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MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 02:14 GMT
#2334
On March 01 2013 11:12 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 11:10 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:07 Chezinu wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:06 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:04 Chezinu wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:00 Vivax wrote:
Do you mean you just called me scum for shits and giggles?

Chez, do you have any proper reads besides some blabbering about third party paranoia?

Dude, I'm a sheriff. I can't just go on and revealing my investigations publicly... except for those that are erroneously solved.

Sheriff: As the Sheriff of this fine(ish) city, you spend each and every day keeping the peace and making sure nothing gets too out of hand. You may inspect a player each night and determine if they are Innocent or Guilty.

So where does bartender fit into this?

PSH.. that's no sheriff! Real sheriff got... welll... I cannot say atm.. I will just say that that sounds more like a weak detective.

Well if you the "sheriff" who can check bartenders..

I am happy to go all Warren G on u

You should have seen me when I rolled a bank.. oh and I wasn't making money... I was literally the bank!

Chez.. if you were forced to nominate 1 of the 3 players for mayoral lynch.. who would you pick

Geript... Jungle Jorge...MilkSuckler
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 02:18 GMT
#2337
On March 01 2013 11:16 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 11:14 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:12 Chezinu wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:10 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:07 Chezinu wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:06 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:04 Chezinu wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:00 Vivax wrote:
Do you mean you just called me scum for shits and giggles?

Chez, do you have any proper reads besides some blabbering about third party paranoia?

Dude, I'm a sheriff. I can't just go on and revealing my investigations publicly... except for those that are erroneously solved.

Sheriff: As the Sheriff of this fine(ish) city, you spend each and every day keeping the peace and making sure nothing gets too out of hand. You may inspect a player each night and determine if they are Innocent or Guilty.

So where does bartender fit into this?

PSH.. that's no sheriff! Real sheriff got... welll... I cannot say atm.. I will just say that that sounds more like a weak detective.

Well if you the "sheriff" who can check bartenders..

I am happy to go all Warren G on u

You should have seen me when I rolled a bank.. oh and I wasn't making money... I was literally the bank!

Chez.. if you were forced to nominate 1 of the 3 players for mayoral lynch.. who would you pick

Geript... Jungle Jorge...MilkSuckler

ITS A TRAP!!

Remain calm.... Please sir, put down the weapon!

Good.. my answer is + Show Spoiler +
That milk suckler

Now I can really go Warren G on ya ass

KK.. lets do it properly

Jungle Jorge... Toadesstern... Milkman

which 1 for instant lynch
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 02:19 GMT
#2338
On March 01 2013 11:17 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 10:26 The Milkman wrote:
On March 01 2013 10:22 randombum wrote:
I guess that came out badly, I mean it more like since my original case and who I was planning to really push for has now become less of a target in my mind I'm looking to be convinced about somebody else. If I don't find somebody worth sheeping then I'll go with jcarl.

Look, go to a random number generator, put in 25 numbers and analyse the filter you get. If it is viscera or bc we still need to restate their thoughts because they are confirmed town and we might have missed something.


I got 6. So glurio. Overall I like his posting. Something I noticed was he seems be to paying attention and caring. He mentions that quote he dislikes about OO, and remembers it later and still dis-likes it. The only thing I have agaisnt him is that he seemed to tunnel pretty hard on vivax, and then his last post is he now likes the effort vivax puts in.

That was pretty short and easy to do so I'll do another one before I go play more dota.

Cool.. that aligns with my thoughts.

What do you do if you RNG yaself -_- lol
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 02:23 GMT
#2341
On March 01 2013 11:21 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 11:18 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:16 Chezinu wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:14 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:12 Chezinu wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:10 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:07 Chezinu wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:06 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:04 Chezinu wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:00 Vivax wrote:
Do you mean you just called me scum for shits and giggles?

Chez, do you have any proper reads besides some blabbering about third party paranoia?

Dude, I'm a sheriff. I can't just go on and revealing my investigations publicly... except for those that are erroneously solved.

Sheriff: As the Sheriff of this fine(ish) city, you spend each and every day keeping the peace and making sure nothing gets too out of hand. You may inspect a player each night and determine if they are Innocent or Guilty.

So where does bartender fit into this?

PSH.. that's no sheriff! Real sheriff got... welll... I cannot say atm.. I will just say that that sounds more like a weak detective.

Well if you the "sheriff" who can check bartenders..

I am happy to go all Warren G on u

You should have seen me when I rolled a bank.. oh and I wasn't making money... I was literally the bank!

Chez.. if you were forced to nominate 1 of the 3 players for mayoral lynch.. who would you pick

Geript... Jungle Jorge...MilkSuckler

ITS A TRAP!!

Remain calm.... Please sir, put down the weapon!

Good.. my answer is + Show Spoiler +
That milk suckler

Now I can really go Warren G on ya ass

KK.. lets do it properly

Jungle Jorge... Toadesstern... Milkman

which 1 for instant lynch


OK, you good guy! As of now, I never really liked that Toad guy. He always put the wrong guys in jail.

I was expecting you to choose the bartender.

The exam has progressed from multiple choice to short answer.

Q - 10 points
Please outline in dot points why Toad is selected over Milkman

----------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------------------------------------

(10)
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 02:30 GMT
#2349
On March 01 2013 11:24 Vivax wrote:
Mocsta what's making you so sure that milkman is town? You're shrugging off whatever points I brought against him with little reasoning, and he was dead set on making my claim look bad.

I also don't see whatever fallacy you just mentioned about me. My points against him are clear, although I left a few out:

  • He immediately attacked my claim with little reasoning.

  • saved up this point cause it's strong: He didn't inquire at all whether my shot is refunded or not. That means he doesn't have an actual interest into knowing if I'm really vig or not. He had a primary interest into painting me scummy

  • He sounded extremely sure about VE getting doublestacked and justified it with weak reasoning about it when asked afterwards. What is just this reasoning? Why do you argue about someone (me) being scum based on scum doublestacking someone when there could be a multitude of other options? Why doesn't he rule them out with logic if he's so sure about exactly that version happening?

  • Not believing that there could not be medics. I call bullshit, he has no base whatsoever to think that.

  • Saying that if there ever was a medic he would have protected VE for sure.

  • Not all people posted yet, he doesn't even know if others were roleblocked besides Toad. Yet he proceeds to doubt my claim with (maybe) incomplete info.

  • His early play regarding Prom is scummy, as pointed out with three important posts.


Just wanted to say, I liked the way you presented ya thoughts with this post.. was clear to read (I would prefer if you kept producing content that way)

Look, you're right, I am just saying he is town..
Let me read his filter and confirm where I stand with milkman.. THEN I will comment to whether I agree with your case or not.
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 02:31 GMT
#2352
On March 01 2013 11:28 geript wrote:
Sure. I think he's playing the same game. What'd you think of my points on toad?

Lol

please dot point 3 things that are similar
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 02:32 GMT
#2353
On March 01 2013 11:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
So...nobody has had a look at MilkSuckler/Mocsta in a little while, and as much as I'd like to, people tend to ignore my shit.
Vivax, Geript, Aquanim and DrH.
Any thoughts regarding him at all before I dive in at some point in the near future?

Is there something in particular u want to address to me?

If you feel confident I am scum.. why do you need bandwagon support?

You had no problem stepping up to ask for the pardoner role.. why should this be any different?
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 02:36 GMT
#2360
On March 01 2013 11:29 randombum wrote:
Alright 22, Restraining order,

Overall, another really short one, but the conclusion is different though. I don't like his posting. Mostly lurkerish and minimal analysis (focused on JJ). His tone also really bugs me like:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 01:09 Restraining Order wrote:
On February 27 2013 00:35 The Milkman wrote:
Why are people of low thread presence trying to defend Promethelax and swing the lynch somewhere else?

This is the dumbest thing I have read all game, and let me tell you, there are plenty dumb things around.

I hate comments like that which really shouldn't be a part of team liquid. His most redeeming post is:
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On February 27 2013 11:34 Restraining Order wrote:
On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax

Yes Maybe Yes Yes No Yes

Which is basically a scum list with no justification. In other words, it's pretty pointless/bad. And that's his most redeeming. So he's super suspicious to me.
Not quite as strong as jcarl because jcarls filter just as shitty, but as I posted earlier jcarl backtracked his reads with almost no explanation which to me is worse than lurking.

Randombum.. thanks for going through the filters.

you have identified two people you are suspicious of.

What do you intend to do with them?
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 02:40 GMT
#2367
On March 01 2013 11:33 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 11:31 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:28 geript wrote:
Sure. I think he's playing the same game. What'd you think of my points on toad?

Lol

please dot point 3 things that are similar

No

Yeah cos you cant.. spewing bullshit again just like you did with VE

keep it up Geript

Let me remind you of this....
On February 20 2013 12:27 geript wrote:
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On February 20 2013 07:55 cDgCorazon wrote:
While you're here can I ask you why you are mad at me and never want to play with me again?

Because you played like an asshole the whole game. I have no problems with people being wrong, that happens. I can deal with pushing bad reads. But I stand behind everything I said about you two creating a negative town atmosphere; at least Mocsta had a reason to be harming atmosphere. I think part of the reason for no consolidation was the fact that no one wanted to deal with the bullshit you'd give them. I think I even stated in game, there's a difference between being aggressive (which can be good) and being an asshole (which is always worthless). Letting off the gas can be as effective in reading people as putting it on.

Why you being the "worthless" asshole right now?
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 02:45 GMT
#2375
On March 01 2013 11:40 Chezinu wrote:
So, how did I score on the test?

0

failed to submit
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 02:46 GMT
#2377
On March 01 2013 11:42 Chezinu wrote:
I said that I am the sheriff! THe sheriff with the gun! Not some weak detective!

##shoot The Milkman

Its not bolded...
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 02:52 GMT
#2387
QFT
On March 01 2013 11:49 MilkSuckler wrote:
Day2
##Vote: Toadesstern


Geript.. stop being an asshole
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399294&currentpage=119#2367
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 02:53 GMT
#2391
On March 01 2013 11:53 Chezinu wrote:
Just so you guys know, I didn't do it for the cheznos. I just wanted to save town from burning.

Lets wait for the flip.. like u said

u pm grey?
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 02:56 GMT
#2397
hmm.. prob shot the gun off to use it before the town day vig comes into play
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 02:58 GMT
#2401
On March 01 2013 11:56 geript wrote:
Chez I would've hearted you more if you had shot the suckling.

u realise your spammy quips is a complete deviation from your town meta....

and your current play is aligned with everything you said you openly detest as town.
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 03:03 GMT
#2405
On March 01 2013 12:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
The chaos.....THE CHAOS
So....is there gonna be a flip or can we get back to productive discussion?

On March 01 2013 11:32 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 11:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
So...nobody has had a look at MilkSuckler/Mocsta in a little while, and as much as I'd like to, people tend to ignore my shit.
Vivax, Geript, Aquanim and DrH.
Any thoughts regarding him at all before I dive in at some point in the near future?

Is there something in particular u want to address to me?

If you feel confident I am scum.. why do you need bandwagon support?

You had no problem stepping up to ask for the pardoner role.. why should this be any different?

@wos
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 03:16 GMT
#2412
On March 01 2013 12:08 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 11:58 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 01 2013 11:56 geript wrote:
Chez I would've hearted you more if you had shot the suckling.

u realise your spammy quips is a complete deviation from your town meta....

and your current play is aligned with everything you said you openly detest as town.

Notice how my spammy quips are aimed at you?

And your point being?

Im stating fact here.. you clearly said in your forthcoming games you were going to take a rational, well-reasoned approach and when town is focused on the bullshit, steer it back to the right direction with original content.

I barely see any of that... I have only two reasons why I think you could be town
(1) You havnt given up on your pardoner fixation - but this is a weak tell as scum can do this (just it doesnt happen often)
(2) I dont see why you would tunnel VE, to then NK him - this is relatively strong

But if you were town, this puts you firmly in bad townie territory, there is no escape from this.

You need to shape up and stop being a smart-arse, because point (2) is quickly being thrown out the window and thats your saving grace with me currently.
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 03:21 GMT
#2415
On March 01 2013 12:19 geript wrote:
Fine then, what's your thoughts in my quote Re toad. I see no reason to bring it up as town considering his response to WF

Geript
Who are you addressing
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 03:33 GMT
#2428
On March 01 2013 10:46 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 06:33 geript wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:23 Toadesstern wrote:
Yes. I'm thinking about combining the lynch with getting rid of the pardoner by making the most likely lynch come in 2nd on purpose.

On February 26 2013 09:40 Toadesstern wrote:
yeah I guess. I thought about it pregame a bit and came to the conclusion that it's too hard to pull off and at the same time is restricting us timewise because we'd have to set on a lynch way ahead of time to make sure everyone knows what's going on, which basicly makes the day a 24h day instead of a 48h day. Wanted to see people's thoughts though and I don't exactly like your response to it unlike other ones.

Wait a second. You think about it. You conclude it's too hard to pull off. You still bring it up?

Brought it up at night. Anyone have a reason why he'd agree with BH/WF that it was too hard to pull off and have found that answer in the pre game but still decided to bring it up?

Firstly
On March 01 2013 11:49 MilkSuckler wrote:
Day2
##Vote: Toadesstern

So I am already slightly biased.

As for my opinion.
I had a good think about this actually.. because.. NMM37 i got slammed for RNG talk, but still raised it in-game.
Yes i was scum.. but i had every intention to continue RNG discussion regardless of alignment - it was an ego challenge.

Now I know Toad likes to wave the epeen out as much as BH.. but.. i dont see what forum cred you gain for pushing out a rejected pardoner plan (vs getting traction on something stupid like RNG)

Really.. the only reason I think someone would push a pre-game plan that failed .. in-game.. is perhaps because he was testing how stupid the smurfs were?
===============
In short, though your point raises sound concerns, it is not a nail in the coffin, rather it is icing on the cake.

+ Show Spoiler [MS Suggestions] +

Take this however you want.. but I notice this game you have a tendency to focus on 1 specific action.

This is akin to my tunneling of Aquanim Night 1.

Townies can make poor choices, and with your methodology, that one mistake can be what sets you onto them.

I am suggesting it is important to take their whole filter into context.. what is the overall agenda they have been trying to push.

Thats my 2c
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 03:34 GMT
#2430
On March 01 2013 12:23 geript wrote:
Also, what are your thoughts re: the other 4 who followed me in trying to get Prom as pardoner.

Im about to head out.. can you help me out and list who the 4 ppl are.. or give me the page #s in the thread

I think it was around p80 when the bullshit started.
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