I think I even explicitly said I wouldn't pay much attention to the game in pre-game or something (I don't remember exactly what I posted), so I thought marv would have paid attention to it as well.
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I think I even explicitly said I wouldn't pay much attention to the game in pre-game or something (I don't remember exactly what I posted), so I thought marv would have paid attention to it as well. | ||
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Dude, if I was scum trying to "emulate" my town play you wouldn't be calling me scum now (e.g D1 LIX) On February 14 2013 10:09 Blazinghand wrote: And just so it's clear: it's not like there's been some big explosion in content between gonzaw being scummy and gonzaw being town-like. Like, if it was the first few posts in the game and everyone was derping around asking about policy or talking about tomorrow's lynch mechanic a few worthless posts would be forgivable but the time that passed between this post and this one like nothing happened in thread that would give him more info about this stuff, it's just people pressuing him and him realizing he's slipped up Gonzaw could have showed up and made this quasi-helpful post right away but he did not. And it wasn't dicking around at the start of the game, it was scum-motivated posting pushing scum objectives. his backpedaling to me only further indicates his scumminess I don't really see why this makes me scum. I skimmed the game, found those stuff interesting, then I went to play some PoE. When I came back, I decided to provide some more insightful stuff (even if there wasn't much I could post about). I did see I was getting some "pressure" from some guys (mainly you I guess). Trying to be more helpful could mitigate those suspicions so the whole day wouldn't revolve around me. I don't get why you just tag some posts as "scum-like" and other posts as "town-like" just like that. Gonzaw could have showed up and made this quasi-helpful post right away but he did not I didn't feel the need to post "quasi-helpful" stuff that early (I don't really get what exactly from my post is "quasi-helpful" though) because I felt it was kind of early and I wasn't paying much attention. I would have preferred more people chiming in before posting "lol I'm null on everybody" and that kind of unnecessary shit. On February 14 2013 10:09 randombum wrote: Just got back. I'm currently dis-liking oats and gonzow. Marv too. Oats. While I defended his original response to BH about his thoughts on mayor, he started to really clutter the thread asking pointless questions and getting really defensive/agitated. Sorta what some others have pointed out. Gonzow. He called me scum. Seriously though, his play has been lacking focus. He has self admitted that he mainly cared for the role creation part. That might be true, or a mafia excuse to lurk. There's also his reasoning "too neutral" what does that even mean? Is he referring to the part that marv also mentioned where I praise BH after spending a really long post calling him wrong? That's just being polite. It seemed you posted the BH thing just to blend in. You posted "safe" "neutral" stuff (or "agreeable" stuff I'd say), then didn't do much at all later. For instance, this stuff you posted now seems "neutral" as well. | ||
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On February 14 2013 10:58 randombum wrote: So no matter what I say your going to call it "neutral" and label me scum. Posts relatively long, but not too specific post agaisnt BH. Too neutral. Posts concise reads on two players that stood out to him. Too neutral. I don't like your reasoning at all. Either you are honestly think I'm scum, which would make you wrong, or you are purposely trying to interpret me in a negative light which only mafia would do. So that said ##vote gonzaw. I never said I was 100% sure you were scum. Those were the things that caught up from your posts, and out of everybody would make me want kill you the most. But with this OMGUS you are certainly getting there faster. Also by "neutral" I mean "agreeable" basically. 1-Post that Instant lynch is good 2-Say that BH is acting weird and his case is bad Now you go against me, which is what's "cool" at the moment apparently. Tell me, why exactly are you voting me for? Do you agree with what BH said? I didn't see you mention anything about it. You are OMGUSing, and hell you are even posting how I could be town yet conclude I'm scum with no other additional reason Either you are honestly think I'm scum, which would make you wrong... So tell me, why am I not a "townie that is wrong about you" ? You don't post any reasoning other than apparently some sarcasm with the "too neutral" shit up above. | ||
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On February 14 2013 11:40 randombum wrote: So basically. I don't think your scum, but I want to kill you? I'm not 100% certain, specially not at that point, but sure out of everybody in the game I wanted to kill you the most. I posted it not three posts before, are you even reading my filter? Or in the quote you are responding to. Are you purposely reading my posts the wrong way or are you just bad at this game? Either way its not a very good reason to keep you around. That first post of yours appeared to just be a comment of sorts. I don't see you calling me scum with that. It's certainly not enough justification for OMGUSing me in that second post. You just say "I don't like gonzaw" and post some wishy-washy stuff about me. Notice I never called you scum, I just think you are not contributing which can be bad town or scum. That's better than the null reads I have on almost anybody else. So...you don't think I'm scum? Seems hypocritical with this in mind: On February 14 2013 11:40 randombum wrote: So basically. I don't think your scum, but I want to kill you? I assume you said this with a negative tone (your whole post has a confrontational tone against me, thus no reason to assume this bit isn't). I assume this makes you "suspicious" against me or something. Yet you do exactly the same thing...? You basically don't think I'm scum, but you want to kill me. You sheep other people's opinions on stuff (on Oats, on me, etc), you OMGUS me with no reasoning at all, and your intentions are contradictory. You attack me like you think I'm scum, but then instantly backpedal into saying I'm just "not contributing so I don't want to keep you around", which is hypocritical with that "suspicion" you posted about me before. You attacking me makes no sense, and it seems you are just content on sheeping BH and parking your vote on me. Yeah, I'm fine lynching you today. ##Vote: randombum I haven't read other people yet though. | ||
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Although Duck 1 could have venomous acne, could pop his zits in Duck 2's face and let him die a slow death. | ||
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I wouldn't mind lynching Hassy/Sylencia/Cheesecake, but it's like a shot in the dark right now. I don't remember Xfire and jcralson contribute anything this past 24 hours either. Kei, you think Oats is scum? Personally he's not playing like in LIX, where he just antagonized every excerpt of authority and cussed against everybody. Him sheeping people like this is....well dumb, but unlike his previous scum play in my mind, which gives me a town gut feeling one him On February 15 2013 02:18 Keirathi wrote: I could possibly get behind gonzaw. At first I was against it, but I went back and read Aperture 2 compared to WLIIA. In Aperture, he was thinking about everyone, giving thoughts about everyone, hopping around all over the place. In WLIIA, he focused in on one person (me), and spent the entirety of his time alive talking about me and why I was scum, with very few references towards questioning or commenting on other people. Considering town Keirathi from WLIIA, this seems too "passive" from you. If you thought I was scum you wouldn't show hesitation to call me out, yet here you just post some stuff that to me even seems rehashed from other times I've played with you if I recall correctly, and don't even seem to have anything to do with this game (you just said how I played in both Aperture and in WLIIA and that's it, you make no conclusion at all) | ||
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On February 15 2013 04:31 randombum wrote: You know, I was seconds from actually saying I probably overreacted after sleeping on it, but now that just looks silly. Let me respond a bit and end it sense the two of us tunneling on each other is not beneficial. Hmm, fair enough. If you'll say you "overreacted" then I'm willing to hear who your other "targets" are, which you haven't yet (other than me) | ||
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On February 15 2013 04:49 austinmcc wrote: Wait, Gonzaw you think Keirathi has been too passive this game? Not the game per se (haven't thoroughly read his filter yet though), but with his stance on me. | ||
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On February 15 2013 04:54 randombum wrote: I'm just going to address your last paragraph since a lot of the top is reasonable. I did attack you when there wasn't much to base it on. Mainly, I just wanted to get something going since at the time there was nothing being discussed and I was bored. So a weak attack (which it is, my whole point is "you are reading me wrong, you are bad/scum") was what came to mind. But, needs to be addressed. How am I sheeping on other opinions when I'm the only one that attacked you in the way I did? Because other people have attacked you for other reasons? I'll admit I looked harder at you and oats because you two stuck out. ?? When BH made the "case" against me, you OMGUS me out of nowhere, that seemed sheeping to me. Your previous opinion on me wasn't "original" either, since Dandel and BH had basically posted what you said earlier. I don't see any backpedaling at all. In the same post where I voted you my reasoning was "Either you are honestly think I'm scum, which would make you wrong, or you are purposely trying to interpret me in a negative light which only mafia would do." then the post after it's " I just think you are not contributing which can be bad town or scum." Its consistent, perhaps bad, but consistent. The way you voted for me made it seem like you were convinced I was scum or some shit, there was no "oh I'll just kill you for being useless" tone in your posts. So would you still lynch me or not? More importantly, do you think I'm scum or not? I don't care if you want to "kill me just because" or something. On February 15 2013 05:01 Keirathi wrote: You were attacking me for being passive and not having definitive reads, just probing around. So, if I was doing that in that game, and doing it in this game, why am I actually scum this time? And also, I beg to differ that I didn't come to a conclusion. I said I would be up for lynching you, then gave an example of your town play and your scum play. Obviously if I thought you were town, I wouldn't want to lynch you. Therefore the obvious implication was that I think you have a good chance of being scum. Your "analysis" in your post was fluff, you just said how I acted in Aperture and how I acted in WLIIA, without forming any connection with this game at all. You think I'm acting like WLIIA? If so why didn't you post anything about it in that post? Why didn't you go deeper into it? Also I dunno if you are scum this time, that's what I want to find out. | ||
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I'm here now, skimmed the thread I guess I'd be okay with a randombumb lynch, but I'm not so sure about it right now, him backing off me after that "shitty" OMGUS seems kind of weird to do as scum. It won't be happening either way though. If we want a lynch today, then I'm willing to consolidate onto iamp/Hassy. I don't have strong scum/town feelings on either of them though. I'd prefer a Hassy lynch over iamp, iamp at least is here in the thread posting stuff, but Hassy hasn't done anything at all. Haven't really read that much into BH's Oats case but meh it's not convincing. | ||
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Even if Hassy is a coinflip at this point, I think it's a better lynch than Oats. I'm not that convinced about the stuff said about Oats | ||
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I'm not sure if there will be enough people on board to do so though | ||
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##Unvote: Hassy ##Vote: Oats | ||
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Does someone know how many exact votes he has? | ||
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Thank god this was a nightmare | ||
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