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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 00:38 GMT
#1660
On March 02 2013 09:35 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 09:27 Acrofales wrote:
Cora, move on. Everybody else has. Shit gets reevaluated all the time. Lets assume Dieno flips scum. You think Syl is also scum. That leaves one more. Who is the last scum?


Are we also assuming there is 4 scum?

For the moment I am.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 01:27 GMT
#1662
On March 02 2013 09:40 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 09:38 Acrofales wrote:
On March 02 2013 09:35 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 02 2013 09:27 Acrofales wrote:
Cora, move on. Everybody else has. Shit gets reevaluated all the time. Lets assume Dieno flips scum. You think Syl is also scum. That leaves one more. Who is the last scum?


Are we also assuming there is 4 scum?

For the moment I am.


Well Zare is someone I've grouped in with Sylencia and Dieno when it comes to play (as I've said before), but I feel like I need to reevaluate everyone else before I go on the record with any other suspicions. It would be too easy if all the scum were playing terrible games.

Why is Zare and his 5-page filter grouped in with the people lurking so hard you can't get a read on them (and I'd say Dieno is readable, it's just a scum read)?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 02:15 GMT
#1668
This thread is dead and drifting. Lets kill Dieno and move on.

##vote Dienosore
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 02:18 GMT
#1671
That should be 6. Lets see the flip.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 04:08 GMT
#1678
Awesome! GJ guys.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 04:10 GMT
#1680
Thrawn, why do you think Syl is scum, now that Dieno has flipped red? You seriously think that was a bus?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 04:11 GMT
#1682
And yeah, Dieno. We still love you for your maps. Cutest scum ever!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 04:39 GMT
#1690
On March 02 2013 13:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yes he is scummy, but is he scum?

I dont think that scum wouldve felt that way. At all.

Think about it. If you were in the scumteam. You woud think of, hey lets put up our 2 scummier players and let the scummiest one initiate the duel. Hopefully they dont double lynch or still think that Syl is scummy after it.

Doesnt make sense right?

With probably half the scum team gone, association cases are valid.

Unless Yamato is scum and that batshit insane duel at dawn stunt was his way of trying to swing the duel away from them. But that's pretty wild speculation. I'm going with Syl lurky town for now.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 04:45 GMT
#1693
Fixing that for you, thrawn:

Town

adam, Thrawn, Aldeeran, Oats, Corazon, Syl

WTF

Hapa, Snarfs, yamato

Mafia

zare


Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 04:54 GMT
#1700
The way that scenario would have played out if they were both scum:

Syl: meh, my top scumread is Cora, I'd rather duel him.
Dieno: meh, my top scumread is Oats, I'd rather duel him.
Long time of nothing, until one of them duels their top scumread, or Yamato gets triggerhappy and duels me.

Instead, Dieno jumped in fairly early in the 24 hours to duel Syl. He clearly thought this had some point. I don't see that point being to bus his buddy.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 04:58 GMT
#1707
Oats, do you think Thrawn is scum?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 05:06 GMT
#1713
On March 02 2013 13:59 cDgCorazon wrote:
Syl gives up as town what makes you think he wouldn't give up as scum?

Answer me this: why, as scum, would you duel each other early on. That shit is a last resort. Scum don't willingly set out to murder each other. It is an assinine assumption.

If they had waited:

1. Triggerhappy Yamato might have dueled Acro
2. Yamato might have pressured Acro into dueling Dieno
3. Triggerhappy Adam might have gotten impatient and dueled either one of them.

All 3 of these scenarios give scum a way out, or at worst a 1-1 trade. I also thought the bus scenario made sense, but it really really doesn't.

Also, there is nothing in Syl's filter that screams scum. It's all just a lurky mess. I have played with plenty of town lurkers. You need external help to figure out whether lurkers are scum or town. In this case, the mechanics give us a fairly clear signal he's town. Stop tunneling him and give him a chance.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 05:44 GMT
#1718
Cora: and was town wrong? Did we flail about mislynching townies because we didn't listen to your Syl read? No. We lynched two scum.

Even if Syl IS scum, you need to find at least one other one. There's no way a 15-player game as only 3 scum.

I agree with thrawn: until we start flailing around mislynching townies, there is no reason to lynch Syl.

Let other people weigh in on it. So far your town coach and the host of last game, which you LOST because you mistakenly saw Syl as scum, have both said to wait it out. Unless you think we're a 5man scumteam having you on, that is at least 1 townie between us. I'm fairly certain Adam, one of the driving forces behind both lynches so far, will be onboard with this. Why s
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 05:44 GMT
#1719
EBWOP: Why so hasty?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 05:47 GMT
#1721
Lets all help Cora's ego along a bit:

I hereby solemnly pledge that if you prematurely duel Syl, I will vote for you.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 05:55 GMT
#1727
Hapa is not reading the thread... like... at all. He just threw those quotes together from thrawn without even looking at the other posts thrawn made.

Hapa scum?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 05:56 GMT
#1728
On March 02 2013 14:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Also, I think Cora is town.

He spent all of yesterday taking an extremely unpopular opinion against everyone else in the thread. It should be clear from yesterday that Dieno was bussed, and Cora instead attracted as much attention to himself as possible by voting Syl.

Yeah, that opinion has been voiced about 50 times now.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 05:57 GMT
#1730
On March 02 2013 14:51 cDgCorazon wrote:
There's a way out, gentlemen. Put Syl up in a duel with someone else, and I won't pull the trigger. That's the deal.

And then when we lynch that someone else you will be ranting and railing the next day. Just stow away your ego and find the 4th scum.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 06:03 GMT
#1733
Okay, Hapa. Is Sylencia scum?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 02 2013 06:12 GMT
#1735
On March 02 2013 15:06 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 15:03 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, Hapa. Is Sylencia scum?


Probably not. I agree with Adam's analysis of things, and given the types of players that Syl/Dieno are, I can't really see them doing something that brave as a scum-pair.


So your reasoning for thrawn being scum is that he hammered his scumbuddy instead of hoping for a 1-1 trade? And just so he could hammer before someone else did, which was bound to happen anyway?
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