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On February 26 2013 14:51 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 14:47 thrawn2112 wrote:On February 26 2013 14:33 cDgCorazon wrote:
However, we can't just sit here and give the lurkers a free pass anymore. One of them is lurking while we sit around and take each other out, that bit has to be true... What do you propose that we do about it? I propose that we all keep it in mind and that people other than me remind them about it. We should go for them the next cycle because it looks like you all have your hearts set on Thrawn and Kei. I don't think we should stray away from that, but I think we should begin to attack them right after we solve this little debate.
You say "it looks like you all have your hearts set on Thrawn and Kei" as if it's not what you'd choose, but then you say "I don't think we should stray away from that." Can you explain your reads on thrawn/kei?
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Is that an answer to my question Cor? Your read is explained with "I looked back at his filter and through the arguments against him, and I see the merit in them." There's nothing in your filter about wanting to lynch kei. So for that, you are willing to put both thrawn/kei up for lynch?
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Corazon what you're saying doesn't make sense. I don't fell like you actually care whether or not I'm scum or getting lynched. You still have yet to actually explain what your suspicions of me are. All you've said is that you agree with some of the stuff other people have said. And you're willing to let me chose who to duel.... while having this really weak and unsubstantiated read on me... while implying that you'd actually rather lynch someone else...
Can you give explanations for your reads on thrawn/kei?
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On February 26 2013 15:12 Keirathi wrote:
EBWOP: That's why it came across as fake to me. Town doesn't benefit from your stance at all (unless you want to argue that you are more likely town than yamato), only you do.
keir I feel like this point isn't going to go anywhere... what else makes you think adam is scum?
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Corazon. If your read on me is only slightly scummy then why are you willing to let thrawn vs x random player be the only two lynch candidates?
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I think everyone should vote as if we were doing a normal lynch like
##Vote: Keirathi
it'll make the thread a lot more readable now and after the lynch. tbh we probably should have done it starting in the night phase
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idk. i'm just having a hard time figuring out who wants who to die. people at least need to say who they want to lynch, or who they would duel if they were chosen to duel
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i will but I want to wait the whole cycle first
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On February 26 2013 16:03 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, I'm going to sleep. I'll probably be back around lunch tomorrow while I'm on my lunch break, then gone for a few more hours.
I'd appreciate it if someone could look at my points about Adam and give some comments other than "lol bad". Tell me why. Maybe I'm just paranoid. I mean, at least he did take some kind of stance, and he's right, it was against the grain and I would normally give a few townie points for that. I'm just failing to see how, in this particular instance, his stance is beneficial to town, because I can't really predict any scenario in which he'll have to back it up.
The problem is that it doesn't matter if I grant you the point or not... it's a pretty small piece of evidence to base an entire scum read on. I could see it being responsible for maybe 10% worth of a scum read. I'm much more interested in anything else you have to say.
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keir there's a strong chance that we might be dueling.... how do you feel about that? i think we should hold hands and tell each other why we want to shoot each other
I say that you are not scumhunting. Your desire to duel me is based on a meta read. Is there anything else? Does the meta read still apply? You have been carrying on about this point against adam and as I've already said, I don't think much can be gained from discussing it any further. Overall your suspicions are weak. Can you give me a good explanation of why you are willing to duel me? If it wasn't you dueling me, who else would you want to be a duelist?
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##Vote: Keirathi
adam mind explaining why you had to call for the duel right now?
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yams the tone of that post pretty clearly suggests that you want somebody to call a duel right then.
can you explain keir's townie responses to your prods that you're talking about?
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On February 26 2013 17:46 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 16:37 Keirathi wrote:On February 26 2013 16:23 yamato77 wrote:
To look townie later in the game?
I don't see it. Just because he won't have to back it up doesn't mean it doesn't have town motivations.
And as I asked earlier, if this is your argument, why dies it apply to him and not me ? Not necessarily to look townie later, but that he gets to use the argument "Look guys, Im town because I did something abnormal!" The difference between you and him is that you aren't in here making that argument for yourself to buy town cred. Other people have made it for you. If someone else had said "I think Adam is probably town because he was willing to propose his own unique idea rather than just blending into the town sentiment" I would have probably agreed with them. But for Adam himself to say it triggers my paranoia reflex.
is this the townie response? he buddies you and puts words into adam's mouth. (afaik adam never actually directly tried using that logic to give himself townie points... there is only keir's accusation that that was what happened)
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adam where are you going with this back and forth with yamato? to convince him that you're town? do you think he's scum?
Also I'd like you to do a write up of why you think everyone should vote for keirathi. You pushed Dieno all game so I need to know why you dueled kei and not dino
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syl why isn't keir scummy to you? what's so surprising about people wanting to lynch him?
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so there is a lot of talk about what adam has done, and adam's meta, but everyone is brushing over talking about keir. remember that regardless of how you rate his point against adam.... that point is all he's talked about the whole game. he's also said that thrawn's scum because of meta... not a very hard statement to make. he has done absolutely nothing all game yet somehow lots of you have townreads on him? if you are one of the people who have a town read an keir, pls explain
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i might switch to double lynch if some of the adam voters will too
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sometimes it makes stuff easier to understand
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acro what are you talking about? idk what you're asking
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I thought it was stupid, but I think he is way more likely to be town than keir. What I think is scummy about adam has nothing to do with the duel, it's how his read on dino went away and the way he's been acting since he called the duel. But townies can change their minds and do crazy stuff like that and tbh I was sorta expecting someone to call out an early duel. So no, not that surprising. I can see the arguments for adam being scum. But I do not see the arguments for keir to be town.
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