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On February 25 2013 11:43 yamato77 wrote:
Marv, what do you think of Hapa?
Somewhat suspicious. Witness:
On February 25 2013 11:38 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 11:34 iamperfection wrote:On February 25 2013 11:30 Hapahauli wrote:On February 25 2013 11:25 iamperfection wrote:On February 25 2013 11:22 Hapahauli wrote:On February 25 2013 11:06 iamperfection wrote:On February 25 2013 11:03 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Yamato + Cora
Can you both take a breather and calmly explain who your scumreads are and why? Both of you are at the throat of every person who accuses you, and I can't keep track of it for the life of me. hey you ive been looking at you. you haven't said a god damn thing yet (you can check your filter its all policy and useless stuff) you have just kind of been here with your pretty looking posts and your playing peace keeper why you not putting anything original in the thread you scum dog? I can finally get to work since players not named Marv, Yamato, or Corazon are finally starting to post. As for you, what the hell have you done that's useful? I see a lot of random name-dropping and not much of substance. You've championed "Yamato is Town, I will defend him 'till the end," yet everything else in your filter is completely unexplained and or nonsensical. Case in point: On February 25 2013 10:12 iamperfection wrote:On February 25 2013 10:07 marvellosity wrote:
Snarfs is not scummier than thrawn after that abomination of a post. Dunno what you're smoking, iamp he attacked me means he is probably town since i hadn't mentioned him at all. scum thrawn should no better than to attack me On February 25 2013 10:28 iamperfection wrote:
the answer is snarfs or dino man corazon. did you find dino and snarfs entry to be town entrances?????????????? as for the thrawn thing we have history bro and i dont think he is stupid. How the fuck are those first-posts allignment indicative? Thrawn read still makes zero sense given that he gave you a scumread when you'd made like 2 inconsequential posts in several hours. yo bro you can question my logic all you want. im just telling you what i think i caught thrawn in our last game together. he attacked me after lurking i dont think as scum he would be stupid enough to go after me again. but if this is all your going to be doing hapa your scum in my eyes. Naw man. This game is coming way too easily to you right now. Especially the bolded: not once have you explained why you think those posts (by Snarf and Dieno) are scummy. You just name-drop and move on. You're telling us plenty of what you think, but nothing about why you think so. Y u so scummy iamp?
On February 25 2013 10:05 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 03:06 Snarfs wrote:
Ahhh yesss!! Finally a game where I'm not mafia! It's been too long. Far too long.
Obvious rule number 1: no one calls for a duel unless we have a majority of the thread agreeing on it.
Obvious rule number 2: we use as much of the day as possible before calling for duels.
Anyone ignoring rules 1 or 2 should be put under extreme scrutiny for acting against town goals. this guy is the scummiest guy in the game so far in my view says he is excited he is town then proceeds to do nothing discuss.
iamp hasn't posted so much that Hapa should be missing that iamp has in fact commented on why he thought Snarfs was suspicious.
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On February 25 2013 11:52 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 11:49 marvellosity wrote:On February 25 2013 11:43 yamato77 wrote:
Marv, what do you think of Hapa? Somewhat suspicious. Witness: On February 25 2013 11:38 Hapahauli wrote:On February 25 2013 11:34 iamperfection wrote:On February 25 2013 11:30 Hapahauli wrote:On February 25 2013 11:25 iamperfection wrote:On February 25 2013 11:22 Hapahauli wrote:On February 25 2013 11:06 iamperfection wrote:On February 25 2013 11:03 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Yamato + Cora
Can you both take a breather and calmly explain who your scumreads are and why? Both of you are at the throat of every person who accuses you, and I can't keep track of it for the life of me. hey you ive been looking at you. you haven't said a god damn thing yet (you can check your filter its all policy and useless stuff) you have just kind of been here with your pretty looking posts and your playing peace keeper why you not putting anything original in the thread you scum dog? the fact remains that you basically haven't done anything this game except attack iamp, and you've done so under false pretenses. I have no real reason to think of you as town right now I can finally get to work since players not named Marv, Yamato, or Corazon are finally starting to post. As for you, what the hell have you done that's useful? I see a lot of random name-dropping and not much of substance. You've championed "Yamato is Town, I will defend him 'till the end," yet everything else in your filter is completely unexplained and or nonsensical. Case in point: On February 25 2013 10:12 iamperfection wrote:On February 25 2013 10:07 marvellosity wrote:
Snarfs is not scummier than thrawn after that abomination of a post. Dunno what you're smoking, iamp he attacked me means he is probably town since i hadn't mentioned him at all. scum thrawn should no better than to attack me On February 25 2013 10:28 iamperfection wrote:
the answer is snarfs or dino man corazon. did you find dino and snarfs entry to be town entrances?????????????? as for the thrawn thing we have history bro and i dont think he is stupid. How the fuck are those first-posts allignment indicative? Thrawn read still makes zero sense given that he gave you a scumread when you'd made like 2 inconsequential posts in several hours. yo bro you can question my logic all you want. im just telling you what i think i caught thrawn in our last game together. he attacked me after lurking i dont think as scum he would be stupid enough to go after me again. but if this is all your going to be doing hapa your scum in my eyes. Naw man. This game is coming way too easily to you right now. Especially the bolded: not once have you explained why you think those posts (by Snarf and Dieno) are scummy. You just name-drop and move on. You're telling us plenty of what you think, but nothing about why you think so. Y u so scummy iamp? On February 25 2013 10:05 iamperfection wrote:On February 25 2013 03:06 Snarfs wrote:
Ahhh yesss!! Finally a game where I'm not mafia! It's been too long. Far too long.
Obvious rule number 1: no one calls for a duel unless we have a majority of the thread agreeing on it.
Obvious rule number 2: we use as much of the day as possible before calling for duels.
Anyone ignoring rules 1 or 2 should be put under extreme scrutiny for acting against town goals. this guy is the scummiest guy in the game so far in my view says he is excited he is town then proceeds to do nothing discuss. iamp hasn't posted so much that Hapa should be missing that iamp has in fact commented on why he thought Snarfs was suspicious. Oh come on Marv. I miss shit like that all the time as town and you know it.
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no idea how i fucked that one up
On February 25 2013 11:52 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 11:49 marvellosity wrote:On February 25 2013 11:43 yamato77 wrote:
Marv, what do you think of Hapa? Somewhat suspicious. Witness: On February 25 2013 11:38 Hapahauli wrote:On February 25 2013 11:34 iamperfection wrote:On February 25 2013 11:30 Hapahauli wrote:On February 25 2013 11:25 iamperfection wrote:On February 25 2013 11:22 Hapahauli wrote:On February 25 2013 11:06 iamperfection wrote:On February 25 2013 11:03 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Yamato + Cora
Can you both take a breather and calmly explain who your scumreads are and why? Both of you are at the throat of every person who accuses you, and I can't keep track of it for the life of me. hey you ive been looking at you. you haven't said a god damn thing yet (you can check your filter its all policy and useless stuff) you have just kind of been here with your pretty looking posts and your playing peace keeper why you not putting anything original in the thread you scum dog? I can finally get to work since players not named Marv, Yamato, or Corazon are finally starting to post. As for you, what the hell have you done that's useful? I see a lot of random name-dropping and not much of substance. You've championed "Yamato is Town, I will defend him 'till the end," yet everything else in your filter is completely unexplained and or nonsensical. Case in point: On February 25 2013 10:12 iamperfection wrote:On February 25 2013 10:07 marvellosity wrote:
Snarfs is not scummier than thrawn after that abomination of a post. Dunno what you're smoking, iamp he attacked me means he is probably town since i hadn't mentioned him at all. scum thrawn should no better than to attack me On February 25 2013 10:28 iamperfection wrote:
the answer is snarfs or dino man corazon. did you find dino and snarfs entry to be town entrances?????????????? as for the thrawn thing we have history bro and i dont think he is stupid. How the fuck are those first-posts allignment indicative? Thrawn read still makes zero sense given that he gave you a scumread when you'd made like 2 inconsequential posts in several hours. yo bro you can question my logic all you want. im just telling you what i think i caught thrawn in our last game together. he attacked me after lurking i dont think as scum he would be stupid enough to go after me again. but if this is all your going to be doing hapa your scum in my eyes. Naw man. This game is coming way too easily to you right now. Especially the bolded: not once have you explained why you think those posts (by Snarf and Dieno) are scummy. You just name-drop and move on. You're telling us plenty of what you think, but nothing about why you think so. Y u so scummy iamp? On February 25 2013 10:05 iamperfection wrote:On February 25 2013 03:06 Snarfs wrote:
Ahhh yesss!! Finally a game where I'm not mafia! It's been too long. Far too long.
Obvious rule number 1: no one calls for a duel unless we have a majority of the thread agreeing on it.
Obvious rule number 2: we use as much of the day as possible before calling for duels.
Anyone ignoring rules 1 or 2 should be put under extreme scrutiny for acting against town goals. this guy is the scummiest guy in the game so far in my view says he is excited he is town then proceeds to do nothing discuss. iamp hasn't posted so much that Hapa should be missing that iamp has in fact commented on why he thought Snarfs was suspicious. Oh come on Marv. I miss shit like that all the time as town and you know it.
the fact remains that you basically haven't done anything this game except attack iamp, and you've done so under false pretenses. I have no real reason to think of you as town right now
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that's not what wishy washy means, and it isn't how anyone else will use it either. I pretty much agree with Adam's analysis and at the moment Dieno would be one of my two duelists.
I'm not at all convinced with this iamp thing.
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On February 25 2013 12:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Marv, what do you see that is different from Dieno in Parallel and Dieno here?
the large terrible wishy washy post...
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More interesting Dieno. So you think Adam is mafia then? What if I told you that I find that possibility quite unlikely at the moment?
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I don't agree, thrawn, that that's the false dichotomy Acro is presenting, it's one you're inferring but not one I read into his posts. Simply enough if two people have different reads on someone both have played with regularly, then it's good to look into why the reads are different. It *could* imply alignment differences, but not necessarily.
I'm having problems with your iamp read myself as I don't agree with it, and I've probably played with iamp most of all. I'm not particularly seeing much right now that I'd expect to see from a scum iamp.
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On February 25 2013 16:24 Dienosore wrote:
The connection between Marv and Snarf has me puzzled. I don't know what to make of it. Marv has heat coming in from a few directions, which is understandable considering how he has played so far, but Snarf on the other hand... he started off posting strong, boldly claimed towny, then kind of fell off the planet when people started agreeing with his policies. Seems fishy to just dump out like that after everything started agreeing and the spotlight was moved away.
You need to explain some of this, Dieno. Why is it 'understandable' based on how I've played so far? What makes you think so?
And where is this mysterious marv-Snarfs connection coming from?
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Pointing out that you're talking drivel isn't defending me, Oats.
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so Acro, what do you make of hapa so far?
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On February 25 2013 22:32 Acrofales wrote:
He *might* be scum, but it'll take a lot more for me to have anything more than a slight suspicion. The things that stand out:
1. His read on Iamp is a bit weird, because I found Iamp's playstyle fairly consistent throughout the game and the one post that suddenly made him have a town read instead of suspecting Iamp was just a continuation from his former playstyle.
2. His defense of Snarfs, because his "post seemed genuine and excited". I don't think anybody is taking offense to Snarfs first post, which I agree sounded genuine and excited. The problem is that if Snarfs was so excited to play, where is he? I would have expected Hapa to understand that and therefore this defense is strange.
But I don't agree with your point that missing the post by Iamp about Snarfs is scummy. Missing a post is just something that happens.
ya I agree on both points. The interesting/funny/odd thing is this - in Mario Mafia, Hapa was scum, iamp was town, and Hapa accused iamp of being scum. I pretty much hard-defended iamp, and in any case the end result of the episode was this:
On November 14 2012 08:39 Hapahauli wrote:
@iamp
##Unvote
From your reactions so far, you're probably town. The "I don't give a fuck" thing has been on full display for the last few hours, and that meta read hasn't been wrong on you yet.
In other words, it's a very similar mirror. It's actually quite bemusing because it seems almost ludicrous that a scum-Hapa would fall into exactly the same trap again, and yet as you note, iamp's playstyle didn't really change. Like, I can easily grab a couple of quotes from the first page of iamp's filter with the same attitude as Hapa claimed made him change his read.
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So... it looks bad because it looks good? O.o
I already said I found Hapa suspicious last night, Oats... and maybe, just maybe, because Acro hadn't really said much about Hapa, I wanted to know where he stood.
:OOOOO
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On February 25 2013 23:04 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, Oats seems to be playing very different from his scumgame in LIX.
Marv, what do you think of Oats?
I agree with your meta observation. I see no reason for Oats to be mafia at the moment.
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On February 25 2013 23:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
Well marv your focus on Hapa's filter was his read on Iamp and the fact that he missed a post by him, not the things that Acro pointed out. Acro doesnt think that missing a post is scummy, you ignore it and agree with him on his other points.
Sheep much?
it wasn't a focus, it was just an example. I said to Hapa last night "I have no reason to think you're town atm" (or words to that effect), and his attitude on iamp, Snarfs is part of that.
You should work out whether you agree or disagree with these things about Hapa and why, rather than picking at me for how/when I've done things.
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On February 25 2013 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
So if I agree that hapa is scummy, what does that mean about my reads on you and Acro?
And If I think that hapa is town, what does it mean about my reads on you and Acro?
Why don't you tell me, dear? Do you agree with what's been said about Hapa or not?
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there's 5 players by my count who haven't really started playing the game yet. It's an unfortunately high percentage.
snarfs/kei/sylencia/alderan/zare
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On February 26 2013 00:13 cDgCorazon wrote:
Hey guys, just caught up on reading the last two pages. There are a couple things I want to point out:
1. Zare is always inactive Sundays. He should (hopefully) be joining us today after reading over the thread.
2. @Oats, why did you just attack Iamp for giving town reads when Yamato gave 5-6 of them a couple of pages ago? If you're going to call one person out for a behavior, you need to call everyone out who exhibits that behavior.
3. When I get home from school (in a few hours), I am going to re-read the pages with the whole go around between the TL veterans (basically everyone but the lurkers, me, Adam, Yamato, and Dieno). It's hard to follow because you guys just sit around and call each other scum/town based on each other's metas, which in all honesty is kind of pointless. Metas can change at any point, and players can use their meta from one side or another to conscientiously give others a town read based on their meta. Don't read too much into them (which I'm afraid you guys are doing right now). I'm not saying that all of it has been meta talk, but I've seen way too much meta talk thrown around.
are you seriously telling me how to use meta? mind = blown
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On February 26 2013 00:55 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 23:48 marvellosity wrote:
there's 5 players by my count who haven't really started playing the game yet. It's an unfortunately high percentage.
snarfs/kei/sylencia/alderan/zare never seen kier not play before alderan has done this this before he was scum you actually replaced him.
lol! I hadn't even realised that was him.
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I'm keener to hear your non-Oats related thoughts, zare.
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ok zare. I agree with you that Sylencia's posting while he was here was at best pointless. Honestly I was kinda hoping no-one would mention him and we could see how he came back to the thread without any pressure on him ;p
I'm not so sure about thrawn atm, I don't like his unexplained iamp read, although he's been somewhat more active than I expect from a scum-thrawn, although at the moment that's a very weak tell I'm applying (it's borderline)
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