Also, Adam, you know my scumplay. You were in a team with me. You should know better than to think I would hard defend an opening post like THAT from a scumbuddy.

Acrofales

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February 28 2013 23:16 GMT

#1493

So I bussed Keirathi wayyy before it was necessary and hard defended Dieno's scummy posts. You really think I am that bad of a scum player?

Acrofales

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February 28 2013 23:20 GMT

#1494

You may be a 3P, but you have swing in the town. I prefer to correct your deluded ideas.

Acrofales

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February 28 2013 23:21 GMT

#1495

I'm taking a break. Hope you come to your senses in the meantime.

Acrofales

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March 01 2013 01:19 GMT

#1516

Waiting for Dieno's case...

Acrofales

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March 01 2013 01:19 GMT

#1517

Lol. Ninja'd.

Acrofales

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March 01 2013 01:21 GMT

#1519

@Dieno: is Syl your strongest scumread?

Acrofales

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March 01 2013 01:32 GMT

#1522

On March 01 2013 10:25 thrawn2112 wrote:

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i'm worried that most people are going to go for this double lynch thing and not commit to picking either side. Do you really think that it's most likely that both of them are scum? If you think there's even a small chance of them having different alignments then it's beneficial to know which one the thread wants to lynch. it's much easier for scum to justify a vote later on in the cycle as opposed to right now.

and if you're worried about dieno and syl not feeling pressured if we don't immediately go for double lynch.... don't worry about it. i'm sure they know exactly what position they're in.

Both scum should not be ruled out entirely. They were under significant pressure to duel each other and they know that this way they *might* have an opportunity for one of them to clear his name. It's a risk, but they were almost certainly both going to end up on the chopping block anyway (one today, other tomorrow). This way it can maybe work in their favour.

Anyway, I'll assess them individually, rather than as an either/or pair. It's not the same situation as Adam/Keir, where Adam could have picked virtually anybody to duel.

Acrofales

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March 01 2013 01:43 GMT

#1527

So when did Sylencia become your top scum read? The first time you even mention Sylencia is this cycle... when you were asked to duel him.

Acrofales

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March 01 2013 02:00 GMT

#1531

Thrawn: what do you hope to accomplish by telling him what to do?

Acrofales

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March 01 2013 02:04 GMT

#1533

Well, stop giving him recipes to appear townie. He can figure it out for himself. Ask him questions about things you're unclear on. But telling him what to do is stupid.

Acrofales

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March 01 2013 02:08 GMT

#1534

K, given Dieno's case some consideration and I actually like it. I had dismissed that whole Cora/Syl spat, but that post about blues IS weird.

Diving back into Sylencia's filter again.

Acrofales

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March 01 2013 02:26 GMT

#1537

On March 01 2013 11:18 thrawn2112 wrote:

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dienosore completely misrepresented what syl was saying. dieno was saying that syl was looking for blues to claim or something, right? syl was referring to blues not being scared to enter duels:

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Yeah, you're right. Never mind then.

Acrofales

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March 01 2013 02:26 GMT

#1538

Anyway, I have a ferocious headache. I'm going to bed.

Acrofales

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March 01 2013 02:32 GMT

#1539

Before I go to bed, there's one thing that I thought of for the redacting of the scum wincon: there might be two scumteams. Just a theory for now, but it's one of the few reasons I can think of for redacting the wincon.

Acrofales

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March 01 2013 08:22 GMT

#1566

This is ridiculous: it's 5 AM here and I just woke up for no good reason, except that I wanted to catch up on the thread (and I was cold, but I couldn't get back to sleep because I wanted to catch up on the thread).

Rant off.

Adam is making way too much sense this game. I retract my 3P suspicions. It's still possible he's taking a page from my CT playbook, but I am going to follow the advice I should have taken ages ago. KISS: Adam is town. Also, there's only one scumteam due to missing KP.

Adam's explanation for why only one of Dieno and Syl is scum is also making sense. Not quite sure whom yet. Dieno took all that time I was asleep and didn't produce a single read. His main scumspect has switched from Oats, to Cora, to Syl for what appears to be no real reason.

On the other hand, Syl hasn't done anything at all either. Atm I'd lean towards lynching Dieno. Consider this a vote on him for now. However, I am not fully convinced and we have plenty of time. Lets give it a bit more.

Acrofales

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March 01 2013 08:48 GMT

#1569

@Adam: Syl just got done in a game where Cora was "useful" to scum, because he was screwing up any town atmosphere by generally being very angry. He comes into this game and the first thing he does is try to make Cora angry. So do I think a scum Syl would do that? It's possible. It's also possible Syl was just angry at Cora and made a stupid post.

@thrawn: how do you distinguish between 34 and 37. Make a meta case and I'll see if I agree. I've been trying to see the things that really stand out in his scumplay compared to his townplay and don't see anything, except that in 37 he became far more townie when under pressure.

Acrofales

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March 01 2013 09:23 GMT

#1579

@Snarfs: Yamato gives a hypothetical for why my actions this game can be explained as scum. However, here is a town explanation:

I refused to believe Adam would do something that stupid as town, so I first saw him as scum, and later as a 3P to explain it. I was (probably) wrong.

Now tell me why Yamato's explanation makes more sense and what in my filter actually pushes a scum agenda, rather than a town one.

That, and a ridiculously high standard for my D1 reads are all I have found in anybody's suspicion of me.