an ally or someone who's lynchbait.

It seems to me his action perfectly aligns with what a scum chez would do in this case-- reasonable and not bad.


Imo Milkman was good lynch bait, but maybe that's just me.
For the rest, it makes sense. Mafia doesn't lose KP with his death anyway so he might as well have tried to get that action out quickly.

...
Mafia is at 4 players currently.
If they lose another player they will be at 3.

Mafia KP is Mafia #/2 Rounded Down with a minimum of 1.

4/2 rounded down is 2.
3/2 rounded down is 1.
So if one more scum dies they will lose a KP.


isn't that even more reason to lynch chez rather than lynching for weird abstract reasons like "information"

I will vote to lynch Chez as deadline approaches unless I become more confident in scum elsewhere. Hassybaby literally hasn't posted since day 1 and that is unacceptable.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 02 2013 02:49 GMT
#2752
On March 02 2013 11:48 geript wrote:
I don't think [Chezinu]'s scum.

Under the circumstances you're going to have to explain that one. Thoroughly.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 02 2013 03:25 GMT
#2759
On March 02 2013 12:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 10:11 layabout wrote:
Is it time to talk about this yet?
On March 02 2013 06:36 geript wrote:
## Unvote
#vote WoS


Nothing to talk about because we're gonna lynch geript day 3

Why? Because he thinks you're scum?
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 02 2013 07:06 GMT
#2820
On March 02 2013 15:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'm kind of tired and actually not completely sold on Chezinu, I can't imagine an invested townie would play the way he is playing but what a game we're having. Toadesstern gave up on the game like 2 hours into the day because I accused him and voted for himself, it's really bumming me out. I can't help myself when there is a setup issue like this I'll second-guess myself in circles over and over and over again like a dog chasing it's own tail. Still can't figure why he'd accuse me considering I'm the only vocal townie to actually defend him in any meaningful way. I'd rather lynch Geript for today personally because I have clearer thoughts about that.

Chezinu's attitude towards this game baffles me as well - makes no sense from town Chezinu, but this isn't the quality of scum game I'd expect from Chezinu either. That being said, he rolled scum in his last game (LIX) and it was a seismic clusterf*** for scum. Maybe upon arriving in the thread, ending up as scum for the second game in a row, and seeing scumbuddy Prom about to be lynched he decided the game wasn't worth playing?

The only town Chezinu hypothesis I have is that he was excited to roll dayvig and didn't want to get NK'd/vigid/whatever so he tried to play slow... but I have much, much more difficulty buying that than the above.

Doesn't look like Hassybaby will come out to play so
##Unvote
##Vote: Chezinu

On March 02 2013 15:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The atmosphere in this game is abysmal

you ain't kidding
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 02 2013 07:19 GMT
#2825
On March 02 2013 16:17 Wade Fell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 16:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
what kind of townie figures the best course of action is to martyr himself and ask snide questions while completely avoiding every relevant point his accuser makes


the kind of townie who is likely the scumbuddy of chez

And you wonder why geript is martyring himself and asking snide questions.
Whether he's town or scum the reason he's behaving like this is you two...
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 02 2013 22:37 GMT
#2940
On March 03 2013 06:09 layabout wrote:
I don't need towncred, there are only 3 ppl in the game that might look townier than me.

lolwat
towny is not what I think when I look at you
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 02 2013 22:46 GMT
#2944
If Chezinu's scum I imagine he shot Milkman because he had some inkling that he'd flip third party.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 02 2013 22:57 GMT
#2950
On March 03 2013 07:51 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 07:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Anyway isn't looking for mafia irc cheating

no it isn't, it's a bit against the spirit of the game though
+ Show Spoiler +

It is common for mafia to use a medium outside of TL such as QuickTopics or IRC to communicate during the game. Please be mindful that other players may be more tech savvy than you and they may attempt impersonate members of your team or attempt to infiltrate your chat. You use these media at your own risk.


aqua i shouldn't be the one to point out why to you but you should think i am town.

What, because you buddied me?
On February 27 2013 01:43 layabout wrote:
I will give my thoughts on prom in a bit but right now i want aquanim as mayor/pardoner but if we are certain that the mayor will die then BH should go for it.
+ Show Spoiler +
since he wants to and since i don't want to play with him
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 02 2013 23:02 GMT
#2952
On March 03 2013 07:59 layabout wrote:
I don't want to play in this game anymore

Just because that defence "worked" for Toad doesn't mean it will work for you.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 03 2013 00:11 GMT
#2999
Now that I think about it...

Radio Announcer: You control the local radio station! each night you may select 1 player and communicate with them throughout the day. You will need stop communicating with this player after that day though, as your signal could be tracked.


On February 27 2013 15:14 Chezinu wrote:
After calibrating the receiver, I was able to pick up a modulated signal. The signal had to be separated into six components using Fourier transform and nitpicking the proper ranges to apply the inverse Fourier transform. A tedious demodulation process. Here is what I was able to put together: + Show Spoiler +
http://yourlisten.com/channel/content/16956205/Lost_Fragment_of_Isunizehc_2


Analysis: It seems to be audio of some creatures that I can't seem to decipher. At one point it sounds like rockets from a ship is going off in mid-air. Sound like that can only be recorded under an atmospheric planet, but where I am quite bewildered.

The detection of the unforeseen takes a toll on one when confide to the solitude of an ill powered ship. I sometimes wonder if they are mere hallucination. Fragments.. it is all I get out here... there must be something.... something that has been causing the interference...

breadcrumb in day 1


Chezinu: it had to be done
Chezinu: I had to shoot first

referencing events of day 2

lololol
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 03 2013 00:48 GMT
#3013
Any word on replacement/modkill for Chaos Bear and Hassybaby?
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 03 2013 05:21 GMT
#3046
On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Surely atleast some scum tried to switch to Geript. I doubt scum would get in the position for both candidates to be scum.

On March 03 2013 14:10 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Surely atleast some scum tried to switch to Geript. I doubt scum would get in the position for both candidates to be scum.

Agreed (somewhat)
geript (6): DoctorHelvetica, geript, Chezinu, jcarlsoniv, MilkSuckler, glurio,

What do you think about JCarlsoniv grush57?

Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Tho if geript is scum then we got this in the bag.

y?

You agree that the candidates are probably not both scum but you think Geript is scum? What gives?
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 03 2013 05:41 GMT
#3050
On March 03 2013 14:39 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 14:21 Aquanim wrote:
On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Surely atleast some scum tried to switch to Geript. I doubt scum would get in the position for both candidates to be scum.

On March 03 2013 14:10 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Surely atleast some scum tried to switch to Geript. I doubt scum would get in the position for both candidates to be scum.

Agreed (somewhat)
geript (6): DoctorHelvetica, geript, Chezinu, jcarlsoniv, MilkSuckler, glurio,

What do you think about JCarlsoniv grush57?

On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Tho if geript is scum then we got this in the bag.

y?

You agree that the candidates are probably not both scum but you think Geript is scum? What gives?

I asid, agreed (somehwat).. + I misread what he said, i thought he meant some candidates on GERIPT are scum (not that Geript and chezinu) are scum.

So whats your latest, I haven't heard from you in a long time.

Not nearly as convinced on Geript scum as many people seem to be. Besides that, unless you have specific questions I'd prefer to wait for the daypost.
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