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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 28 2013 18:44 GMT
#2059
if ve is scum i will eat my hat
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 01:32 GMT
#2297
you rascals now have my full attention.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 01:39 GMT
#2304
why would vivax fake claim he in my opinion he was far from being a leading lynch candidate.

The simpler and right explanation is that he is town that got role-blocked by someone.
reported the role block
and is a vig.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 01:40 GMT
#2306
plus i had already come to the conclusion that vivax was town from his posting from the middle of day 1
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 01:48 GMT
#2316
On March 01 2013 10:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
this discussion is pointless until vivax can explain himself

can we talk about what I just posted on Toadesstern or maybe anyone has an alternative case they want to push? I have a bit more to add but I'm gonna run to the store real quick

i dont really find it that scummy at all. Sounds like something i would do as town if i thought i had caught scum early on touting my awesomeness and mocking all the plebs. i think toad shouldn't be the top concern espically when we have hasy doing absolutely nothing.

Thats where my vote is going
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 02:36 GMT
#2361

for those of you not voting hassy i have a big question for you.


Why not?


On February 27 2013 12:08 Hassybaby wrote:
Ok, it's 3am here and I have to leave for the airport in half an hour, so I'll read up again in about 10 hours

Remember when he posted this after not posting for an entire hour trying to make it sound like he is actually figuring stuff out when he is actually not.

he is scum

lets kill him
and for those waiting for it... yes it is the wagon of justice.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 02:47 GMT
#2380
seems like a pretty bad shot why not shoot hassy?
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 05:00 GMT
#2499
On March 01 2013 13:17 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 13:15 MilkSuckler wrote:
Im over this.. im starting to think grush was just trolling

Geript. i will have a look through what you wrote later on.. im not sure why your pushing the point though.. Toad has enough evidence on him to justify a consolidated vote

So i am not sure what you are trying to prove.

With the milkman gone.... Got milk?

Also, sorry for crying over the split milk...

actually... the jokes aren't helping how I feel...

are you going to talk about anything else or are literally just going to cry over spilt milk?
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 05:35 GMT
#2511
just by answering that question it would be an answer as to whether it is fake or not
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 05:41 GMT
#2513
On March 01 2013 14:22 MilkSuckler wrote:
yay mod knows now

hopefulyl 5-10min

well if this is true then im gonna guess it was fake.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 05:46 GMT
#2522
On March 01 2013 14:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I don't think a newbie scum would make that post. He would just have made his post on OO if it was indeed real, I'm sure it would be worked on and approved in the scum qt. WIFOM but that's my 2 cents.

the to bad to be scum argument? The post effectively achieves nothing and it does not look like scum hunting.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 05:46 GMT
#2524
On March 01 2013 14:44 TestSubject893 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 14:41 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 01 2013 14:34 TestSubject893 wrote:
Ok, so I rewrote this post like 5 times and changed my mind back and forth, and at the end of it all I ended up not coming up with as great of thoughts as I had originally thought I had when it was all coming togther.

I'll start with the basics I suppose. I agree with DrH on Toad. He's the top of the list for me. From there I feel like one of either Aqua or OO is scum. I was gonna write up some reasons on why its OO, but when I was doing that I kind of talked myself into thinking that its Aqua. After that grush is looking suspicious to me, but he's in that category of players where everyone talks about their crazy meta and how it needs to be taken into account and I'm not currently taking it into account, so take that for what its worth.

The bulk of my thoughts were gonna be about how when I read Chez asking the questions about the 3rd parties and claiming he didn't know how to add, I thought for sure he was a 3rd party just putting on a show. Because immediately after that WF jumped on him as scum I thought that he has the same read as me and was mafia trying to get the 3rd party lynched. This all still added up even after Chez shot if he is town because mafia wouldn't know for sure he wasn't 3rd party in the time in between.

When I was writing it all up I changed my mind on it. WF just isn't scummy looking enough to me outside of that, so I ended up scrapping it. It is something that really jumped out at me though, so if WF becomes the center of attention later, its something we could relook at.

... What are you trying to achieve with this..

you know, someone (I think it was aqua) called you scum.

posts like that, are starting to make me think he was right

is there proper analysis in this.. or even a conclusion?

Waste of a read, as far as I am concerned.. (perhaps Im just pissed at waiting almost 2 hrs for this day vig claim)


I promised to post some thoughts and this is the explanation of why I'm not doing that. Its not helpful, I agree.

oh well if he is gonna be that upfront with it that its maybe he is more likely to be misguided town.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 05:50 GMT
#2528
well its way past my bed time so im just gonna conclude that what dr.h said was right in that he just meant the other day vig should shoot chez
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 14:16 GMT
#2575
On March 01 2013 20:22 Toadesstern wrote:
oh and actually just a little explaining, I'm still reading but only answering if I have to because it's not really worth it. Here are my thoughts I had when talking with someone outside of the game (you're allowed to talk & post as long as the guy is not in the game, right?^^):

+ Show Spoiler +
[27.02.2013 12:58:52] Erik: yamato keeps telling me I'm mafia because I wasn't agressive enough and stopped being agressive after the first 2 or 3 hour (duh, after the first 2 hours it's 4 am german time...)
[27.02.2013 12:59:42] Erik: how can I be more agressive than calling for a dayvig 2 hours into the game betting VE's left ball on the guy being mafia..
[27.02.2013 13:00:17] Erik: it's like there's this aura of retardation when people who aren't called Syllo, Sand or Marv are dealing with me
[27.02.2013 13:04:06] Erik: the worst part really is people telling me I'm mafia because of "insert Town-trait here"... that's just so annoying
[27.02.2013 13:04:31] Erik: like the biggest difference in meta imo is that when I'm town I don't mind about emotions at all, which leads to the hypno-toad kind of thing
[27.02.2013 13:04:44] Erik: as mafia I'm controlling that stuff because I have to to not look odd
[27.02.2013 13:04:53] Erik: and I'm getting told I'm mafia because of that..
[27.02.2013 13:05:26] XXX: yeah
[27.02.2013 13:05:37] XXX: and you can't defend yourself with it either which is also very annoying


That's pretty much the reason I was mad earlier. I've got this bullshit 3 times in a row now. I've been told I'm mafia last game because "Toad posts a lot of walls of text! He isn't doing that when he rolls town! LYNCH HIM". This time it's not being agressive enough early on while it's 2 am or because "lynch was too easy, let's lynch Toad", or because of "Toad badding his own back, must be mafia!" when everyone knows that I regulary do that as town when I'm mad to rub it into peoples faces and I don't do that as mafia. Check Mafia L for example... I told people Palmar is town d1, told people Sandro is mafia d1, people lynched Palmar and later on Sandro and EVERYONE was mad at me because "how does Toad know Palmar is town when everyone thought he's mafia and how did you know Sandro was mafia so early on?" and everyone in the game tried to lynch me for that although it isn't even a mafiatrait in the slightest.
Okay back to this game: VE basicly said I'm mafia because I'm so egocentrical and focused about myself which again, is a towntrait for me and when confronted with it answered "duh, you know about it. Meta you know about yourself isn't worth a damn". No shit sherlock, knowledge about my own meta and the assumption that I can play and confuse you with that makes it a null though if you really think so and not a mafiatrait.

So if you want me to answer something give me something that I can answer. I'm not going to explain why something that is a towntrait really is a towntrait this game as well and not some fancy mafiaploy from me because there's no possible way to do that. When you want to lynch me because "well Toad looks really good with the d1 lynch but he looks too good! Must have been a bus! LYNCH HIM" there's nothing I can do about it. That's why I told Greymist I'm going to stop being mad about people being bad and will just ignore them from now on (you probably know the timing of that one). I'm still sticking to that promise.

See you in 48hours.

you claiming scum?

1.thats not an explanation at all
2. it looks like you dont give a shit about this lynch if your gonna afk for 48 hours
3. thats is scummy as fuck

i will be here as always you could at leat have tried to make a case toad you could of but are you afraid that my attention is not divided my townieness will start to burn like it always does.

your checking out makes no sense.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 14:24 GMT
#2577
actually you know what toad i dont need anything else from you if you really are going to go afk for 48 hours its is a scum claim in my eyes.

If you were town i would expect you to you know try to advocate me getting killed up untill the deadline pushing your reads and whatnot commenting on the game. There is no explanation for this other than that you are scum

vote toad
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 14:37 GMT
#2580
On March 01 2013 23:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 23:27 iamperfection wrote:
fuck you flood control i got more to say

Anyone not voting for toad has to explain to me how him not caring about this lynch at all is not the scummiest thing ever committed.


I find it more interesting that you only show up and start freaking the fuck out when just toad lays suspicion on you.

he has been doing it the whole game and i didnt care because it was justified i didnt have my full attention on this game so i did appear scummy.

But this action by him is super scummy if he advocated for my lynch tried to push it as a read i would be inclined to think he is town. But since he openly claimed he does not give a shit about this lynch it is extremely likely he is scum.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 14:43 GMT
#2581
and if i have to spell it out for you why not caring about the lynch is super scummy it is because we want to lynch scum. That is why we are interested in the lynch and want to try and kill people because we hunt scum. Toad says he does not care about my alignment and just wants me dead no if's and or buts just wants to afk so he does not have to contribute what so ever.

Toad does not care about this lynch
toad is scum.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 14:51 GMT
#2583
On March 01 2013 23:48 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 23:27 iamperfection wrote:
fuck you flood control i got more to say

Anyone not voting for toad has to explain to me how him not caring about this lynch at all is not the scummiest thing ever committed.

I'm not afk. I said I'm going to ignore everything that is said about me that is impossible to talk about, like all the bullshit about how I am supposed to be mafia bussing prom, because there's no way to defend or say anything against that kind of stuff because you're literally saying "toad looks too townish to be town, got to be a mafialploy".

I'm still here reading and answering stuff that is worth being answered. Just like this one because you don't seem to understand what I said, or at least intended to say.

um excuse me the way you defend yourself is to hunt scum not being all whiny that people arent giving you enough town cred.

and you SHOULD know that.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 14:53 GMT
#2586
On March 01 2013 23:51 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 23:16 The Macho Man wrote:
On March 01 2013 20:22 Toadesstern wrote:
oh and actually just a little explaining, I'm still reading but only answering if I have to because it's not really worth it. Here are my thoughts I had when talking with someone outside of the game (you're allowed to talk & post as long as the guy is not in the game, right?^^):

+ Show Spoiler +
[27.02.2013 12:58:52] Erik: yamato keeps telling me I'm mafia because I wasn't agressive enough and stopped being agressive after the first 2 or 3 hour (duh, after the first 2 hours it's 4 am german time...)
[27.02.2013 12:59:42] Erik: how can I be more agressive than calling for a dayvig 2 hours into the game betting VE's left ball on the guy being mafia..
[27.02.2013 13:00:17] Erik: it's like there's this aura of retardation when people who aren't called Syllo, Sand or Marv are dealing with me
[27.02.2013 13:04:06] Erik: the worst part really is people telling me I'm mafia because of "insert Town-trait here"... that's just so annoying
[27.02.2013 13:04:31] Erik: like the biggest difference in meta imo is that when I'm town I don't mind about emotions at all, which leads to the hypno-toad kind of thing
[27.02.2013 13:04:44] Erik: as mafia I'm controlling that stuff because I have to to not look odd
[27.02.2013 13:04:53] Erik: and I'm getting told I'm mafia because of that..
[27.02.2013 13:05:26] XXX: yeah
[27.02.2013 13:05:37] XXX: and you can't defend yourself with it either which is also very annoying


That's pretty much the reason I was mad earlier. I've got this bullshit 3 times in a row now. I've been told I'm mafia last game because "Toad posts a lot of walls of text! He isn't doing that when he rolls town! LYNCH HIM". This time it's not being agressive enough early on while it's 2 am or because "lynch was too easy, let's lynch Toad", or because of "Toad badding his own back, must be mafia!" when everyone knows that I regulary do that as town when I'm mad to rub it into peoples faces and I don't do that as mafia. Check Mafia L for example... I told people Palmar is town d1, told people Sandro is mafia d1, people lynched Palmar and later on Sandro and EVERYONE was mad at me because "how does Toad know Palmar is town when everyone thought he's mafia and how did you know Sandro was mafia so early on?" and everyone in the game tried to lynch me for that although it isn't even a mafiatrait in the slightest.
Okay back to this game: VE basicly said I'm mafia because I'm so egocentrical and focused about myself which again, is a towntrait for me and when confronted with it answered "duh, you know about it. Meta you know about yourself isn't worth a damn". No shit sherlock, knowledge about my own meta and the assumption that I can play and confuse you with that makes it a null though if you really think so and not a mafiatrait.

So if you want me to answer something give me something that I can answer. I'm not going to explain why something that is a towntrait really is a towntrait this game as well and not some fancy mafiaploy from me because there's no possible way to do that. When you want to lynch me because "well Toad looks really good with the d1 lynch but he looks too good! Must have been a bus! LYNCH HIM" there's nothing I can do about it. That's why I told Greymist I'm going to stop being mad about people being bad and will just ignore them from now on (you probably know the timing of that one). I'm still sticking to that promise.

See you in 48hours.

you claiming scum?

1.thats not an explanation at all
2. it looks like you dont give a shit about this lynch if your gonna afk for 48 hours
3. thats is scummy as fuck

i will be here as always you could at leat have tried to make a case toad you could of but are you afraid that my attention is not divided my townieness will start to burn like it always does.

your checking out makes no sense.


okay just once as an example what I'm talking about:

1) exactly, because there's nothing to explain. Ask me what you want me to explain and I'll do it. Stop telling me to answer stuff like "Toads meta is nothing like it was in furity but I don't like it, so lynch him" because I can't explain or defend against something like that if there's no point to it to begin with.
2) That's actually true but I'm not afking for 48hours.
3) What I said about 1. Tell me what you consider scummy. I can't answer like that. I'm getting this crap from the very beginning of this game up until now and people are like "woah toad is totally ignoring it!"...

if you are going to be here and going to help find scum then i dont think your scummy at all.

But when someone says lynch this guy and says they are going to afk then yes i would think that is a scum claim
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 14:57 GMT
#2589
On March 01 2013 23:55 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 23:53 The Macho Man wrote:
On March 01 2013 23:51 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 01 2013 23:16 The Macho Man wrote:
On March 01 2013 20:22 Toadesstern wrote:
oh and actually just a little explaining, I'm still reading but only answering if I have to because it's not really worth it. Here are my thoughts I had when talking with someone outside of the game (you're allowed to talk & post as long as the guy is not in the game, right?^^):

+ Show Spoiler +
[27.02.2013 12:58:52] Erik: yamato keeps telling me I'm mafia because I wasn't agressive enough and stopped being agressive after the first 2 or 3 hour (duh, after the first 2 hours it's 4 am german time...)
[27.02.2013 12:59:42] Erik: how can I be more agressive than calling for a dayvig 2 hours into the game betting VE's left ball on the guy being mafia..
[27.02.2013 13:00:17] Erik: it's like there's this aura of retardation when people who aren't called Syllo, Sand or Marv are dealing with me
[27.02.2013 13:04:06] Erik: the worst part really is people telling me I'm mafia because of "insert Town-trait here"... that's just so annoying
[27.02.2013 13:04:31] Erik: like the biggest difference in meta imo is that when I'm town I don't mind about emotions at all, which leads to the hypno-toad kind of thing
[27.02.2013 13:04:44] Erik: as mafia I'm controlling that stuff because I have to to not look odd
[27.02.2013 13:04:53] Erik: and I'm getting told I'm mafia because of that..
[27.02.2013 13:05:26] XXX: yeah
[27.02.2013 13:05:37] XXX: and you can't defend yourself with it either which is also very annoying


That's pretty much the reason I was mad earlier. I've got this bullshit 3 times in a row now. I've been told I'm mafia last game because "Toad posts a lot of walls of text! He isn't doing that when he rolls town! LYNCH HIM". This time it's not being agressive enough early on while it's 2 am or because "lynch was too easy, let's lynch Toad", or because of "Toad badding his own back, must be mafia!" when everyone knows that I regulary do that as town when I'm mad to rub it into peoples faces and I don't do that as mafia. Check Mafia L for example... I told people Palmar is town d1, told people Sandro is mafia d1, people lynched Palmar and later on Sandro and EVERYONE was mad at me because "how does Toad know Palmar is town when everyone thought he's mafia and how did you know Sandro was mafia so early on?" and everyone in the game tried to lynch me for that although it isn't even a mafiatrait in the slightest.
Okay back to this game: VE basicly said I'm mafia because I'm so egocentrical and focused about myself which again, is a towntrait for me and when confronted with it answered "duh, you know about it. Meta you know about yourself isn't worth a damn". No shit sherlock, knowledge about my own meta and the assumption that I can play and confuse you with that makes it a null though if you really think so and not a mafiatrait.

So if you want me to answer something give me something that I can answer. I'm not going to explain why something that is a towntrait really is a towntrait this game as well and not some fancy mafiaploy from me because there's no possible way to do that. When you want to lynch me because "well Toad looks really good with the d1 lynch but he looks too good! Must have been a bus! LYNCH HIM" there's nothing I can do about it. That's why I told Greymist I'm going to stop being mad about people being bad and will just ignore them from now on (you probably know the timing of that one). I'm still sticking to that promise.

See you in 48hours.

you claiming scum?

1.thats not an explanation at all
2. it looks like you dont give a shit about this lynch if your gonna afk for 48 hours
3. thats is scummy as fuck

i will be here as always you could at leat have tried to make a case toad you could of but are you afraid that my attention is not divided my townieness will start to burn like it always does.

your checking out makes no sense.


okay just once as an example what I'm talking about:

1) exactly, because there's nothing to explain. Ask me what you want me to explain and I'll do it. Stop telling me to answer stuff like "Toads meta is nothing like it was in furity but I don't like it, so lynch him" because I can't explain or defend against something like that if there's no point to it to begin with.
2) That's actually true but I'm not afking for 48hours.
3) What I said about 1. Tell me what you consider scummy. I can't answer like that. I'm getting this crap from the very beginning of this game up until now and people are like "woah toad is totally ignoring it!"...

if you are going to be here and going to help find scum then i dont think your scummy at all.

But when someone says lynch this guy and says they are going to afk then yes i would think that is a scum claim


what part of: "You're mafia and I figured out prom 2 hours into d1 bitches" don't you understand?

so you dont think there is any chance that im town. You dont think me playing two games at once had something to do with my lower activity. You dont think my play has changed at all with me being dead in my other game.

does it look like im interested in the game now?
does it look like im trying to figure things out?
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