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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 03 2013 08:09 GMT
#3061
My qualm isnt the change in post structure or opinion.

It is the way he chooses to push his agenda.

I think there is a clear difference in that behaviour.

These differences havr been highlighted multiple times by myself and dr.h

alsi in a bigger game i think it is easier to have different opinions. Not sure why u think there is less tolerance. But in my mind the greater number of ppl makws it harder to track each persons agenda
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 03 2013 08:24 GMT
#3062
On March 01 2013 04:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
VE states it himself: Geript looks like he is grasping SO HARD to find something wrong with VE, when in reality he's looking in the wrong place. VE never lied about his intentions at all, rather its his behaviour which makes VE not look so great at times and his ragey raging at the end of D1...but instead Geript tunnels him on lying. VE has defended himself on the 'lying' aspect adequately, I feel. I'll get to this in my analysis of his most recent case at the end.

There have been lots of little things that have bugged me about WoS. Call it tunneling, call it confirmation bias, call it whatever you want. Now I'll admit that the bolded phrase could be taken to mean, "VE is clearly town." But isn't the simplest way of saying that as doing just that. This phrasing makes it sound to me like he knows the right place to be looking.

More to come.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 03 2013 08:35 GMT
#3063
On March 03 2013 17:24 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 04:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
VE states it himself: Geript looks like he is grasping SO HARD to find something wrong with VE, when in reality he's looking in the wrong place. VE never lied about his intentions at all, rather its his behaviour which makes VE not look so great at times and his ragey raging at the end of D1...but instead Geript tunnels him on lying. VE has defended himself on the 'lying' aspect adequately, I feel. I'll get to this in my analysis of his most recent case at the end.

There have been lots of little things that have bugged me about WoS. Call it tunneling, call it confirmation bias, call it whatever you want. Now I'll admit that the bolded phrase could be taken to mean, "VE is clearly town." But isn't the simplest way of saying that as doing just that. This phrasing makes it sound to me like he knows the right place to be looking.

More to come.

More tunneling to come.
Looking forward to it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 03 2013 08:36 GMT
#3064
I grow weary of these games.
COME AT ME, GERIPT, FOR I AM FEARLESS
HAVE AT THEE
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 03 2013 08:43 GMT
#3065
On March 03 2013 17:09 Mocsta wrote:
It is the way he chooses to push his agenda.

I think there is a clear difference in that behaviour.

Yeah I have no idea what this means. Could you be more explicit? What is different in the way he "pushes his agenda"?


alsi in a bigger game i think it is easier to have different opinions. Not sure why u think there is less tolerance.

I would quote wade yelling at everyone for not voting chezinu two hours into day two, and toad and layabout calling everyone terrible for not considering them confirmed town, etc. etc. but you know what I can't be assed.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 03 2013 08:44 GMT
#3066
OO's filter looks bad, but he's genuinely disinterested in the game. In the last game he was clearly invested and interested (as 3rd party). Whether or not you factor any BPD into the equation, I seriously doubt it would affect it like this. If he's rolled scum you'd at least be seeing him wave up and down and that's just not there at all. I have him marked as 1000% vanilla.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 03 2013 08:48 GMT
#3067
Also as an fyi, this may end up being more stream of consciousness than I intended, but it's coming out as it comes out.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 03 2013 08:51 GMT
#3068
On March 03 2013 17:43 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 17:09 Mocsta wrote:
It is the way he chooses to push his agenda.

I think there is a clear difference in that behaviour.

Yeah I have no idea what this means. Could you be more explicit? What is different in the way he "pushes his agenda"?

Show nested quote +

alsi in a bigger game i think it is easier to have different opinions. Not sure why u think there is less tolerance.

I would quote wade yelling at everyone for not voting chezinu two hours into day two, and toad and layabout calling everyone terrible for not considering them confirmed town, etc. etc. but you know what I can't be assed.

Im not home. Will flesh this out for u day3.

Frankly i cant see how u see similarities in play. But will deal with yhis day3 assuming i am around
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 03 2013 08:51 GMT
#3069
JJ has made some real sense to me throughout and in review his filter I don't entirely understand his whole case on Aqua, but it definitely seems weird that Aqua only 'buys' the Prome case when WF spells it out. I mean, I had Prome as null to null minus, but WF case didn't budge me whatsoever. IIRC, Wade's case was the nail in the coffin of sorts. Right now I'm leaning Plus, since Aqua's been attacking OO who I have at vanilla it makes more sense for Aqua to be scum. I'm definitely leaning Aqua as not third party.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 03 2013 08:52 GMT
#3070
On March 03 2013 17:51 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 17:43 Aquanim wrote:
On March 03 2013 17:09 Mocsta wrote:
It is the way he chooses to push his agenda.

I think there is a clear difference in that behaviour.

Yeah I have no idea what this means. Could you be more explicit? What is different in the way he "pushes his agenda"?


alsi in a bigger game i think it is easier to have different opinions. Not sure why u think there is less tolerance.

I would quote wade yelling at everyone for not voting chezinu two hours into day two, and toad and layabout calling everyone terrible for not considering them confirmed town, etc. etc. but you know what I can't be assed.

Im not home. Will flesh this out for u day3.

Frankly i cant see how u see similarities in play. But will deal with yhis day3 assuming i am around

It's probably a little harder for him considering he wasn't in the game.
I'm actually so excited for Geript's upcoming case, what's he gonna bring to da table this time?

I'm kinda tempted to just leave it to other people to pick apart for once since both our cases kinda get ignored a lot.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 03 2013 08:53 GMT
#3071
Oh wait Geipt you're doing a stream of consciousness on random people in the game and not just me?
I am disappoint.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 03 2013 08:56 GMT
#3072
On March 03 2013 17:44 geript wrote:
OO's filter looks bad, but he's genuinely disinterested in the game. In the last game he was clearly invested and interested (as 3rd party). Whether or not you factor any BPD into the equation, I seriously doubt it would affect it like this. If he's rolled scum you'd at least be seeing him wave up and down and that's just not there at all. I have him marked as 1000% vanilla.

Whats BPD?

Also how do u come to the conclusion of what OO scum game is based on 3rd party play¿

Why do u think OO as VT would act all withdrawn.

Have u read his thoughts in the shadow player thread? He gets genuine enjoyment trying to figure out scum team.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 03 2013 09:00 GMT
#3073
borderline personality disorder?
RIP Aaliyah
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 03 2013 09:02 GMT
#3074
On March 03 2013 18:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
borderline personality disorder?

Dr Geript, Analyst Extraordinaire strikes again.

Really wish he would leave that RL shit out of it if that's what he's doing.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 03 2013 09:03 GMT
#3075
TMM made a hard defense of Prome with a possible chainsaw on Vivax. He admits to being willing to bus as scum. He's seems completely indifferent as to who he attacks and doesn't really care about scumhunting. Strongly leaning 3rd party.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 03 2013 09:03 GMT
#3076
On March 03 2013 17:51 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 17:43 Aquanim wrote:
On March 03 2013 17:09 Mocsta wrote:
It is the way he chooses to push his agenda.

I think there is a clear difference in that behaviour.

Yeah I have no idea what this means. Could you be more explicit? What is different in the way he "pushes his agenda"?


alsi in a bigger game i think it is easier to have different opinions. Not sure why u think there is less tolerance.

I would quote wade yelling at everyone for not voting chezinu two hours into day two, and toad and layabout calling everyone terrible for not considering them confirmed town, etc. etc. but you know what I can't be assed.

Im not home. Will flesh this out for u day3.

Frankly i cant see how u see similarities in play. But will deal with yhis day3 assuming i am around

For reference whenever you return to this I do see differences between his play here and in the newbie. What I want to know is exactly why those differences are indicative of a scum mentality, rather than the different environment (i.e. under attack by vets and in a larger game).
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 03 2013 09:03 GMT
#3077
Bipolar
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 03 2013 09:07 GMT
#3078
@Mocsta re:OO BPD tends to have highs and lows. I will admit that perhaps I'm projecting on him re: scum is fun because I've gotten non-VT twice, but I see no interest in staying alive in him. I'd expect that he'd either lurk hardcore doing the minimum until he'd die. He's wanting to put in effort but isnt; that's my read. Reads VT to me.
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 03 2013 09:18 GMT
#3079
Milksuckler when you accidentally post on the wrong account, quote it from your smurf account so we can filter-dive.
Politics is the Mind-Killer
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 03 2013 09:24 GMT
#3080
On March 03 2013 17:51 Mocsta wrote:
It is the way he chooses to push his agenda.

I think there is a clear difference in that behaviour.

Look, there's really not a point. Honestly. My filter looks different at points and in some regards. He can point to size/vets/coaching, you can point to the fact that there's a difference. I can point to the fact in 12 games, I've gotten LVT in 10 of them (one of them I was mafia). Either way, I think that barring something completely crazy I can put the 11nth on the mantle with the rest. So I'd appreciate it if you'd just shut the fuck up about my play entirely as you're literally judging me on the best game I've played and there's no real way to defend myself this game.
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