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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
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February 26 2013 14:39 GMT
#876
On February 26 2013 23:37 MilkSuckler wrote:
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On February 26 2013 23:28 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 26 2013 23:27 The Milkman wrote:
On February 26 2013 23:25 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 26 2013 23:24 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 23:21 The Macho Man wrote:
Prom is definitely not confirmed scum as the whole thread seems to think and the most concerning thing that he actually has done is this post here in saying that he isn't going to be active after all the pressure. This is the most tell sign that he is scum

If he does not care about town and doesn't post then he should die.

In fairness, Prome said pre-game he would be unavailable during this period of the cycle. So I dont treat the absence as scummy.

You are the second person (after JungleJorge) to purport Prome innocent, with not backing.

Considering he is under heavy scrutiny, I think it is the time to provide the evidence to support his innocence, instead of a soft-claim.

I expect that you have voiced your opinion on this matter, you will have no qualms following through with the reasoning.

Thank you.

he has been one of the more active guys seems interested in the game and looks like he cared about the lynch. Those are in fact townie traits.

Those are in fact traits which are very weak to call someone town. Does that mean that not posting means someone is scum?
We all know how lurkers turn out.

scum don't like the spotlight prom has been in the spotlight. That's mafia 101 come on.

So let me haphazard a guess.

That you are in the spotlight defending prome; suggests -with your logic - that you are not scum, due to mafia 101? Correct?

of course
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 15:04 GMT
#885
On February 26 2013 23:41 MilkSuckler wrote:
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On February 26 2013 23:28 The Macho Man wrote:
scum don't like the spotlight prom has been in the spotlight. That's mafia 101 come on.

Macho Man

(1) Do you think Vivax has been in the spotlight? He has seemed to draw attention from multiple stakeholders.
is lynch interest the only separator between Vivax/prome for you?

vivax has not been in the spotlight at all he just seems like he wants to appear active with pointless posts that do nothing. He does not look like he is trying to figure out peoples alignment at all. Ie throws shit at me but does nothing with. That is extremely mafia motivated mindset because he doesn't want the attention of trying to push for my lynch but still wants to throw needless suspicion.


On February 26 2013 23:41 MilkSuckler wrote:

(2) I am confused when you say prome has been interested in the lynch? Can you please expand, because this conflicts with my opinions (already expressed here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399294&currentpage=37#726)


his thoughts on ve and grush come to mind figuring out that some people might be town is useful in a mayor vote
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 15:12 GMT
#886
lets see who is putting effort and looking closely at things
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 15:25 GMT
#892
On February 27 2013 00:12 MilkSuckler wrote:
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On February 27 2013 00:04 The Macho Man wrote:
vivax has not been in the spotlight at all he just seems like he wants to appear active with pointless posts that do nothing. He does not look like he is trying to figure out peoples alignment at all. Ie throws shit at me but does nothing with. That is extremely mafia motivated mindset because he doesn't want the attention of trying to push for my lynch but still wants to throw needless suspicion.
I am having trouble understanding how you can claim Vivax is "extremely mafia motivated" when it is known he is typically a "trolly" type player.
If he is such a scum read for you; why not lead pressure on Vivax? I noticed you called him out, and then proceed to declare he should die. Where is the intention to understand whether your read was made abruptly?


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On February 26 2013 23:41 MilkSuckler wrote:
(2) I am confused when you say prome has been interested in the lynch? Can you please expand, because this conflicts with my opinions (already expressed here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399294&currentpage=37#726)
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On February 27 2013 00:04 The Macho Man wrote:
his thoughts on ve and grush come to mind figuring out that some people might be town is useful in a mayor vote
Im not seeing the connection to why commenting about starsenses (i.e. Grush) is useful in a mayor vote.
Are you looking for someone who declares openly their town reads; or are you looking for someone actively engaging others in the scum hunt?

Please share your logic process.

because we want town in those positions not mafia. We figure out who town is vote them thats why town reads are useful right now.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 15:27 GMT
#894
On February 27 2013 00:26 Toadesstern wrote:
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On February 27 2013 00:25 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 27 2013 00:17 The Milkman wrote:
On February 27 2013 00:15 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2013 23:22 The Milkman wrote:
On February 26 2013 23:09 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2013 22:33 The Milkman wrote:
My initial read on Promethelax was such a disaster, I support his lynch wholeheartedly. His play does not sum up as a town one in my book. He should push analysis, help with shooting down bad plans, actually scum hunt and so on. What is his reaction to pressure? No reaction. He just seems to start posting one liners and filler. I understand Dr's reluctance to be elected mayor, he just wants to play for a little while for once. Viscera is playing cool too. Milksuckler got a little townier than at the start, he seemed cold. Now he seems to be in the mafia trance! Vivax is in my opinion playing terribly, trying to do meaningless stuff like smurf identities, spamming and overall fluff. Toad strikes me as suspicious because of his position and calling for day vig. He does not seem right based on meta - he is not the guy to be "somewhere" but the guy to be at the top of town's structure. Leading, working hard and scumhunting.


wat? Are you kidding me? I did more than anyone in this game so far. The game started 01 am my time. That's really late and still everyone's on prom because of the 3 posts I DID about him and laya / VE and later on everyone else agreeing with what I said / repeating what I said about prom in everyone's one words.

What do you expect me to do on top of what I already did this game? Especially considering that it was 1am at the time the game started and I went to bed around 3am (stayed awake longer because I felt I could get something going on prom and I was right lol).
I'd punch you in the face for that statement of your. And I'm not talking about mafia "punch in you the face" à la lynching you.

Take a look what I posted and consider that the time you are telling me I should have been more active, being "on top of town" were between 3am and 12am...

Come on man, stop with that megalomania. I understand that you have high mafia-esteem, but I just noticed that you are not the star of the show. That's all. I saw your games where you were one of the most sparkling ones.
[...]

Isn't that kind of contradicting itself? You expect me to be the star of the show and tell me I should have been more active around 4 to 5 am my time..

Toad, you made enough posts but just did not get into the front row. I am not attacking you for not playing 24h, I am just saying that you DID post but your presence was not as strong as it usually is.

I said I'd be willing to bet VE's left ball on prom benig mafia 2 hours into the game and that we need to kill him. What exactly do you consider thread presence? Because it does sound like you don't consider me enough in people's faces from what I'm reading and quite frankly I don't think I can be more into peoples faces as I've been the first couple of hours this game.

I'm just trying to understand what you're accusing me of... especially considering that I've got people in skype laughing about me because it's so obvious I'm town this game and I won't stand a chance next time I roll mafia if I keep on playing the way I am right now.

EWBOP

am in a game of dota right now so I'm only posting very quickly inbetween deaths :p

so a lot?
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 15:39 GMT
#900
i like vivax's post
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 15:39 GMT
#901
On February 27 2013 00:35 The Milkman wrote:
Why are people of low thread presence trying to defend Promethelax and swing the lynch somewhere else?

because he might be town
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 16:02 GMT
#908
On February 27 2013 00:59 MilkSuckler wrote:
The Macho Man = Iamperfection

I have to say... now that I know mr. super duper pro-town is hard defending prome, I am even more concerned....

concerned about what
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 16:04 GMT
#911
On February 27 2013 01:03 The Milkman wrote:
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On February 27 2013 01:02 Vivax wrote:
No, that post by yours is mafia agenda bro. I'm not glorifying anything, I'm laying out my thoughts and posting my reads.

U scum?

Okay, that solves things. I'll just get an ignore list going.

for someone that hasn't done shit all game.

I ask you the same question. You scum?
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 16:08 GMT
#915
On February 27 2013 01:07 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 01:02 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 27 2013 00:59 MilkSuckler wrote:
The Macho Man = Iamperfection

I have to say... now that I know mr. super duper pro-town is hard defending prome, I am even more concerned....

concerned about what

Well now that I know you are != n00b .. I expect more rational that what has been presented from you.

Im not a heretic on prome; I identified behaviour I think is consistent with a scum mentality.
Everything you have declared as reasons for prome to be town are weak at best and defending a scumbuddy at worst.

Show nested quote +
e.g. Scum can easily say Grush is town; as much as prome can due to starsenses... the point is m00t and thus NOT alignment indicative. yet you advocate it is.....


This in conjunction with not being a n00b, is far from perfect play....

lol your lucky you get any rationale from me.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 16:10 GMT
#917
On February 27 2013 01:09 Restraining Order wrote:
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On February 27 2013 00:35 The Milkman wrote:
Why are people of low thread presence trying to defend Promethelax and swing the lynch somewhere else?

This is the dumbest thing I have read all game, and let me tell you, there are plenty dumb things around.

like your filter...

I'm rolling baby
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 23:01 GMT
#1134
Ve looks town to me
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 23:07 GMT
#1141
On February 27 2013 07:59 grush57 wrote:
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On February 27 2013 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Anyone else, grush?

I don't like Milkman.

I agree with this

That milkman dude talks a lot of town atmosphere not much scum hunting.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 23:17 GMT
#1148
On February 27 2013 08:12 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 08:09 Restraining Order wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:07 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:59 grush57 wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Anyone else, grush?

I don't like Milkman.

I agree with this

That milkman dude talks a lot of town atmosphere not much scum hunting.

I agree with this agreement.

we aren't even halfway through day1 and much of the time there hasn't been much say since it was so early or people have very short filters that don't reveal a lot

why are you defending him?
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 23:23 GMT
#1151
On February 27 2013 08:20 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 08:17 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:12 layabout wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:09 Restraining Order wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:07 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:59 grush57 wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Anyone else, grush?

I don't like Milkman.

I agree with this

That milkman dude talks a lot of town atmosphere not much scum hunting.

I agree with this agreement.

we aren't even halfway through day1 and much of the time there hasn't been much say since it was so early or people have very short filters that don't reveal a lot

why are you defending him?

well i haven't demonstrated any scumhunting because i haven't felt able, there was a point a few hours in where people were giving "scumreads" as though it was meanful or helpful when it wasn't. I don't think him "not scumhunting" at this stage is particularly revealing. haven't even filtered him.

i dont even.... wat just so much wat

i will be back in a bit
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 27 2013 02:58 GMT
#1267
On February 27 2013 11:45 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 11:34 Restraining Order wrote:
On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax

Yes Maybe Yes Yes No Yes

Agree on testsubject

With JJ..after re-reading his filter, I liking him a lot better and wouldnt consider him a strong candidate for lynch.

I am very keen to hear the continuation thoughts on macho man, once prome is lynched. This will be paramount to developing my read further on him.

how so
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 27 2013 03:07 GMT
#1271
On February 27 2013 12:06 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 12:02 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 27 2013 11:58 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 27 2013 11:45 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 27 2013 11:34 Restraining Order wrote:
On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax

Yes Maybe Yes Yes No Yes

Agree on testsubject

With JJ..after re-reading his filter, I liking him a lot better and wouldnt consider him a strong candidate for lynch.

I am very keen to hear the continuation thoughts on macho man, once prome is lynched. This will be paramount to developing my read further on him.

how so

Shit question, shit answer.

Cos I thought so.

Up ya game, its far from perfect. being in two games isnt an excuse for shit play or shit questions.

wanna try asking again with something specific?

well good sir i just checked my role pm and it says regardless of what prom is i am town its very conditional like that

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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 27 2013 03:10 GMT
#1274
On February 27 2013 12:08 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 12:06 iamperfection wrote:
On February 27 2013 12:02 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 27 2013 11:58 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 27 2013 11:45 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 27 2013 11:34 Restraining Order wrote:
On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax

Yes Maybe Yes Yes No Yes

Agree on testsubject

With JJ..after re-reading his filter, I liking him a lot better and wouldnt consider him a strong candidate for lynch.

I am very keen to hear the continuation thoughts on macho man, once prome is lynched. This will be paramount to developing my read further on him.

how so

Shit question, shit answer.

Cos I thought so.

Up ya game, its far from perfect. being in two games isnt an excuse for shit play or shit questions.

wanna try asking again with something specific?

well good sir i just checked my role pm and it says regardless of what prom is i am town its very conditional like that

<sarcasm> Guess what, mine said Im a duelist....
Thanks for deciding to lift ya game and make meaningful conversation </sarcasm>

ya you doing that meaningful covesation that im scum based on proms flip ya thats real useful.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 27 2013 03:11 GMT
#1276
On February 27 2013 12:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On February 27 2013 12:08 Hassybaby wrote:
Ok, it's 3am here and I have to leave for the airport in half an hour, so I'll read up again in about 10 hours


Is it just me or does this read like he's been here reading all along and was signing off in spite of having said like nothing in hours? :/

i would say that is accurate
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 28 2013 01:36 GMT
#1798
i dont contribute all day and i could only find like two people calling me out whats wrong with you people
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