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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 28 2013 20:49 GMT
#1424
As in why didnt you die Acro.
Considering marv died day 1, not likely to be a medic.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 28 2013 20:52 GMT
#1427
I expected Acro to die, yes.
Also that was an obvious gambit by yamato, unless its not a gambit?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 28 2013 20:56 GMT
#1430
I dont know, the timing was pretty decent if it was to 'save' you from the nightkill.

Alderan. Acro is under absolutely no pressure right now. He is not gonna get lynched in the near future, and as town, is a very important player.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 28 2013 21:00 GMT
#1434
Why is Acro scum Alderan?

Gambit means plan, trick, ploy.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 28 2013 21:22 GMT
#1440
Ok lets go filter diving Alderan

On March 01 2013 06:06 Alderan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 06:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is Acro scum Alderan?

Gambit means plan, trick, ploy.


I am sick of fucking repeating myself to you. I won't do it again. Read my filter if you can't find. You're not providing any worthwhile input so I'm not going to waste my time explaining things to you.


Lets start with this.
However, you posted just an hour or two earlier that Dieno was your only strong scum read. So what changed?

On March 01 2013 05:13 Alderan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 05:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Go tell other people why you think I am scum.
Make a case on someone.
Please.
Unless you are scum. Then I couldnt care less.


I didn't say you were scum did I....

I've made my case on Dieno, thats who I'd like to lynch. I'm not going to post my cases on others when they are not as strong as that one.

I don't see you providing any high level analysis, but I've just gotten used to it from you.


Lets see your 'case' on Dieno ok?

On March 01 2013 00:56 Alderan wrote:
As for the duel today, I'll extrapolate a bit on my reasoning behind a Syl and Dieno.

First, and I'm making no bones about it, I think Dieno is scum, and unless he starts providing some worthwhile analysis my mind won't be changed. Second, and this is pretty WIFOMy but it would make sense for scum to spread out all their votes. I expect one of the two left on Adam to be scum.


Just about nothing here.

On March 01 2013 03:05 Alderan wrote:
Dieno I want you dead. I think you're the scummiest person in the thread by far.

Convince me otherwise.


Nothing here,

On February 26 2013 07:13 Alderan wrote:
Here we go. I don't like Deinosore's filter in the least.

Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 09:29 Dienosore wrote:
Oh snap, early start! Hurray!

I just caught up with the thread. A few things:

- Snarf/Marv's plan to use all of our time to get a majority before dueling seems like the best and most logical path of action. No complaints there.

- Yamato, easy on the trigger amigo. I can see some merit to what you are saying, though. It might be very beneficial for the town to have someone like you who is willing to duel in order to prove alignment, as long as you follow the general town consensus. Could help to keep everyone honest...

...On the other hand, you might be mafia... in which case having you as a baseline enforcer would only result in towny deaths. Until you get cleared somehow, I think we should stick with the plan to just take our time.

- Corazon: I don't know you, therefore I don't not like you! <3 Not sure why marv is putting doubt on you already, but I generally trust him. Is there something about you I should know?


Check out this rampant pandering. If you had to set up a first post that didn't step on anyone's toes, this would be the template. Multiple topics, wishy wasy attitude, no hard stances on anything, and of course "finish with a question".

I mean, I could go post by post and show you examples of inefficient town play but I'll just show you examples from his most "productive post"

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 25 2013 16:24 Dienosore wrote:
I've cooled off a bit on Adam. If he still wants to get some, I'm here to call his bluff, but I think our time is better spent looking at a few other people right now. His level of activity is about 10x's what I have seen in past games already.

The connection between Marv and Snarf has me puzzled. I don't know what to make of it. Marv has heat coming in from a few directions, which is understandable considering how he has played so far, but Snarf on the other hand... he started off posting strong, boldly claimed towny, then kind of fell off the planet when people started agreeing with his policies. Seems fishy to just dump out like that after everything started agreeing and the spotlight was moved away.

Secondly, Oatsmaster jumped into the conversation a bit late, but the way he did it has me a little suspicious. He instantly threw doubt on Cora and started attacking Marv. He hasn't said anything super incriminating yet, but he is definitely on my 'To Watch' list.

Overall, there just really isn't enough info yet for me to be 100% about any read. I'm not even going to pretend I'm that good at mafia after two games to where I can call people out like that on day one. I definitely have a few suspicions, though I don't really see a reason to muddy up the waters with my speculation right now.



The key themes that hes trying to get across to you are as follows:
- He is not good at this game.
- No one is talking enough to know anything.
- Let's not jump to conclusions.

But here's the kicker- "I don't really see a reason to muddy up the waters with my speculation right now".
Yeah, let's not use time to discuss our scum reads.... let's keep them to yourself so you don't get any unwanted attention..... Great plan. Between this and the "my diagrams aren't ready" defense he's set himself up to lurk for the next three weeks.


Oh and don't forget..... + Show Spoiler +
On February 25 2013 16:29 Dienosore wrote:
How about yourself, Yamato? Anything worth sharing right now?


Always finish with a question.





This is ok. But you never follows up and your reasoning for your read never gets mentioned more than once again. You never even talk to dienosore about ANYTHING

On February 26 2013 13:35 Alderan wrote:

Dienosore- Got you.I fucking got you. And this ladies and gentlemen is why I do this kind of analysis and why I will be the most invaluable townie. "I've already mentioned that I trust you. If you sincerely believe that he isn't scum" That really should be all you need, but look closer, every single one of his posts have something to do with Marv, and how Marv is taking heat, and how he doesn't think that's right. Perfect cover, all he has to do is lurk around, drop a few "I <3 Marv" bombs and hope Alderan didn't catch you. Well I did. And Dienosore is scum.

This is really really weak. Dienosore played with marv in every single game so far, maybe he respects marv a lot? Who knows.
Anyway you never mention this again either. you Just keep saying KILL DIENO KILL DIENO.


About acro being a scumread. This is the only substantial post about Acro
On March 01 2013 00:45 Alderan wrote:


So this is what happened.

Acrofails first thinks both have a good chance of being scum.
Acrofails then thinks that one is "not scum"
Acrofails then assumes that the person that dueled someone he believed was scum must be a 3rd party, with no evidence.
Acrofails then urges everyone to kill them both, when all he would have to do to see if his 3p theory is right is wait until the selection period.

TLDR: Acrofails tried to kill someone he knew was not scum, someone who had initiated a duel with Kier who he believed to be scum.

In which there is no reasoning.

So why is Acro scum Alderan?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 28 2013 21:30 GMT
#1443
Wait what Alderan.
You just posted this a page earlier.

On March 01 2013 05:58 Alderan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 05:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont know, the timing was pretty decent if it was to 'save' you from the nightkill.

Alderan. Acro is under absolutely no pressure right now. He is not gonna get lynched in the near future, and as town, is a very important player.


Oats are you on drugs?

And I'm not talking about party drugs. I'm talking about sketchy drugs. Acro's actions have been pretty scummy and suspicions are gaining traction. If you can't see that you're delusional


So Acro isnt really scummy now?

On March 01 2013 06:06 Alderan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 06:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is Acro scum Alderan?

Gambit means plan, trick, ploy.


I am sick of fucking repeating myself to you. I won't do it again. Read my filter if you can't find. You're not providing any worthwhile input so I'm not going to waste my time explaining things to you.

This implies that you think that Acro is scum and you said it in your filter. Which you didnt.

Also I have a hard time looking for your second scum read. Who is it and why?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 28 2013 21:30 GMT
#1444
This implies that you think that Acro is scum and you said it in your filter. Which you didnt.

EBWOP: And you said why in your filter.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 28 2013 21:32 GMT
#1445
On March 01 2013 06:29 Alderan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 06:22 Oatsmaster wrote:

About acro being a scumread. This is the only substantial post about Acro
On March 01 2013 00:45 Alderan wrote:


So this is what happened.

Acrofails first thinks both have a good chance of being scum.
Acrofails then thinks that one is "not scum"
Acrofails then assumes that the person that dueled someone he believed was scum must be a 3rd party, with no evidence.
Acrofails then urges everyone to kill them both, when all he would have to do to see if his 3p theory is right is wait until the selection period.

TLDR: Acrofails tried to kill someone he knew was not scum, someone who had initiated a duel with Kier who he believed to be scum.

In which there is no reasoning.

So why is Acro scum Alderan?


That post is only reasoning. I'm not coming to any conclusions, I'm just stating for everyone exactly what Acro did, and how anti town it was.


That post is a SUMMERY.
Reasoning includes opinions, that chunk of words is FACTS.

You are a native english speaker? Or not?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 28 2013 21:35 GMT
#1447
I think dieno is scum too.

My apologies.

Ok I think you are town and that we should stop fighting :D
Unless Dieno flips town. Then you and acro are under serious scrutiny.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 01 2013 05:33 GMT
#1555
On March 01 2013 12:33 Dienosore wrote:

Show nested quote +

he throws this at Oats:

blah blah blah

Not only does this seem ridiculously forced, dieno hasn't done anything with it. His only mention of or interaction with Oats was asking oats to clarify something somebody else said.


I wanted to quote that because he basically says he is in favor of lynching someone he didn't think was scum. Smells super fishy to me and I'm surprised you guys just basically brushed it under the rug.


So you found something scummy, didnt ask me, didnt do ANYTHING with it and expected someone to make your case for you? What is the status of your read on me?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 01 2013 06:00 GMT
#1561
I want to see what dieno responds first before I vote for him :D
Dead men cant talk.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 01 2013 08:38 GMT
#1568
Why dont you just make the case thrawn?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 01 2013 09:05 GMT
#1572
Is that all you got from 247 posts?

Who is scum snarfs and why? You have been not involved in this game and town needs you. Unless you are scum. :D
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 01 2013 09:17 GMT
#1576
That is nowhere near an argument for me being scum.
It looks like you dont want to back down and call me townie because it draws attention to you for a '180'

##Vote: Dienosore.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 01 2013 09:26 GMT
#1580
Ok Dienosore, what do you see that is out of line every so often from me?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 01 2013 10:15 GMT
#1583
And that is a load of stuff out of context. Why? Cause you cant actually come up with a good one.

Dienosore, do you think the prodding is useful or useless?

Well, to start off with, you attacked marv, who I was pretty sure to be town, for little reason at the beginning of the game. Called him scummy and suspicous. This immediately raised my eyebrows.


Why is someone attacking your town read scummy?
Guess everyone is scum for attacking Acro then.

Then you have this that looks like you are trying to make an excuse to duel someone and be able to get away with murder
Show nested quote +



My plan is that if no lynch is gonna happen, I will duel my top scumread.
Not good because generally my reads are not very good. Maybe this game its different? I dont know.
yes I just discredited myself.
But no lynch is definitely not happening.


This is so out of context that it is funny.
What happened is that Cora hatched a plan where the scummiest person in the thread would duel a person of his liking. I didnt agree. He asked me then how would we prevent no lynch from happening. I gave this suggestion.
Is it scummy? No.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 01 2013 11:07 GMT
#1586
You are meta reading marv off his opening posts. Lol.

Kept waiting for him to slip up, but he never did, so I had no real reason to distrust him.


So you wanted a reason to call him scum huh. Who does that? scum.

Plus the guy basically just outlined the gameplan for us, handing us the keys to an easy towny victory.

Setup discussion is not alignment indicative and that seems to be what you are giving marv a town read.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 01 2013 11:38 GMT
#1592
Just reread it.

The reason why its not alignment indicative is because anybody, town or scum could do it convincingly. Its just facts not opinions.

It does not make him town because it is helpful.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 01 2013 14:56 GMT
#1598
- His filter shows little effort from him in finding out the scum, but instead he relies a lot on everyone else by asking them questions repeatedly.

Um lol? Im asking people why they think someone is scum. Scum have a hard time providing reasoning unless its a bus because they know that the person is actually town.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 01 2013 14:57 GMT
#1599
EBWOP: You are basically saying that I sheep people right? Where?
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