Themed Game Mafia

On February 09 2013 18:09 Blazinghand wrote:
I think wbg is also talking about people who don't play the game seriously but instead just lean on roles when playing. When I make a themed game like Witchcraft Mafia, I try to keep the underlying setup and roles as vanilla and straightforward as possible. Of course, you get games like Age of Empires in which there isn't really scumhunting,

On February 10 2013 17:14 Mocsta wrote:
I actually assumed he was talking about Mr.CC

Well look its simple
2game cap.

I would prefer this game over the other second game.

But if its a dog act to choose one over the other, I shall stay in the other.

Im not fussed either way.

On February 12 2013 12:45 gonzaw wrote:
I better not see any "almost standard" role here, like I saw in some previous PTP.

If your role doesn't need you to post in tongues in the thread to summon Cthulhu so you can gain +1 Dexterity to kill your enemies all the while you need to seduce a certain player, then don't even bother making a role in the first place
(if you need to seduce a player I volunteer!)

On February 13 2013 10:32 randombum wrote:
Hi, I'm not scum.

On February 13 2013 13:52 randombum wrote:
I'm not too sure I buy your case BH. If you read Oats statement from the point of view where its already decided by town to pick instant majority, (which I think this town has.) then his reasoning makes sense. He lists the first negative thing to come to mind and then says a little bit more, but basically he says its worse and dismisses it.

Also a lot of your posts can be considered spammy/troll

-snip-

While not necessarily trollish in itself you were feeding/playing along with the trolls


All in all however, I thank you for generating discussion.

On February 13 2013 14:21 iamperfection wrote:
also top scum read is marv he seems bored already and had nothing useful to say.

On February 13 2013 21:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
Also also, marv is scum.

On February 13 2013 23:30 iamperfection wrote:
although why marv is trying to impersonate chezinu right now i dont understand

same goes for krumi talking in code for some reason.

On February 13 2013 23:40 iamperfection wrote:

so whats your plan this game?

you must have one by now no?

On February 13 2013 22:17 marvellosity wrote:

I am enjoying my cigar, enjoying the discourse, and assimilating the knowledge it gives me.

On February 13 2013 23:35 marvellosity wrote:


Before I entered this establishment, I talked to at least one gentleman, perhaps two, regarding my intentions to enjoy my bourbon and cigars here, as well as fulfilling my traditional duties of expelling the uncouth. Perhaps I will be vouched for, perhaps not. Nonetheless, we will escort unseemly gentlemen from the premises after due relaxation.

On February 13 2013 22:08 marvellosity wrote:


Hello sir, I greet you most gracefully to this fine establishment. Which liquor would you like to partake in? May I take your coat? Do you mean to amuse us with your delightful wit and piercing discourse, or merely lavish praise on others as a method of ingratiating yourself?

---

Let me sit you fine fellows down, and relate to you a story. There was once upon a time a young carefree lady, named Mandy Moats. She tittered and giggled, and would not cook in the kitchen as a proper lady would. Truly, she distanced herself from her local community of upstanding citizens, and they looked upon her ways and called her a witch! But when she was thrown in the lake, she drowned and did not float - she was not a witch. Let us not jump to hasty conclusions once again, fine sirs.

On February 13 2013 23:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
Would prefer to lynch marv though.

On February 13 2013 23:59 Dandel Ion wrote:

You are saying I am wrong now because I was wrong last time.

Which is suboptimal reasoning at best, considering that were you town, you would think I am wrong because you'd be town this game.

Instead, you have to invoke the memory of days past.

That is a mindset one may only have when strolling through the red light districts.

On February 13 2013 21:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
Also also, marv is scum.

On February 13 2013 23:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
Would prefer to lynch marv though.

On February 14 2013 00:16 iamperfection wrote:
marv was krumi one of the guys you talked to pregame about trolling all day?

I find his posts devoid of any actual content.
Says stuff is weird but doesn't bother to say if they are alignment indicative at all.

im thinking scum on him

On February 14 2013 00:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
So austin made a really weird post defending me/dandel.

Any thoughts?

On February 14 2013 00:21 austinmcc wrote:
I don't know why you're so concerned with this, but you don't need to be. It's early and there's not a massive wagon on you.

The number of people with town/scum reads on you does not determine your alignment. You don't magically become town because there are townreads on you. Dandel Ion doesn't seem to be winking you out of existence because of his scum read. So for now, reads on you aren't that important and shouldn't be eating up thread space like this.

On January 09 2012 15:49 Incognito wrote:
[*]Priority #1: Establishing Your Innocence

On February 14 2013 04:57 gonzaw wrote:
Kay im back

I would like to kill randombum today. Stuff he posted seemed too "neutral" and shit, specially that "wall of text" about BH.

Other than that maybe kill BH, he's being his usual trolly scum self, specially with that bad case on Oats.

On February 14 2013 05:09 gonzaw wrote:


I skimmed the game and those are my first impressions.
Everything else is null and some pointless discussions.

marv, is this thing of yours a post restriction or are you doing it intentionally?

On February 14 2013 23:12 iamperfection wrote:
the wagon of justice feels better about kurumi's contributions(aggressiveness and speaking some sense)

the wagon of justice now puts its full weight behind a stutters lynch.
lets see if we can make him "catch up ".

## vote stutters

On January 30 2013 05:11 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
Oh, and I don't make too much of Stutters yet. He kinda seemed interested in the posts that he has made. And



he does this not-following up shit all the time in any game.

On February 14 2013 01:00 Hassybaby wrote:
Good afternoon gentlemen, I hope you're all well

I've been reading everything while at my internship, and this comment caught my eye:



Justify this, because that's the last thing that a townie should be worried about imo

On February 14 2013 02:09 Hassybaby wrote:


Dammit Keir, I wanted him to answer. Oh well...

On February 14 2013 02:57 Hassybaby wrote:
That's cool. I haven't played with Dandel before and wanted to get his thought process. Felt like an easy way to get it

Anywho, it's irrelevant now. For the record, I'm also voting instant majority and...well I'll wait a bit about the other thing. May need your guys' help with something to do with my role

On February 14 2013 03:19 Keirathi wrote:

Right, I agree that Dandel hasn't done much towards proving his innocence if he does in fact believe that that should be your #1 priority as a townie. But I was only commenting on Hassy's statement, not whether Dandel was "practicing what he preached".

On February 15 2013 00:34 iamperfection wrote:
so stutters has a meta where he doesn't do anything?

pretty useful meta if he were scum.
i say we force him to contribute or he should die a most horrible death.

On February 15 2013 00:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Marv, you are saying
+ Show Spoiler +
wrong.
Get it right next time :D

On February 15 2013 00:51 iamperfection wrote:
referring to dandel in that post

On February 15 2013 01:13 iamperfection wrote:
1 to 10 marv

how confident are you in hasbaby

On February 15 2013 01:41 Keirathi wrote:
Speaking of which:

##Vote: Oatsmaster

This is the second time you've made a bullshit "read" with terrible reasoning. If you were town, you would be voting/giving town reads for real reasons, not something you just made up that sounded good.

Also, while I'm on the subject of Oats, a question for Marv:

(From the post-game of LVIII)


So why is it that when Oats does this same thing (asking irrelevent questions that serve no direction or purpose), you give Oats a town read?

On February 15 2013 01:36 austinmcc wrote:
Maaaaaaaan, Keirathi beating people to comments again. I was trying to find a post of Hassy's in chaos to get a filter

I do remember Hassy being more active there, which isn't hard, but mainly remember him making some comments concerning current thread events that were in line with what I was thinking. Especially D1, there was a lot of spam about how we should vote to swap/lynch that game, and he made a few posts that just felt thought out concerning what he preferred.

Here, there's an absence of that entirely. You can summarize his posts in 2 bullet points basically, and one of those is just that he seems to have something concerning his role that he wants to discuss at an unknown time in the future.

On February 15 2013 02:12 austinmcc wrote:
ohai marv.

Hassy was an active participant in D1, see above. He felt less active during other day. D1 there also required a bit more planning, as we pretty much had to decide how to play that game on D1, whereas D1 here is just "okay instant majority."

If I take the setup posts out, there's still meat there. Questioning foolishness, questioning darkfire, generally keeping track of things. It's absent here. Gotta admit though, I haven't played with hassy much, and don't think I've played with scum hassy. That's one reason I don't want to lynch based purely on differences between Parallel and here...that's not really a sample size of his play that I can trust.

I'd rather be able to judge his posts and his decisions. If there isn't anything in that bucket to go off of, I'd be down to lynch him tomorrow I guess, but this is just a blind lynch at this point.

On February 15 2013 04:58 randombum wrote:
Anyways, oats is looking worse in my eyes. Just read his filter, its all pointless questions and argumentative writing, and it's full of random "Let's join this wagon" vote switching.

Marv seems to be taking the easy way out and calling out a lurker. Do "vets" normally stay this quiet during day 1 so they don't stand too much for N1, or is he just coasting?

The rest of the lurkers are pretty annoying too.

On February 15 2013 06:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
I have it on good faith that he's just absent.

He does that sometimes, this silly willy.


That said I'm out for the night. Might miss deadline.

On February 15 2013 06:13 Stutters695 wrote:
God damnit, all Marv makes me think.of with all this gentlemen talk is THE GENTLEMEN from How I Met Your Mother.

On February 15 2013 06:16 randombum wrote:


No, I'm pretty sure out of all the lurkers there's bound to be at least mafia. Since have the people in the game are lurking. Would you like to re-word that question.

On February 15 2013 06:27 randombum wrote:
Your question was basically "is it good to catch mafia among lurkers". Of course the answer is yes, but the way you are going about couldn't really be called strong play. You basically chose one, said that's not like him, and nothing else.
Outside of your silly non-nessecary writing style your only contribution to the game was calling out a lurker. Something that anybody could do. For a supposedly great player you have not said anything about anybody else all game.

On February 15 2013 06:29 iamperfection wrote:

Maybe you should try harder then. I'm very easy to read

However u think your case makes it more likely that your town since scum no better than to come after me.

On February 15 2013 06:32 Keirathi wrote:

Well I'll share, because I think he has a very interesting playstyle.

Town iamp is quite capable of doing all those things you outlined. He says whatever pops in his head, randomly calls people our, and hardly ever is a major voice in getting someone lynched. He's a follower not a leader, but he does have unique viewpoints and opinions.

The major way to tell the difference between scum iamp and town iamp, though, is in his attitude. Town iamp just doesn't give a fuck. He will literally say anything that pops into his head, doesn't care how it makes him look. He doesn't apologize for it, or take things back, or hold his tongue. Scum iamp on the other hand is CAREFUL. Maybe that's not the best word for it, but I think it describes it perfectly. He tries not to make sure he pisses anyone off, he isn't as free and easy with his thoughts, and he's even less aggressive than normal.

Personally, I think ATM that he is kind of fitting into his scum persona atm. He just doesn't have that "I don't give a fuck" attitude in most of his posts. Im not sure I want to lynch him yet though, because there are hints of it, and I just want to see more before I come to a definite conclusion.

On February 15 2013 06:35 randombum wrote:
Marv, are you REQUIRED to post the way you are.

On February 15 2013 06:44 Stutters695 wrote:

To you sir, I pose this question: is Gonzaw not the most unseemly gentleman in this fine establishment? Does sir Hassybaby's poor analysis truly make him more likely to poison our scotch over Mr Gonzaw whose actions this fine day strongly resemble his criminal actions in LIX?
(Posting like this is kinda fun lol)

On February 15 2013 06:50 Crossfire99 wrote:
Stutters are you keeping your vote on Mr. CC? I agree that his disappearance is disturbing, but I don't know if we can convince enough people to get him lynched cause it's majority lynch.

Guys we really need to start narrowing this down because it is majority lynch. I don't wanna no lynch day 1 cause that's terrible and gives us nothing.

On February 15 2013 07:02 austinmcc wrote:
I must protest at your assumption that everyone is a "gentleman." Surely some of the folks here aren't.

You disagree with keirathi in terms of iamperfection's meta, it seems. But do you agree with some of the points that I raised? Do you find iamperfection to be a scummy scamp or a townie scamp?

On February 15 2013 07:03 Kurumi wrote:
I'm keeping my vote on Sylencia - he is thinking I will risk my life to confirm him as "town", never answered why he felt overwhelemed, actively lurked and still refuses to play. Also, he is the creator of my role and tried to convince me into a situation where I could die >_>

On February 15 2013 07:09 Blazinghand wrote:
i guess i'm not saying hassy or stutts lynch is bad per se but at least be aware that it would be a policy lynch >:|

On February 15 2013 07:11 austinmcc wrote:

Because kurumi makes it sound like sylencia's alignment can be determined based on what he's trying to get Kurumi to do with his role...

On February 15 2013 07:15 Blazinghand wrote:


I've read the arguments in favor of lynching hassy and I am simply not convinced. yes, he was active in Parallel mafia and weighed on on matters of policy, interacting with brodoosks like foolishness and so on, and this time he's been an inactive ass (filter) but that doesn't make him scum. It makes him an inactive ass. Vig him or pressure him after this lynch, but this is at BEST a meta lynch based entirely on activity level and not mindset, and at worst a policy lynch of a potentially useful player.

You're just wrong.

On February 15 2013 07:20 iamperfection wrote:
that is why i thought it was weird marv

On February 15 2013 07:23 iamperfection wrote:

you haven't figured out that i made your role?

On February 15 2013 07:28 iamperfection wrote:

well maybe i expect to much of you but i would have thought you would have figured it out here

On February 15 2013 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:


also you want a bad policy lynch

On February 15 2013 08:09 Keirathi wrote:

Lurking is literally the only reason you've given for wanting to lynch Hassy. So why Hassy, and not CC? Or Sylencia? Or Stutters? If lurking is scummy for one, then it should be scummy for all. Why are you picking him out of the crowd? Context says that if lurking is enough to condemn Hassy as scum, it should be enough to condemn them all.

On February 15 2013 08:16 Blazinghand wrote:
the issue here iamperfection is that many players in this game have found legit cases to make. I don't think the case on hassybaby is a legit meta case (like say my case on oats) because you're not addressing his mindset of his pattern of play as scum. you're just saying "look, he's posting less, he must be scum" and this is not a legitimate way to play. This is a policy lynch in a room filled with scummy players. We should be hunting scum, not policy lynching. Your refusal to actually read my case only further reinforces my suspicions that you are working against the town

On February 15 2013 09:18 iamperfection wrote:

guess you will have to go elsewhere

why you no care that much about lynch?

On February 15 2013 09:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Note: I'm out for a friend's birthday for the night.

I'll read all your bitching and whining about the role I created later.

On February 15 2013 09:35 austinmcc wrote:
I guess you can interpret that as "Maybe I thought it was possible BH was scum," but I feel like he'd just come out and say so if that were the case, instead of talking about himself in the third person?

On February 14 2013 05:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Also, I would like to point out that since Blazinhand challenged me and I voted him, and Dandelion picked up the assault on Oats, BH has all but fallen off the face of the planet.

On February 15 2013 09:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
Huh?

It sounds very very much like he did it.
Or was there anybody else who actually thought BH was scum? (or at least pretends to)

On February 15 2013 09:57 iamperfection wrote:

i dont particularity care what you want.

I know you have a burning desire to always win so either step up and stop the nonsense.
i gave you an amazing gift. but it could also be an undoing for this town.

either step up or i will gladly kill you myself.

On February 15 2013 10:03 iamperfection wrote:

if your not gonna try harder to help me lynch scum than it is very logical.

On February 15 2013 22:57 Dandel Ion wrote:

My point exactly.
You post next to nothing, so my pointers I gave towards it describe the post perfectly.

Maybe you should rethink your notion that I'd only ask about posts that fit your own little definition of "significance"

On February 15 2013 23:05 Dandel Ion wrote:

Unfortunately, I need to dance right now.

Directness, may be achieved after dancing. But only, only, if the dance is finished.

On February 15 2013 23:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:


I think his posting is a pain in the ass to read, (although I enjoy reading a nice Game of Thrones novel in the middle of a mafia game), but nothing so far has really raised any flags for me.

Why, what do YOU think of him? And dandelion, for that matter.

On February 15 2013 23:23 iamperfection wrote:

i stated before if he doesn't start pushing his agendas strongly he is scum.

dandelion has been giving town vibes all game.

-says he doesn't care but has been active anyways
-cared about the lynch
-etc

On February 15 2013 23:40 iamperfection wrote:

because it is bs

if you were town the burning desire to catch scum would shine through.

On February 15 2013 23:47 Dandel Ion wrote:

Perhaps you should stop mentioning it as if it somehow made you town this game cause it sure as hell doesn't.

On February 16 2013 00:24 iamperfection wrote:

i want jcarl to explain this from before

this post as i already pointed out if he thought bh was scum why was he trying to kill me.

On February 16 2013 01:21 austinmcc wrote:
marv, pretend kita and sylencia are trains.

kita leaves Dover at 150 km/h, staying at that speed. It trains on over to the chunnel, and trains through the chunnel, headed for Lyons.

sylencia leaves Lyons at 200 km/h, staying at that speed. It trains on over to the chunnel, through the chunnel, headed for Dover.

do they hit each other in france, the chunnel, or england?

On February 16 2013 02:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:


Early in the day, I was leaning scum on BH. Note that I placed my vote on him. As the day went on, these feelings dissipated slightly, enough so that I wasn't going to push the case (nor did I have the time to do so).

I switched my vote to iamperfection. It was coming time to consolidate votes (votes were scattered everywhere). At the time, iamperfection was the best candidate in my eyes. Everything looked fine, I left to go across campus to be with my friends.

I check the thread on my phone and notice that BH has started a panic switch onto oatsmaster. I have seen panic switches in the past, and often (in my experience) they are led by scum day 1 because town has no clue about anyone.

Ok, cool. I made oats' role, so I know that if he's lynched, BH will also go down. Since my previous feeling of BH were not gone, this wasn't the end of the world in my eyes.

Had I been actually at my computer when BH snowballed the panic switch, I may have reacted differently. However, I cannot change the RL circumstances.

Clearly I was wrong about BH, and for that I apologize.

On February 16 2013 02:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:
LOL wow that filter...

Yeah I could see sylencia being scum.

Also, what ever happened to cheesecake?

On February 16 2013 06:41 austinmcc wrote:
It's ridiculous to claim if it weren't true, so we can assume it is. But of course it doesn't mean that he's not actually responsible for anything that happens. Hopefully keeps everything from going wonky if people see him doing stuff though.

On February 16 2013 07:03 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv, does the fact that Hassy is being replaced change your read on him?

On February 16 2013 09:04 Hopeless1der wrote:

Kurumi
+ Show Spoiler +
---Kitaman24 has won Kurumi's wager---

On February 16 2013 09:15 iamperfection wrote:
Wait who did you target Marv

On February 16 2013 09:20 iamperfection wrote:

Unless he thought krumi was going to kill him.....

On February 16 2013 09:19 iamperfection wrote:

Was it worthwhile?

On February 16 2013 22:10 Vivax wrote:
Can someone link me the day and night posts so I can first read the mechanics before I read the players playing based on those?

On February 17 2013 00:19 Dandel Ion wrote:
I quite like my wisdom.
You seem to like it too. Unless of course, it were concerning you.

That you possess the arrogance to even think you may be elected after the play you displayed in this game should make you sad. At least as sad as it makes me.

On February 17 2013 00:55 iamperfection wrote:
Who is your top town read Marv

On February 17 2013 13:52 iamperfection wrote:
marvel baby you approve of this sylencia lynch?

On February 18 2013 01:58 Dandel Ion wrote:

Yes a lie was my first instinct indeed.

Happened to even me it has before.
Poison? More like poisson.

On February 18 2013 02:11 gonzaw wrote:

Right now I'm more willing to not save him, he hasn't done the shit I'd expect town iamp to do, and hasn't done shit basically.
He's not under pressure (like on D1) so I'd expect more activity and involvement from him, which hasn't happened, so I'll keep the poison on him for now.

On February 18 2013 04:49 Dandel Ion wrote:

That's like the role I made, only without downsides

So you have full knowledge of Syl's role or just parts?

On February 18 2013 04:54 Vivax wrote:
Dandel's filter is ridiculously empty and full at the same time and you know it marv. Most of it is random, trolly, jokey stuff.

I know you can do better than this when you're town marv, but you're not.

On February 18 2013 05:11 Dandel Ion wrote:
You refuse to answer me, so you're scum. that's all I need to know.

Also that is wrong, marv was also completely and utterly useless as town in MTG.
But at least he's not bad enough to think I'm mafia, which I can't say of everybody here.

On February 18 2013 21:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
Oh, don't stumble all over each other in attempts to solve the game.

On February 18 2013 21:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
The lynches for tomorrow - maybe, but there be two more than just two.

On February 19 2013 00:53 Vivax wrote:
Dandel, marv, carlson kita.

On February 20 2013 08:43 gonzaw wrote:
Also hey! First scum win in like a century for me!
It must mean this was the performance of the century for me! (.......yeah >_> ).

Also yeah, you guys should really read our IRC chat from the Syl lynch, it was hilarious.

On February 20 2013 09:45 Blazinghand wrote:


well there was also me!

On February 20 2013 09:51 Blazinghand wrote:


I'm not sure I'd have been able to catch crossfire very easily since he was 1-shot lynchproof. I may have mislynched stutters also since he was playing like turd (though I won't make this mistake in the future, seeing how he played this game). If Oats didn't have the hipster vengeful trait and we went into D2 at 7-4 with me alive instead of 6-4 it still wouldn't have been an easy game for town.