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On March 01 2013 23:27 iamperfection wrote:
fuck you flood control i got more to say
Anyone not voting for toad has to explain to me how him not caring about this lynch at all is not the scummiest thing ever committed.
I find it more interesting that you only show up and start freaking the fuck out when just toad lays suspicion on you.
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On March 01 2013 23:48 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 23:27 iamperfection wrote:
fuck you flood control i got more to say
Anyone not voting for toad has to explain to me how him not caring about this lynch at all is not the scummiest thing ever committed. I'm not afk. I said I'm going to ignore everything that is said about me that is impossible to talk about, like all the bullshit about how I am supposed to be mafia bussing prom, because there's no way to defend or say anything against that kind of stuff because you're literally saying "toad looks too townish to be town, got to be a mafialploy".I'm still here reading and answering stuff that is worth being answered. Just like this one because you don't seem to understand what I said, or at least intended to say.
Ok, here, instead of asking a question directly about you:
Could you possibly explain why macho is scum?
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On March 01 2013 23:59 The Macho Man wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 23:56 jcarlsoniv wrote:On March 01 2013 23:48 Toadesstern wrote:On March 01 2013 23:27 iamperfection wrote:
fuck you flood control i got more to say
Anyone not voting for toad has to explain to me how him not caring about this lynch at all is not the scummiest thing ever committed. I'm not afk. I said I'm going to ignore everything that is said about me that is impossible to talk about, like all the bullshit about how I am supposed to be mafia bussing prom, because there's no way to defend or say anything against that kind of stuff because you're literally saying "toad looks too townish to be town, got to be a mafialploy".I'm still here reading and answering stuff that is worth being answered. Just like this one because you don't seem to understand what I said, or at least intended to say. Ok, here, instead of asking a question directly about you: Could you possibly explain why macho is scum? whats stopping you from chiming in with your own thoughts?
I'm sorry for asking him a question?
Before this, I was pretty null on you (macho), so I wanted to know Toad's thoughts. I'm bad at reading people on meta, and the only experience I've had with you was Themed game, where you seemed fairly scummy to me, but ended up town.
I don't understand why you're lashing out so hard.
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Doc:
I know you're dead set on lynching toad right now. But do you have any opinions on JJ's content (or lack thereof)?
At some point I think you said you may have been wrong about him. However, many people N1 listed him as potential scum, but no one has followed up on him.
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On March 02 2013 02:41 JungleJorge wrote:
I jailed toad. I normally wouldn't claim like this, but reading this game is annoying me. Chezinu is confirmed scum btw, we should be voting him. There is absolutely no way chez would shoot someone randomly like that as town, without even giving him a chance to claim. His filter has no previous mentioned of him. Chez was a lynch target for today, so it makes sense for him to use his power as mafia not to waste kp. Besides all these obvious things that make him mafia, his behavior is very different from his town games, where he trolls but actively gives out reads and is way more interactive with players. Here we notice posting in small bursts, only to keep appearances and not engaged in any issues town is discussing.
##Vote Chezinu
Speak of the devil...
The thing is, there wasn't any huge pressure on chez when he shot. He had suspicion cast on him, but it's not like he was about to die when he shot milkman.
Also, nobody counter claimed him. I agree with DrH that it's probably unlikely that scum has a dayvig and town does not.
I can't understand being in Chez's position and firing if he were scum.
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JJ, what ever happened to you being convinced that aquanim is scum?
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On March 02 2013 03:01 JungleJorge wrote:
His recent posting has shaken my read a bit. I still find the interactions between him and prom very weird, but it's mostly on prom's part. That post I quoted earlier is still a very huge red flag for me, but we can discuss him later. Now we have sure scum to kill.
Really? Cuz I'm certainly still not convinced that Chez is red blooded.
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On March 02 2013 03:04 JungleJorge wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 02:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:On March 02 2013 02:41 JungleJorge wrote:
I jailed toad. I normally wouldn't claim like this, but reading this game is annoying me. Chezinu is confirmed scum btw, we should be voting him. There is absolutely no way chez would shoot someone randomly like that as town, without even giving him a chance to claim. His filter has no previous mentioned of him. Chez was a lynch target for today, so it makes sense for him to use his power as mafia not to waste kp. Besides all these obvious things that make him mafia, his behavior is very different from his town games, where he trolls but actively gives out reads and is way more interactive with players. Here we notice posting in small bursts, only to keep appearances and not engaged in any issues town is discussing.
##Vote Chezinu Speak of the devil... The thing is, there wasn't any huge pressure on chez when he shot. He had suspicion cast on him, but it's not like he was about to die when he shot milkman. Also, nobody counter claimed him. I agree with DrH that it's probably unlikely that scum has a dayvig and town does not. I can't understand being in Chez's position and firing if he were scum. That's the dumbest assumption I've read. Why on earth it's unlikely that only scum has a dayvig? And Chezinu had no pressure on him? If you read the thread prior to the shot you'll see plenty of people arguing for a chez lynch.
Arguing for a lynch on chez is FAR different than him being on the lynch block. People have made arguments for me being scum, but I was never really pressured either because I never felt like I was about to die.
Chez isn't some newbie with cold-feet. I'd bet money that he didn't fire because he was shaking in his boots, scared of being lynched.
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On March 02 2013 03:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
EBWOP: doesnt' mean his shot made sense from a town POV. Layabout's current and earlier arguments summarize that.
But it doesn't make sense from a scum perspective either.
If chez was scum, he knows milkman is town, and that shooting him would raise suspicion. Shooting first as a scum day vig is risky because of counter claiming (which no one did).
Also, doesn't scum like 3rd party roles? They make more confusion for town, and have higher chances of hitting town. So if chez thought milkman was bartender, wouldn't that be something a scum chez would want to keep around?
And Gg toad
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On March 02 2013 03:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
I meant to post this earlier since people were asking, but I suppose now is an appropriate time as well, make of it what you will.
I am really shocked at the amount of emotional investment people seem to put into mafia. This was one of the main reasons I assumed both VE and Toad couldn't both be town since they were constantly at each other's throats and VE was getting so unbelievably pissed off...I basically assumed that it was all some sort of scum charade since it's just forum posting.
Toad's emotional martrydom, resorting to (almost?) cheating to clear his name and flip really proved me wrong...I really am new to the mafia world.
That's like saying we don't get emotionally invested in LoL 
Also, I realize my defense is basically "it doesn't make sense", but I'm just not convinced.
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On March 02 2013 08:38 Chezinu wrote:
So, when I get pardoned we need to make sure to have a second suspect ready to get lynched. Ignore the doctor. He is going to use his mafia powers to make you think that I am mafia. Then he will lynch another townie. Next day lynch me. Until finally you guys decide to lynch him. Trust in Wade guys, except for his hatred for me getting him lynch cause he broke the Chezinu rule. Btw, thanks for the rule!
We still have like 24 hours left
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Morning gents.
I'm still vehemently against a Chez lynch. I'm the only one who has defended against it, and I'm sticking to my guns. I don't think he will flip red.
I'm willing to reconsider JJ for now. I agree that it would be surprising for him to claim roleblocker as scum, however certainly not impossible. I'm fine with him surviving and reevaluating after night phase (also, it's clear that all of you want Chez dead).
Geript, on the other hand, is looking absolutely terrible. Martyring, being generally useless, and lashing out. I would MUCH prefer seeing him die before you guys lynch Chez. There has been a lot of discussion in the last few pages about geript, and I really think he should die today.
##unvote
##vote Geript
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On March 03 2013 02:35 MilkSuckler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 02:15 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I'm still vehemently against a Chez lynch. I'm the only one who has defended against it, and I'm sticking to my guns. I don't think he will flip red. Lets chat about this a bit more Jcarl.I noticed in your filter the prime reason for defending Chez, is you can't see reason for him to have fired (primarily because you dont think he would have been scared of Wade Fells case/push to rush the shot) This is all WIFOM though? And in my opinion the (valid) case on Chez was before the shot was fired anyways, the case is built on meta, and activity in game. You seem to agree: Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 11:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
@Wade Fell: Your case is reasonable. However, it is still early in the day, and I want to hear from JJ. Do you believe the day-vig shot WIFOM is strong enough to throw the original meta case/argument out the window?
I think the WIFOM, included with a bandwagon that is only being resisted by me, is strong enough to keep my vote off of him.
I realize it's more than likely that he's going to get lynched, but I will take no part in it.
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On March 03 2013 06:45 Wade Fell wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 02:15 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Morning gents.
I'm still vehemently against a Chez lynch. I'm the only one who has defended against it, and I'm sticking to my guns. I don't think he will flip red.
I'm willing to reconsider JJ for now. I agree that it would be surprising for him to claim roleblocker as scum, however certainly not impossible. I'm fine with him surviving and reevaluating after night phase (also, it's clear that all of you want Chez dead).
Geript, on the other hand, is looking absolutely terrible. Martyring, being generally useless, and lashing out. I would MUCH prefer seeing him die before you guys lynch Chez. There has been a lot of discussion in the last few pages about geript, and I really think he should die today.
##unvote
##vote Geript hellow scum #3
Eh, cute, but sorry to disappoint you. BH scumhunter extraordinaire having some accuracy issues this game.
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On March 03 2013 07:00 Wade Fell wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 06:58 jcarlsoniv wrote:On March 03 2013 06:45 Wade Fell wrote:On March 03 2013 02:15 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Morning gents.
I'm still vehemently against a Chez lynch. I'm the only one who has defended against it, and I'm sticking to my guns. I don't think he will flip red.
I'm willing to reconsider JJ for now. I agree that it would be surprising for him to claim roleblocker as scum, however certainly not impossible. I'm fine with him surviving and reevaluating after night phase (also, it's clear that all of you want Chez dead).
Geript, on the other hand, is looking absolutely terrible. Martyring, being generally useless, and lashing out. I would MUCH prefer seeing him die before you guys lynch Chez. There has been a lot of discussion in the last few pages about geript, and I really think he should die today.
##unvote
##vote Geript hellow scum #3 Eh, cute, but sorry to disappoint you. BH scumhunter extraordinaire having some accuracy issues this game. I was right about prom, I'm about to be proven right about Chez, and I will be highly correct about all the scum left in the game. Quiver, scum! quiver in fear! quiver like arrows!
In that case, I'm looking forward to you being sorely disappointed.
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On March 03 2013 07:46 Aquanim wrote:
If Chezinu's scum I imagine he shot Milkman because he had some inkling that he'd flip third party.
I was under the impression that scum team likes 3rd party.
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On March 03 2013 08:28 layabout wrote:
screw it let's do this
SWITCH!
##vote geript
So early? I was expecting another 15 minutes before people started switching.
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On March 03 2013 08:33 Wade Fell wrote:
I don't care if someone else masoned Chezinu, what matters is that chezinu is scum. Someone else's poor choice of mason partner is not my problem.
My god, a big part of me really wants to be right about Chez just so you can shut your friggin mouth
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Oh, wow. Well color me surprised.
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On March 03 2013 09:02 MilkSuckler wrote:
He's saying jcarl is the mason...wtf lol
? How do you get that?
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