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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 26 2013 01:19 GMT
#481
On February 26 2013 10:18 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 10:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:13 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:07 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Prom that's closer to what I'm looking for. Why do you prefer to lynch WoS over Vivax?


Because I don't care to lynch Vivax. I know I'm the only guy on the forum who thinks this but Vivax is a good player and useful to town when town. Also, as Marv showed in fruity, he is catchable as scum on meta alone.

Tl:dr I have a scum read on WoS and not on Vivax.

On February 26 2013 09:57 Promethelax wrote:
Okay, so RNG didn't create the discussion I wanted. Screw you guys.

On February 26 2013 09:28 Wade Fell wrote:
My new platform is killing Layabout

Read his posts

hes scum


Explain.

For the moment my top scum read is WoS, he responded to gerpit's candidacy all wrong, obviously assuming gerpit is town but statistically...

On February 26 2013 09:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:20 geript wrote:
It looks to me that the best person for mayor is someone who is willing to:
A. put in the time to read the thread
B. both make and evaluate other's cases
C. is unlikely to be an early target for NK
In this regard I would nominate myself as I am more likely to devote more time to reading (both filters and filter in the context of the thread as a whole) than anyone else. Additionally, I am relatively unknown which removes untoward bias for or against me due to previous games as well as making me a more impartial arbiter as it regards established players.

My lynch platform is:
Scum read > hard/impossible to read > null read > town read

## vote geript

Except for the fact that you were killed N1 last game for the above reasons, by someone who is very likely smurfing in this game.


He focuses on the likelihood of a night kill on gerpit, he is too interested in night actions and not in the candidacy or the actual ideas which gerpit proposes. I'm not a fan of this post or WoS's mentality.

Vote me, screw random lynch. I'll lynch WoS.

On February 26 2013 09:23 Vivax wrote:
Geript, what makes you unlikely for NK if you fulfil A + B properly?

lol


Explain plz. Vivax is equally guilty of what you're accusing WoS of.


Because they are different people. I've never had the ability to read him based on behaviour, only meta.


And you're able to read WoS based on behavior I guess? What kind of games have you played with our undulating friend?


I can't read him on meta because I haven't played with him. Which is why I read him on behaviour instead. You were a scum coach in his one townie game. Do you have any insight you wanna share?


I was mostly uninvolved in that game, so no. I think he lurked hard D1?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
February 26 2013 01:19 GMT
#482
On February 26 2013 10:10 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 10:07 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:03 Aquanim wrote:
Since WoS has disappeared into the shadows I'll ask someone else.
@Milksuckler, any posts that you think are particularly sketchy so far?

Geript entrance has been quite weak.

Everything in his first post has been easy-to-say stances indicative of no alignment.

The follow-up (newbie) reasoning is quite meek and weak to b00t - making me want to ignore his posts (and pot shots)

This early into Day1 is a crafty way to blend in. Me no like-y.


You think that running for mayor is a way to blend in? And what exactly about his reasoning is weak? Walk me through it.

Sure: Firstly, I didnt read it as a genuine attempt to run for mayor. When you add the lack of campaign follow-up since, it becomes obvious the attempt was half-hearted and actually acts to discredit him - thus allowing him to blend in by being ignored.

Secondly, his reasons for being mayor are weak at best. Even though the mayor has been nerfed this game, the role still requires more criteria than: put time into the thread; or avoid being a N1 kill.

Thirdly, he starts playing the newbie card: again providing an avenue to be ignored by the masses.
=============
I wouldn't go so far so say the above demarcates him as scum. Just the behaviour is sketchy and I am watching him closely. Will reevaluate as I have more.


geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 01:19 GMT
#483
@VE your tone is similar to that which I saw on the obs thread. The hamster is on the wheel and you emotion base is consistent.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 26 2013 01:19 GMT
#484
Yeah, I'm not liking Promethelax's reasoning here either. WoS talking about night kills in response to a post that specifically discusses the likelihood of certain players getting night killed is not really indicative of anything at all. If we want to start pointing fingers at people for talking about night actions (which I think in this case would be the wrong move), we need to start by blaming geript for bringing it up.

I don't know who I'm voting for for mayor yet, but right now Prom is near the bottom of the list for me.
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 01:20 GMT
#485
On February 26 2013 10:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 10:17 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:13 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:07 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Prom that's closer to what I'm looking for. Why do you prefer to lynch WoS over Vivax?


Because I don't care to lynch Vivax. I know I'm the only guy on the forum who thinks this but Vivax is a good player and useful to town when town. Also, as Marv showed in fruity, he is catchable as scum on meta alone.

Tl:dr I have a scum read on WoS and not on Vivax.

On February 26 2013 09:57 Promethelax wrote:
Okay, so RNG didn't create the discussion I wanted. Screw you guys.

On February 26 2013 09:28 Wade Fell wrote:
My new platform is killing Layabout

Read his posts

hes scum


Explain.

For the moment my top scum read is WoS, he responded to gerpit's candidacy all wrong, obviously assuming gerpit is town but statistically...

On February 26 2013 09:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:20 geript wrote:
It looks to me that the best person for mayor is someone who is willing to:
A. put in the time to read the thread
B. both make and evaluate other's cases
C. is unlikely to be an early target for NK
In this regard I would nominate myself as I am more likely to devote more time to reading (both filters and filter in the context of the thread as a whole) than anyone else. Additionally, I am relatively unknown which removes untoward bias for or against me due to previous games as well as making me a more impartial arbiter as it regards established players.

My lynch platform is:
Scum read > hard/impossible to read > null read > town read

## vote geript

Except for the fact that you were killed N1 last game for the above reasons, by someone who is very likely smurfing in this game.


He focuses on the likelihood of a night kill on gerpit, he is too interested in night actions and not in the candidacy or the actual ideas which gerpit proposes. I'm not a fan of this post or WoS's mentality.

Vote me, screw random lynch. I'll lynch WoS.

On February 26 2013 09:23 Vivax wrote:
Geript, what makes you unlikely for NK if you fulfil A + B properly?

lol


Explain plz. Vivax is equally guilty of what you're accusing WoS of.


Because they are different people. I've never had the ability to read him based on behaviour, only meta.


And you're able to read WoS based on behavior I guess? What kind of games have you played with our undulating friend?

its like the most important person in the world is standing here and you two have a conversation going on. Im only the greatest of all time and you people are having a conversation.

Allow me to interrupt me the macho man randy savage.


Was there a point to this? At all?

Mr. Sarcasm the macho man is not happy with your decision no.

The macho man should not be ignored.
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 26 2013 01:20 GMT
#486
On February 26 2013 10:18 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 10:11 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:03 Aquanim wrote:
Since WoS has disappeared into the shadows I'll ask someone else.
@Milksuckler, any posts that you think are particularly sketchy so far?


How about you aqua. Do you have ay thoughts? All I've heard from you is blends questions to weak/new players.

Not liking ObviousOne so far.

Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Top scum read probably geript at the very moment. His candidacy for mayor seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Guaranteed mislynch from him as either alignment.

Terrible, terrible reasoning for this read.

Show nested quote +

I'm living in the moment here. I don't make anything of the WF JJ shenanigans yet. Got asked a question, gave an answer. Ask me about geript again in 23 hours, okay? Promise?

And he can't justify it at all.

Show nested quote +

I don't do reads on the fly. You want an actual read from me, you'll need more than 45 minutes of a handful of players talking. Who's to say any mafia are even participating yet?

He gives a read and then says this?


Garbage in, garbage out.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 26 2013 01:21 GMT
#487
On February 26 2013 10:17 Toadesstern wrote:
prom could you respond to what I (and VE in response) said over here:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 10:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:04 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:57 Promethelax wrote:
Okay, so RNG didn't create the discussion I wanted. Screw you guys.

On February 26 2013 09:28 Wade Fell wrote:
My new platform is killing Layabout

Read his posts

hes scum


Explain.

For the moment my top scum read is WoS, he responded to gerpit's candidacy all wrong, obviously assuming gerpit is town but statistically...

On February 26 2013 09:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:20 geript wrote:
It looks to me that the best person for mayor is someone who is willing to:
A. put in the time to read the thread
B. both make and evaluate other's cases
C. is unlikely to be an early target for NK
In this regard I would nominate myself as I am more likely to devote more time to reading (both filters and filter in the context of the thread as a whole) than anyone else. Additionally, I am relatively unknown which removes untoward bias for or against me due to previous games as well as making me a more impartial arbiter as it regards established players.

My lynch platform is:
Scum read > hard/impossible to read > null read > town read

## vote geript

Except for the fact that you were killed N1 last game for the above reasons, by someone who is very likely smurfing in this game.


He focuses on the likelihood of a night kill on gerpit, he is too interested in night actions and not in the candidacy or the actual ideas which gerpit proposes. I'm not a fan of this post or WoS's mentality.

Vote me, screw random lynch. I'll lynch WoS.

are you mad that it didn't work or that you didn't get more credit for it?
Because it sure sounds like that. We had some discussion about the rnd you suggested, we had some discussion about what I suggested. I most definitely wouldn't phrase it the way your are


This is something I noticed too. It sparked discussion - I'm left wondering what kind of discussion he thought RNG was supposed to generate if it didn't generate the kind he wanted.

because again, the way you phrased that sounds awfully odd and I'm thinking of multiple explanations. None of them includes something you with a townie-mindset.


Because I wanted it to gain some real traction. I had an idea about actually getting close and withdrawing my nomination since if scum was up for lynch they'd be pushing me as mayor where if there was a townie up for lynch they'd be pushing against me. It's a plan that only works if I get support on it. That was the discussion I wanted to spark.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 26 2013 01:21 GMT
#488
On February 26 2013 10:10 The Macho Man wrote:
wow the mayor will be a lucky person yeah a lucky person some where out there will be a lucky person winning a great power a lucky lucky lucky person.

and that person should be me the macho man randy savage becasue comparatively speaking the rest of you people are nothing but garbage to the macho man. Off balance on balance it doesn't matter I'm simply better than you. You people are like pebbles of sand and I'm the entire desert.

Don't bet against the macho man. don't bet against your life.

## Vote the Macho Man

This is the first step to lynching scum because the macho man is simply the best.

I'd kill this one if I had my way.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 01:21 GMT
#489
When did I play the newbie card? New here is not equivalent to newbie. Also, I like to keep my filter clean.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 26 2013 01:22 GMT
#490
On February 26 2013 10:20 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 10:18 Aquanim wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:11 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:03 Aquanim wrote:
Since WoS has disappeared into the shadows I'll ask someone else.
@Milksuckler, any posts that you think are particularly sketchy so far?


How about you aqua. Do you have ay thoughts? All I've heard from you is blends questions to weak/new players.

Not liking ObviousOne so far.

On February 26 2013 09:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Top scum read probably geript at the very moment. His candidacy for mayor seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Guaranteed mislynch from him as either alignment.

Terrible, terrible reasoning for this read.


I'm living in the moment here. I don't make anything of the WF JJ shenanigans yet. Got asked a question, gave an answer. Ask me about geript again in 23 hours, okay? Promise?

And he can't justify it at all.


I don't do reads on the fly. You want an actual read from me, you'll need more than 45 minutes of a handful of players talking. Who's to say any mafia are even participating yet?

He gives a read and then says this?


Garbage in, garbage out.

Nice one. Care to actually answer any of the points?
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 01:23 GMT
#491
On February 26 2013 10:16 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 10:11 JungleJorge wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:37 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:35 geript wrote:
As of yet, no. The question is why do you feel my newbie status is important?

Actually its the opposite.
You become non-existent.

'pretty much how I feel right now.
See you D2 everybody!

Promethelax, how do you feel about this post?


I'm not a fan.

but nothing means nothing yeah!!!

nothing means nothing wofs could be scum could be town. but the cream always rises yeah right top im talking cream of the crop town rises to the top.

not a bad vig shot though.
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 26 2013 01:23 GMT
#492
Terrible, terrible reasoning for this read.
It was an interesting tactic to bring up, but it's also a good way for scum to get a weaker player into a position of power.

And he can't justify it at all.
There now you have some justification.

He gives a read and then says this?
Still stands. Also, let's kill Macho Man.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 01:24 GMT
#493
On February 26 2013 10:21 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 10:10 The Macho Man wrote:
wow the mayor will be a lucky person yeah a lucky person some where out there will be a lucky person winning a great power a lucky lucky lucky person.

and that person should be me the macho man randy savage becasue comparatively speaking the rest of you people are nothing but garbage to the macho man. Off balance on balance it doesn't matter I'm simply better than you. You people are like pebbles of sand and I'm the entire desert.

Don't bet against the macho man. don't bet against your life.

## Vote the Macho Man

This is the first step to lynching scum because the macho man is simply the best.

I'd kill this one if I had my way.

The macho man is not happy with your decision because you did not explain why the macho man is scum and not the greatest of all time yeah!
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 26 2013 01:24 GMT
#494
Are you saying you want to vote for me? Or what? The roleplaying is fun, but it makes you hard to understand Macho.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 26 2013 01:24 GMT
#495
On February 26 2013 09:40 randombum wrote:
Hello. Everybody should vote me for mayor, I'm 100% correct on my first impression scum-reads for the last 2 years. That's an amazing track record.

Care to share your first impression yet or are you not satisfied with the game state yet?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 26 2013 01:24 GMT
#496
On February 26 2013 10:22 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 10:20 ObviousOne wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:18 Aquanim wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:11 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:03 Aquanim wrote:
Since WoS has disappeared into the shadows I'll ask someone else.
@Milksuckler, any posts that you think are particularly sketchy so far?


How about you aqua. Do you have ay thoughts? All I've heard from you is blends questions to weak/new players.

Not liking ObviousOne so far.

On February 26 2013 09:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Top scum read probably geript at the very moment. His candidacy for mayor seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Guaranteed mislynch from him as either alignment.

Terrible, terrible reasoning for this read.


I'm living in the moment here. I don't make anything of the WF JJ shenanigans yet. Got asked a question, gave an answer. Ask me about geript again in 23 hours, okay? Promise?

And he can't justify it at all.


I don't do reads on the fly. You want an actual read from me, you'll need more than 45 minutes of a handful of players talking. Who's to say any mafia are even participating yet?

He gives a read and then says this?


Garbage in, garbage out.

Nice one. Care to actually answer any of the points?


Seriously so you have any thinks?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
February 26 2013 01:25 GMT
#497
Hello everyone.

Before we began, I think it is important for everyone to get to know one another. As an ice breaker, I would like everyone to state their name and post three things about themselves which may not be known to the others people here. Two are true and one is not.

I will start.

My name is Chezinu

I have read my role
I never played a newbie game
I am not The Scribe!

lol, clueless in The Prism!
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
February 26 2013 01:25 GMT
#498
On February 26 2013 10:21 geript wrote:
When did I play the newbie card? New here is not equivalent to newbie. Also, I like to keep my filter clean.

On February 26 2013 09:20 geript wrote:
Additionally, I am relatively unknown

Yes unknown and newbie are not equivalent. But its pretty obvious whether you are known or not. Also you have enough posts to not be a smurf... thus:
Claiming the "unknown" card is akin to claiming newbie.

On February 26 2013 09:35 geript wrote:
As of yet, no. The question is why do you feel my newbie status is important?

Here you now say "newbie"

I did not take anything out of context.
Try harder next time Dear
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 26 2013 01:25 GMT
#499
On February 26 2013 10:21 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 10:17 Toadesstern wrote:
prom could you respond to what I (and VE in response) said over here:
On February 26 2013 10:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:04 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:57 Promethelax wrote:
Okay, so RNG didn't create the discussion I wanted. Screw you guys.

On February 26 2013 09:28 Wade Fell wrote:
My new platform is killing Layabout

Read his posts

hes scum


Explain.

For the moment my top scum read is WoS, he responded to gerpit's candidacy all wrong, obviously assuming gerpit is town but statistically...

On February 26 2013 09:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:20 geript wrote:
It looks to me that the best person for mayor is someone who is willing to:
A. put in the time to read the thread
B. both make and evaluate other's cases
C. is unlikely to be an early target for NK
In this regard I would nominate myself as I am more likely to devote more time to reading (both filters and filter in the context of the thread as a whole) than anyone else. Additionally, I am relatively unknown which removes untoward bias for or against me due to previous games as well as making me a more impartial arbiter as it regards established players.

My lynch platform is:
Scum read > hard/impossible to read > null read > town read

## vote geript

Except for the fact that you were killed N1 last game for the above reasons, by someone who is very likely smurfing in this game.


He focuses on the likelihood of a night kill on gerpit, he is too interested in night actions and not in the candidacy or the actual ideas which gerpit proposes. I'm not a fan of this post or WoS's mentality.

Vote me, screw random lynch. I'll lynch WoS.

are you mad that it didn't work or that you didn't get more credit for it?
Because it sure sounds like that. We had some discussion about the rnd you suggested, we had some discussion about what I suggested. I most definitely wouldn't phrase it the way your are


This is something I noticed too. It sparked discussion - I'm left wondering what kind of discussion he thought RNG was supposed to generate if it didn't generate the kind he wanted.

because again, the way you phrased that sounds awfully odd and I'm thinking of multiple explanations. None of them includes something you with a townie-mindset.


Because I wanted it to gain some real traction. I had an idea about actually getting close and withdrawing my nomination since if scum was up for lynch they'd be pushing me as mayor where if there was a townie up for lynch they'd be pushing against me. It's a plan that only works if I get support on it. That was the discussion I wanted to spark.

why did you tell us about being just being a plattform to create talk with if you wanted it to get some real traction?
That kind of counters your idea.

I'd say you wanted to look like someone who wants to create discussion but wants to make sure he looks good. When it became too hot (and it didn't, the timing to go back on that was way to early if you wanted to achieve something, so you're overly defensive for whatever reason) for your idea you went ahead yelling GUYS GUYS, I BE TROLL LOL DON'T TAKE ME SERIOUS

Do we have a dayvig?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 26 2013 01:25 GMT
#500
On February 26 2013 10:23 ObviousOne wrote:
Terrible, terrible reasoning for this read.
It was an interesting tactic to bring up, but it's also a good way for scum to get a weaker player into a position of power.

And he can't justify it at all.
There now you have some justification.

He gives a read and then says this?
Still stands. Also, let's kill Macho Man.

You still haven't given any reason why geript is scum, merely that if he is then this would be a viable tactic. Do you have any actual reason to think that he is scum?
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